Buttonwillow Performance Driving Clinic

[OC3]

Originally Posted by karussell

Its hard to learn after years of driving in traffic looking at the back of other cars. This is what i do, maybe it will help you as well.

when you begin braking for a turn, look to the apex. don't turn-in early though.
when you begin turning in, look to the exit. don't track-out early though.
when you apex, look for the next turn-in point.

even when there are obstacles in your line of sight, still make a habit of looking through them and visualizing the apex.

specifics on buttonwillow.

lost hill - you MUST nail apex. the car's right tires will go right into a little dip at the crest just next to the berm. most importantly, do not lift the throttle mid-corner. the crest of the hill makes the rear of the car light since you are also turning and its off-camber.

off-ramp - the line you use is tighter and generally used for low hp cars like miatas or when guarding the corner exit in a race. with the power an M3 makes, its generally better to take a later turn-in, late apex and get on throttle much earlier. you will catch many cars this way, trust me. ;-)

Thanks again.

Re: later turn-in and late apex, that's something that's been on my mind for a while now & is on a to-do list on future track days.

[xchosun1x]

Originally Posted by karussell

Its hard to learn after years of driving in traffic looking at the back of other cars. This is what i do, maybe it will help you as well.

when you begin braking for a turn, look to the apex. don't turn-in early though.
when you begin turning in, look to the exit. don't track-out early though.
when you apex, look for the next turn-in point.

even when there are obstacles in your line of sight, still make a habit of looking through them and visualizing the apex.

specifics on buttonwillow.

lost hill - you MUST nail apex. the car's right tires will go right into a little dip at the crest just next to the berm. most importantly, do not lift the throttle mid-corner. the crest of the hill makes the rear of the car light since you are also turning and its off-camber.

off-ramp - the line you use is tighter and generally used for low hp cars like miatas or when guarding the corner exit in a race. with the power an M3 makes, its generally better to take a later turn-in, late apex and get on throttle much earlier. you will catch many cars this way, trust me. ;-)

great advice!

[persian54]

Originally Posted by OC3

Thanks again.

Re: later turn-in and late apex, that's something that's been on my mind for a while now & is on a to-do list on future track days.

yeah I started doing that a little yesterday

I rather late than early