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[lauz]

In the 9 and 10 x 19 with 18 and 25 offset. Looking to see car pictures of the car with 255 Front and 275 and 295 Rear. Non competition car.

295 rubbing ?

[B8bydesign]

Can't help with tire sizing, but why not go with the better fitting 19x10/11 +25 setup they offer?

Also, check this thread: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1898355

[drwankel]

Plenty of documented cases of a 255 front rubbing on the AG m359 19x9. The AG M359 9" wheels have a different offset than the factory ZCP wheels. 255/35/19 seems to be fine on the factory ZCP wheels, but not on the AG M359s. You will need to stay with a 245/35/19 on the AG M359s if you chose to run them.

Lastly- you must also consider what tire brand and model you intend to run rather than just looking at sizing. Tire A is not the same size as tire B despite the same tire "size"

[UBERV8]

Originally Posted by drwankel

Plenty of documented cases of a 255 front rubbing on the AG m359 19x9. The AG M359 9" wheels have a different offset than the factory ZCP wheels. 255/35/19 seems to be fine on the factory ZCP wheels, but not on the AG M359s. You will need to stay with a 245/35/19 on the AG M359s if you chose to run them.

Lastly- you must also consider what tire brand and model you intend to run rather than just looking at sizing. Tire A is not the same size as tire B despite the same tire "size"

WRONG. I had 255/35/19 Michelin PS4S (which are known to run wider than most) on AG 359 with zero rubbing and plenty of room.

OEM 359's front wheel offset is +32
AG 359's front wheel offset is +18

One of the most common upsizing options on OEM 359's is to add 15mm spacers on 255/35 making an effective +17 offset to run flush, some have even done 18mm with no rubbing.

I've run many different OEM and AG staggered and squared sizes so I'm speaking from experience.

[UBERV8]

Originally Posted by lauz

In the 9 and 10 x 19 with 18 and 25 offset. Looking to see car pictures of the car with 255 Front and 275 and 295 Rear. Non competition car.

295 rubbing ?

Lauz, here's my AG 359 on Michelin PS4S 255/35 and 275/35. No spacer in front and a 12mm rear Non ZCP suspension and factory camber.

I have done 295/30 PS4S on the rear 10" 359 and I had slight rubbing lowered on KW HAS. However, that was with a E92, now with E90 may have more room since the rear is 1/2" wider

[CamasM3e93]

Not a great profile for your need but these are 295 30's on 19" ZCPs, on the rear. Michelin PS4s. no rubbing. sticks out a touch from the wheel well which looks kind of badass IMO.

[lauz]

Did bought AG 9 and 10 in the 255-35 and 275-35-19 ps4s and surprised yesterday as at the right, when turning. The tire rubs against the wheels arch because of that on the right side (wwiper fluid system) ? Its a 2011 m3 4 doors as the pictures. At the left, very slightly rubbing but acceptable. What should i do ? Change front to 245-35 ? Not sure the 6-7 mm will be ok.

D9nt understand how some of you say it fits…

[nycplumber]

@lauz on this forum fitting and rubbing are to different things entirely lol. Does it rub? Yes. Does it fit? Also yes. It's definitely the most popular tire size and also used on the M3 gts. Point being that is doesn't cause any issues so no need for tire change.

[drwankel]

Originally Posted by nycplumber

@lauz on this forum fitting and rubbing are to different things entirely lol. Does it rub? Yes. Does it fit? Also yes. It's definitely the most popular tire size and also used on the M3 gts. Point being that is doesn't cause any issues so no need for tire change.

The GTS never shipped with PSS or PS4S tires, which have wider shoulders than the Pilot Sport Cup 2, and other brands of tires. There is simply no way BMW would have sold a car that rubs the fender liners from the factory.

The other thing I have been wondering- are the fender liners the same on the GTS? Considering it was never sold in North America, and I am not aware of anybody on the forum who actually has one, this would be difficult to confirm. There are other bespoke parts for the GTS, so this doesn't seem outside the realm of possibility.

It seems reasonable that there could have been a different liner here to accommodate the wider fronts with OEM desired levels of clearance.

[nycplumber]

Everything I looked on whether USA or UK the part #s came back the same. M3 gts vin# used WBSKG91090E568170 & WBSKG9204BE697581. As far as bmw not selling a car with tires rubbing I would point to Porsche and how both generations of GT3RS rub at full lock. Manufacturers have different expectations for cars like that I believe

[MAE90M3]

I have the AG 359 and am running 255/35/19 front and 275/35/19 rear on PS4S. I recently installed Ohlins R&T coilovers and followed the manufacturer recommendation of 10 mm drop (same height as stock ZCP). At full lock (maybe even sooner) I am getting some rubbing on the fronts. Would 12 mm spacers solve the rubbing?

[drwankel]

Originally Posted by MAE90M3

I have the AG 359 and am running 255/35/19 front and 275/35/19 rear on PS4S. I recently installed Ohlins R&T coilovers and followed the manufacturer recommendation of 10 mm drop (same height as stock ZCP). At full lock (maybe even sooner) I am getting some rubbing on the fronts. Would 12 mm spacers solve the rubbing?

If anything, I would suspect that spacers would make it worse. Picture where the tire is sitting when its at the rub spot. Is pushing the tire further out going to fix it? I would suspect that would just push it deeper into the fender liner.

[MAE90M3]

Originally Posted by drwankel

If anything, I would suspect that spacers would make it worse. Picture where the tire is sitting when its at the rub spot. Is pushing the tire further out going to fix it? I would suspect that would just push it deeper into the fender liner.

I figured that would be the response. Oh well. For now, I am going to stick with this setup.

[MAE90M3]

Just to confirm, if I were to buy OEM 359M rims, I could still run 255/35/19 in front and not get the rubbing like the AG rims (even with the Ohlins lowered to the ZCP height)? What if I only buy the OEM fronts since the rears are the same?

[drwankel]

Originally Posted by MAE90M3

Just to confirm, if I were to buy OEM 359M rims, I could still run 255/35/19 in front and not get the rubbing like the AG rims (even with the Ohlins lowered to the ZCP height)? What if I only buy the OEM fronts since the rears are the same?

The OEM and AG wheels will be a slightly different color. Get AG or OEM for the whole set, don't mix and match.

Regarding the tire size on OEM, Yes no rub 255/35/19, depending on the tire brand and model. Seen a few people report PS4S rubbing in that size.

[vitalsigns]

Originally Posted by MAE90M3

Just to confirm, if I were to buy OEM 359M rims, I could still run 255/35/19 in front and not get the rubbing like the AG rims (even with the Ohlins lowered to the ZCP height)? What if I only buy the OEM fronts since the rears are the same?

No rub on my E90 with OEM 359M rims and 255/35/19 tires, lowered on Ohlins (lower than ZCP) and 12 mm spacers.