Import fees help

Leglessracing · 07-31-2016, 07:32 PM

hi guys,
I'm trying to find some info out and not a lot of people can help me.
I need to ship some stuff to the USA at a large value (£25,000)
I've been told that in some states that import fees will need to be paid
Does anything know if there is anywhere that does not pay import fees on large values?

Leglessracing · 07-31-2016, 07:32 PM

Oh and the shipment will be on a commercial invoice too

EALm4 · 07-31-2016, 07:51 PM

You should contact Mickey Munday. He'll get you squared away.

Leglessracing · 07-31-2016, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by EALm4

You should contact Mickey Munday. He'll get you squared away.

Do you have a user name for him?

Sara · 07-31-2016, 08:25 PM

Just say it's bank documents

08njSTEP · 07-31-2016, 08:51 PM

Where is the end destination. US is big. East coast, south, west coast, etc. New Hampshire doesn't really tax anything, Pennsylvania is similar. I'm sure there are a lot of states that are the same.

Leglessracing · 08-01-2016, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 08njSTEP

Where is the end destination. US is big. East coast, south, west coast, etc. New Hampshire doesn't really tax anything, Pennsylvania is similar. I'm sure there are a lot of states that are the same.

There isn't a end destination at the moment, trying to work around things to see how I can save on import fees! Got to find a way of getting it to the USA at minimal costs

jtodd_fl · 08-01-2016, 07:10 AM

Also, what is it? For example, while I would NEVER do this, sometimes with a watch, people simply fly and get them and wear them home, as it is cheaper than paying the import duties and taxes. Of course, that would be illegal and (for whomever would do such a thing) risky. The Swiss airport people sort of know what they are looking for. In other words, if you are wearing a watch, best to check the bag with the box and papers in them. I assure you, they know what a nice watch box looks like on backscatter or Xray! Heh.

sarcastrix · 08-01-2016, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jtodd_fl

The Swiss airport people sort of know what they are looking for. In other words, if you are wearing a watch, best to check the bag with the box and papers in them. I assure you, they know what a nice watch box looks like on backscatter or Xray! Heh.

Allegedly no one would consider shipping the watch or camera packaging separately to avoid detection

RJ_ · 08-01-2016, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jtodd_fl

Also, what is it? For example, while I would NEVER do this, sometimes with a watch, people simply fly and get them and wear them home, as it is cheaper than paying the import duties and taxes. Of course, that would be illegal and (for whomever would do such a thing) risky. The Swiss airport people sort of know what they are looking for. In other words, if you are wearing a watch, best to check the bag with the box and papers in them. I assure you, they know what a nice watch box looks like on backscatter or Xray! Heh.

That's wild. The fact that someone who can afford to buy a watch so expensive that the taxes are significant enough to risk cheating customs would actually attempt it makes no sense.

Leglessracing · 08-01-2016, 09:31 AM

It's car electronic, loom, ecu etc. So nothing easy to transport about like a watch

Biorin · 08-02-2016, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RJ_

Quote:

Originally Posted by jtodd_fl

Also, what is it? For example, while I would NEVER do this, sometimes with a watch, people simply fly and get them and wear them home, as it is cheaper than paying the import duties and taxes. Of course, that would be illegal and (for whomever would do such a thing) risky. The Swiss airport people sort of know what they are looking for. In other words, if you are wearing a watch, best to check the bag with the box and papers in them. I assure you, they know what a nice watch box looks like on backscatter or Xray! Heh.

That's wild. The fact that someone who can afford to buy a watch so expensive that the taxes are significant enough to risk cheating customs would actually attempt it makes no sense.

Sometimes it's a matter of principle... Or just values.

Lucky John · 08-03-2016, 02:45 AM

This is specific with few loopholes. Last time I imported a large amount of car parts it was 2.5% import duties payable to US Customs. That is straight forward but then there are ways to game the system. Were the parts made in a NAFTA zone and therefore not subject to duty? IS it parts or a whole car? Do any of them have anything to do with a truck? (by the way the answer to this is no.) Last time I imported a Land Rover as a truck, I got the 25% tariff tax rate. It was a 65 series 2a 109 with the pu cab and a canvas bed cover. I drove up to the Sumas/Langley crossing and didn't know any better.

The only state I know of where you can avoid US Customs is Arkansas. No international airport or seaports. You used to be able to drive grey market cars there that had not been through customs and get a US title without paying any duty on the car. Then since it was "inside" the US when you went to title the car no one asked for the customs paperwork. Last I heard they closed this loophole.

The problems with importing stuff to the US is all the paperwork and headaches. I imported a sauna once. I think I paid 10% duty. But fuck me, I dropped a thousand on other stuff like, a fumigation certification, overnight deliveries to/from Customs, a US Agent to post the bond, insurance, someone to receive it at the port of entry and hold it in a bonded warehouse. I would never do that again.

Twenty five grand in car parts, I'd just pay them their 2.5%, but check first and figure out what the going rate is. It is all at the US Customs website.

With that much in car parts I would think where they are landing in the US would be more important than the customs duty.

Good luck, John

tdott · 08-03-2016, 07:23 AM

Be aware that sea shipments are subject to a bunch of crap.

For example I looked into importing some heavy equipment worth only about $1200 and they estimated over $500 in fees/customs/duty/etc.

MPF: $9.00 Informal Entries
HMF: $1.45
Single Entry Bond Min: $100
Customs Clearance: $150
ISF Fee: $100
Doc and Handling Fee: $35.00
Port Messenger Fee: $35.00
ABI transaction fee: $15.00

Plus this does not include any fees for warehousing/loading/unloading or shipping it to your destination, this was pickup at seaport.

The ISF needs to be submitted before the shipment is loaded on to the ship and you can't do this yourself. You need a bunch of ship documents, Country of Origin, Packing Slip, Bill of Landing, etc.

Granted a lot of those fees apply but probably won't go up much more other than the percentage based ones, so for a larger shipment it might be worth it.

Dackelone · 08-03-2016, 08:17 AM

Why not just inquire with US Customs ?

https://www.cbp.gov/trade/basic-import-export

Or maybe contact a broker who handles these types of importations. ???

Joekerr · 08-03-2016, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Dackelone

Why not just inquire with US Customs ?

https://www.cbp.gov/trade/basic-import-export

Or maybe contact a broker who handles these types of importations. ???

Since he is trying to avoid paying customs, I doubt speaking with the US Customs will be overly helpful. I can just see how that conversation works...

OP: "Hi there, I'd like to import something of significant value, but don't wish to pay customs on it. Could you tell me how to do this?"

US Customs agent: "Oh, absolutely - and your name again was?"

OP: "

"

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Lucky John Out to Lunch 616 Rep 19 Posts Drives: 1965 Land Rover Series 2A Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Custer, WA iTrader: (0)	This is specific with few loopholes. Last time I imported a large amount of car parts it was 2.5% import duties payable to US Customs. That is straight forward but then there are ways to game the system. Were the parts made in a NAFTA zone and therefore not subject to duty? IS it parts or a whole car? Do any of them have anything to do with a truck? (by the way the answer to this is no.) Last time I imported a Land Rover as a truck, I got the 25% tariff tax rate. It was a 65 series 2a 109 with the pu cab and a canvas bed cover. I drove up to the Sumas/Langley crossing and didn't know any better. The only state I know of where you can avoid US Customs is Arkansas. No international airport or seaports. You used to be able to drive grey market cars there that had not been through customs and get a US title without paying any duty on the car. Then since it was "inside" the US when you went to title the car no one asked for the customs paperwork. Last I heard they closed this loophole. The problems with importing stuff to the US is all the paperwork and headaches. I imported a sauna once. I think I paid 10% duty. But fuck me, I dropped a thousand on other stuff like, a fumigation certification, overnight deliveries to/from Customs, a US Agent to post the bond, insurance, someone to receive it at the port of entry and hold it in a bonded warehouse. I would never do that again. Twenty five grand in car parts, I'd just pay them their 2.5%, but check first and figure out what the going rate is. It is all at the US Customs website. With that much in car parts I would think where they are landing in the US would be more important than the customs duty. Good luck, John
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