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      12-11-2018, 02:34 PM   #1
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For Sale is my 2013 BMW M3. Asking 58k.
Car stock. Upgrades include factory navigation system/technology package. Aftermarket Carbon Fiber Front Splitter.
Mineral White Exterior. Red Interior.
Car has only 8,000 ORIGINAL miles on it and has barely been driven. ONLY DRIVEN IN STATE OF FLORIDA.
Garage kept all its life. Car is in mint condition.
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      12-11-2018, 04:08 PM   #2
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A lot of people will be wondering if it's 6MT or DCT?
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      12-11-2018, 08:20 PM   #3
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A lot more people are thinking "why didn't he post the last 7 of the VIN so we don't have to ask him the same question over and over?"

Or maybe its just me.
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      12-12-2018, 02:09 PM   #4
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I'm trying to understand the market on these cars. Is 58k fair market value for a 8k mile e92? I hope it is since I have a 6spd ZCP coupe with even fewer miles, but I didn't think I could get more than 50k for it. Does this particular color combo command a premium? Sorry to hijack the thread. Just trying to get a feel for where the market is.
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      12-12-2018, 02:37 PM   #5
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I'm trying to understand the market on these cars. Is 58k fair market value for a 8k mile e92? I hope it is since I have a 6spd ZCP coupe with even fewer miles, but I didn't think I could get more than 50k for it. Does this particular color combo command a premium? Sorry to hijack the thread. Just trying to get a feel for where the market is.
No, i doubt someone will pay 58k for a 13 e92 with barely any miles on it. I personally think that car is work 40-45k ish. Just my 2 cents. Regardless im sure the car is flawless. I found a 13 e92 m3 with 3800miles up for 42k not too long ago..
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      12-12-2018, 02:41 PM   #6
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Low mileage, clean examples will always command a premium to the right buyer.
But there is a way to market and sell them at a premium, this unfortunately has little chance of selling with the information provided.
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      12-12-2018, 02:57 PM   #7
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No, i doubt someone will pay 58k for a 13 e92 with barely any miles on it. I personally think that car is work 40-45k ish. Just my 2 cents. Regardless im sure the car is flawless. I found a 13 e92 m3 with 3800miles up for 42k not too long ago..
Was that a 6spd coupe? If so, I'm sure it was sold within a day. The most recent low mileage actual sales I know of were a 2012 AW with 11k that sold for $47k and a 2013 Space Gray with 7.5k miles that sold for $48k. Both sold within three days of being listed and within $1k of asking price.
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      12-12-2018, 03:17 PM   #8
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I'm trying to understand the market on these cars. Is 58k fair market value for a 8k mile e92? I hope it is since I have a 6spd ZCP coupe with even fewer miles, but I didn't think I could get more than 50k for it. Does this particular color combo command a premium? Sorry to hijack the thread. Just trying to get a feel for where the market is.
It can be difficult to value these very low mileage cars as they so rarely change hands.

The only sub-10k mileage car that I've seen shift recently was a 1500 mile ZCP car with DCT that sold on BAT in September for just over $45k. Seems low but it was Alpine White with beige interior so definitely not a highly sought-after spec.

Back in July 2017 there was a 19k mile LeMans Blue 6MT ZCP with black interior that went for almost $40k. Much more popular combo and I think whoever bought that got a great deal.

But then you look at EAG and their prices and... well, someone must be buying those or that business model wouldn't have lasted.

As Boof has noted, the thing about low mileage cars is that their value drops dramatically once their mileage creeps up, so the pool of buyers willing to pay high prices for them is likely limited to people who A) have other cars so this won't be their daily and B) have enough funds to not worry too much about it. In these cases, spec is hugely important.

For OP's car, mineral white and fox red is a popular spec, so I think he is right to ask for a premium. Whether someone is willing to pay almost $60k for it is another story.
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      12-12-2018, 06:19 PM   #9
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Correct me if I'm wrong but for $58,000, would you rather get a newer M3/M4?

I do understand these cars are NAs and people love the V8 and all that feel but how could you possibly live with spending that price for an older car when you could've got the newer model.

I'd be salty as hell if a F80 pulled up next to me and I'm in a E92, just my 2 cents. lol
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      12-12-2018, 06:25 PM   #10
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First of all, an e92 is better than an F80 any day of the week. I've driven both and I can say with 100% certainty that the e92 is a much, much more special car.

Anyway, we're in the mood to hijack dude's FS thread....

I'm sure this crew is probably aware of this, but go check out the Bring A Trailer e92 m3 model page to see the results of almost 30 e92 auctions representing all sorts of specs and mileage ranges.

While we could debate whether or not BaT is an accurate representation of the true market value of a car, at the very least it provides very good data when trying to size up how much one should pay for a specific example.

In my humble opinion, this seller's car is worth somewhere in the mid-to-high $40's depending on what's out there as a comparable option at this time. It could go for a little more to the right buyer, but $58,000? No way.
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      12-12-2018, 06:37 PM   #11
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Was that a 6spd coupe? If so, I'm sure it was sold within a day. The most recent low mileage actual sales I know of were a 2012 AW with 11k that sold for $47k and a 2013 Space Gray with 7.5k miles that sold for $48k. Both sold within three days of being listed and within $1k of asking price.
It was sold rather quick, however i do not recall whether it was a 6spd or dct. It sold fast. Im sure his car can get 45k-50k but like other people said it all depends on the specs the car has... Beige interior is a no no for most people. At the end of the day im sure its a beautiful car, just depends on how fast the seller wants to sell it. My personal opinion i just do not see it at $58k. Good luck regardless, hope you all but the best!
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      12-12-2018, 10:09 PM   #12
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No responses from the OP. A history search shows he joined up, made three brief responses in other threads in the span of two minutes, and then posted this car for sale.

I'm not attacking the guy, but that raises red flags on any forum. Also, claiming the pic posting does work and asking us to contact him via Gmail? Another red flag.

My advice to the OP if he's reading: do a proper sale thread including the VIN and some pics. . If you're really having trouble posting pics, then use that awesome Google account to host pics and then link to them here. Bonus gold stars if you put a piece of paper in the pics with your M3Post screen name plus the date so we know you aren't bogarting someone else's pics.

Also, price is too high. But you'll find that one out on your own I'm sure.
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      12-13-2018, 08:08 AM   #13
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Correct me if I'm wrong but for $58,000, would you rather get a newer M3/M4?

I do understand these cars are NAs and people love the V8 and all that feel but how could you possibly live with spending that price for an older car when you could've got the newer model.

I'd be salty as hell if a F80 pulled up next to me and I'm in a E92, just my 2 cents. lol
I went to test drive the new M4, expecting to buy it and love it. I was actually cross shopping it with a 911 so cost was not an issue. I walked away from the test drive completely disappointed. Sure, the car had abundant power but it was non-linear and the chassis/steering felt so disconnected. It had lost everything I loved about my previous e36 and e46.
I then went and drove a used e92 and fell in love all over again. Winding out that v8 past 8k RPMs is a feeling which can't be replicated by any other car short of Italian exotics.
The fact that a generation is younger or older means nothing to me. The cost also means very little, although "value" means a lot. I thought I was getting much more from an e92 than from the f80 so I chose the former. I think most people who are into driving, as opposed to comparing stats, will agree that the e92 and e46 generations offer much more satisfaction and value than the current f80.
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      12-13-2018, 08:14 AM   #14
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I went to test drive the new M4, expecting to buy it and love it. I was actually cross shopping it with a 911 so cost was not an issue. I walked away from the test drive completely disappointed. Sure, the car had abundant power but it was non-linear and the chassis/steering felt so disconnected. It had lost everything I loved about my previous e36 and e46.
I then went and drove a used e92 and fell in love all over again. Winding out that v8 past 8k RPMs is a feeling which can't be replicated by any other car short of Italian exotics.
The fact that a generation is younger or older means nothing to me. The cost also means very little, although "value" means a lot. I thought I was getting much more from an e92 than from the f80 so I chose the former. I think most people who are into driving, as opposed to comparing stats, will agree that the e92 and e46 generations offer much more satisfaction and value than the current f80.
Having the luxury of owning the E46 M and E92 M I couldn’t agree more. You pretty much nailed it on the head. And the exhaust note on the M4.
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      12-13-2018, 09:15 AM   #15
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I went to test drive the new M4, expecting to buy it and love it. I was actually cross shopping it with a 911 so cost was not an issue. I walked away from the test drive completely disappointed. Sure, the car had abundant power but it was non-linear and the chassis/steering felt so disconnected. It had lost everything I loved about my previous e36 and e46.
I then went and drove a used e92 and fell in love all over again. Winding out that v8 past 8k RPMs is a feeling which can't be replicated by any other car short of Italian exotics.
The fact that a generation is younger or older means nothing to me. The cost also means very little, although "value" means a lot. I thought I was getting much more from an e92 than from the f80 so I chose the former. I think most people who are into driving, as opposed to comparing stats, will agree that the e92 and e46 generations offer much more satisfaction and value than the current f80.
How ironic as I felt the same way after getting into a F80. The excitement when I purchased my E92 M3 is not the same. I do however like the exterior and the new tech on the F platform. I absolutely hate the cold start ups. I will probably be back in a E90 in the future.
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      12-13-2018, 09:57 AM   #16
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How ironic as I felt the same way after getting into a F80. The excitement when I purchased my E92 M3 is not the same. I do however like the exterior and the new tech on the F platform. I absolutely hate the cold start ups. I will probably be back in a E90 in the future.
I understand why people like the tech, especially on daily drivers, but do we really need more than the ability to connect phones over BT, sync or upload our music and have a decent NAV (all already available in the older generation)? I personally find every additional bit of tech to be a distraction from driving and what's worse, when the cars get older the tech inside them gets outdated and becomes obsolete anyways. Again, these are personal preferences and vary based on intended use and frequency of car replacement. If you want the newest car every 3 years then by all means get all the tech you want. But if you like to keep your cars for longer, the tech starts to become a liability instead of an asset.

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      12-13-2018, 10:28 AM   #17
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I understand why people like the tech, especially on daily drivers, but do we really need more than the ability to connect phones over BT, sync or upload our music and have a decent NAV (all already available in the older generation)? I personally find every additional bit of tech to be a distraction from driving and what's worse, when the cars get older the tech inside them gets outdated and becomes obsolete anyways. Again, these are personal preferences and vary based on intended use and frequency of car replacement. If you want the newest car every 3 years then by all means get all the tech you want. But if you like to keep your cars for longer, the tech stats to become a liability instead of an asset.
I find the heads up display and the heated steering to be very good. Oil level reading seems a lot better too. I don't care about the other creature comforts.
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I find the heads up display and the heated steering to be very good. Oil level reading seems a lot better too. I don't care about the other creature comforts.
Ahh, I do miss the heated steering wheel. But I don't consider that new tech. My 2004 545 had it. My e92 doesnt

Sorry to the OP,
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Ahh, I do miss the heated steering wheel. But I don't consider that new tech. My 2004 545 had it. My e92 doesnt

Sorry to the OP,
I doubt he noticed.

Bets on whether he'll ever show up again? I'm figuring he'll be due back in about a week, just to tell us his work schedule is extremely busy and he rarely has time to check in here so thats why we need to email him and pics still aren't working.
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E92>F80

Hahahahahaha.... Me too. Bought a brand new M4 sight unseen... after owning several M cars, figured why not..... Before she left the lot, I hated the car.... Well 25k miles later, 25 months later, I was able to use the CA Lemon Law on her for reasons I do not wish to get into, it was part of my settlement; however, BMW owned up for their shit, and if you think I am wrong, well then E92 prices are higher than F80 prices for the right specs already.... I'll leave it to your imagination..... Anyways I am now two E9Xs deep and would add another, as these cars are last best made BMWs ever, ever ever... If it is too slow for you, stroker it, done..... Nothing will ever be better than the epic build of that car, and the style just gets better and better with each passing year, a masterpiece IMO...




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I went to test drive the new M4, expecting to buy it and love it. I was actually cross shopping it with a 911 so cost was not an issue. I walked away from the test drive completely disappointed. Sure, the car had abundant power but it was non-linear and the chassis/steering felt so disconnected. It had lost everything I loved about my previous e36 and e46.
I then went and drove a used e92 and fell in love all over again. Winding out that v8 past 8k RPMs is a feeling which can't be replicated by any other car short of Italian exotics.
The fact that a generation is younger or older means nothing to me. The cost also means very little, although "value" means a lot. I thought I was getting much more from an e92 than from the f80 so I chose the former. I think most people who are into driving, as opposed to comparing stats, will agree that the e92 and e46 generations offer much more satisfaction and value than the current f80.
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Interested to see how this plays out....
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      12-14-2018, 10:24 AM   #22
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Hello Everyone,

I apologize about the delayed response, but as someone mentioned above, I am busy working. Below I have attached photos as requested.

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The price is negotiable and the best way to contact me would be via e-mail. I'll check here occasionally for PM's as well. If additional photos are requested, it will be about 2 weeks delay because I reside in NY and the car resides at my house in FL (I'll be in FL in a couple of weeks).

Thank you for your interest.
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