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      10-11-2019, 10:41 AM   #10517
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The 5.7 GC is awesome. You can add the SRT oil cooler if it doesn’t come with one (the older 5.7s didn’t, not sure about the new ones.) It’s only needed if you’re towing quite a bit and especially in the hills. It’s an easy retrofit.
i've found that any of the 5.7 cherokees with the class 4 tow package has the extra trans and oil coolers. its all i'm looking at since retrofitting would be upwards of $1k even if i did it myself. they are easy enough to find.

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GC is nice man, glad that suggestion looks like it's going to work out for you. Stereo kicks a$$ too.

What trim level, I don't think the Hemi comes in anything less than the Limited? That's what my EcoDiesel is.
its all over the place... some years the "lower" trims were able to check the 5.7 hemi box for a couple grand more. i think the "limited" is where it starts.

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Loved my GC with 5.7L Hemi; very reliable truck and a nice compliment to the M3.
it has a ton more power than i thought it would have. much more stout than the cayenne gts we drove. the eight speed transmission makes for a really nice towing (i would imagine) with the take off and overdrive. i liked how it feels very upright like a truck should. very feathery throttle. mrs beef got in it and immediately chirped the tires... she's used to a little lag from her diesel.
the particular trim we are looking at is the "trailhawk." we don't need a second offroad rig, but if we happen to make a trip out to arizona or norcal and i don't have my crawler, i can still do a little exploring. however, i'm not going to go overboard with modding this thing for offroading... thats not why we're getting it. it really does seem like a good all around vehicle that checks all the boxes for our current situation.

the only thing i "have to" do is put a flowmaster exhaust on it for the music. and maybe an intake. and mild cosmetics.
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Hey guys! Figured I'd post here instead of started a new thread cause its probably been covered, anyways looks like next week is my last chance to try a track day this year. I was wondering of any tips before I head out?

I've never done a track day so not sure I'm capable of boiling the brake fluid or melting pads, though whats the minimum amount of pad I should have front and back? Tires are PSS with under 3k on them, hoping to not trash them though if I love it they'll go away with the wheels to be replaced with a square setup!

https://www.tracknightinamerica.com/...eka-october-17
Just to add to what others have already said..

Eyes up, keep looking ahead. Don't worry about your mirrors, let your instructor manage that. If you can, put the car in one gear and use it for the whole track. It's a great way to focus on your driving, so you're not constantly shifting. Lastly, just have fun.
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      10-11-2019, 11:35 AM   #10519
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Hey guys! Figured I'd post here instead of started a new thread cause its probably been covered, anyways looks like next week is my last chance to try a track day this year. I was wondering of any tips before I head out?

I've never done a track day so not sure I'm capable of boiling the brake fluid or melting pads, though whats the minimum amount of pad I should have front and back? Tires are PSS with under 3k on them, hoping to not trash them though if I love it they'll go away with the wheels to be replaced with a square setup!

https://www.tracknightinamerica.com/events/1993777-track-night-2019-topeka-october-17
Just to add to what others have already said..

Eyes up, keep looking ahead. Don't worry about your mirrors, let your instructor manage that. If you can, put the car in one gear and use it for the whole track. It's a great way to focus on your driving, so you're not constantly shifting. Lastly, just have fun.
Does TNIA provide instructors?
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I've never driven with them, so I can't say.

If they don't, that's a terrible way to get started.
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I've never driven with them, so I can't say.

If they don't, that's a terrible way to get started.
Just looked at FAQ...no in car instructors
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Hey guys! Figured I'd post here instead of started a new thread cause its probably been covered, anyways looks like next week is my last chance to try a track day this year. I was wondering of any tips before I head out?

I've never done a track day so not sure I'm capable of boiling the brake fluid or melting pads, though whats the minimum amount of pad I should have front and back? Tires are PSS with under 3k on them, hoping to not trash them though if I love it they'll go away with the wheels to be replaced with a square setup!

https://www.tracknightinamerica.com/...eka-october-17
don't set the parking brake when you come back in, and always take a cool down lap.
don't torque hot lugs.
put a sock over the power steering reservoir.
bring a roll of paper towels and maybe some gloves.
stay off the berms with those adv.1's.
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Easy to forget, but make sure you get your driving position nicely setup and where it feels comfortable. Front of seat tilted all the way up to stop you sliding forward under braking, seat back upright, nice bend in your arms when you touch the top of the steering wheel. Keep your body relaxed, mind sharp. Good luck sir, you will love it!

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Hey guys! Figured I'd post here instead of started a new thread cause its probably been covered, anyways looks like next week is my last chance to try a track day this year. I was wondering of any tips before I head out?

I've never done a track day so not sure I'm capable of boiling the brake fluid or melting pads, though whats the minimum amount of pad I should have front and back? Tires are PSS with under 3k on them, hoping to not trash them though if I love it they'll go away with the wheels to be replaced with a square setup!

https://www.tracknightinamerica.com/...eka-october-17
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don't set the parking brake when you come back in, and always take a cool down lap.
don't torque hot lugs.
put a sock over the power steering reservoir.
bring a roll of paper towels and maybe some gloves.
stay off the berms with those adv.1's.
Someone explain this to me. What happens specifically to cars like ours with springs and brake shoes?
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Someone explain this to me. What happens specifically to cars like ours with springs and brake shoes?
the parking brake is just a small drum brake inside of the hat of the rear rotors. when you pull the parking brake, the pads simply spread to press against the inside of the drum. you're basically putting force on a hot brake component and as it cools, you run the risk of it distorting.
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      10-11-2019, 11:29 PM   #10526
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Just looked at FAQ...no in car instructors
Shit, I didn't even realize he linked to TNIA. Or I would of mentioned staying away from them in my original post.

Hope he comes back with a recap. TNIA here is an epic clusterfuck of bad and dangerous driving.
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      10-12-2019, 02:37 AM   #10527
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Just looked at FAQ...no in car instructors
Shit, I didn't even realize he linked to TNIA. Or I would of mentioned staying away from them in my original post.

Hope he comes back with a recap. TNIA here is an epic clusterfuck of bad and dangerous driving.
Depends on the region I believe. Some have instructors. I've instructed at a TNIA.
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The truck might be coming sooner than we thought. Lol
Mrs beef has no tolerance for car drama. Just finished some injector work at the dealer. Car went into limp mode on the freeway and smells like diesel fuel.
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Loud exhaust on a tow vehicle is a young manís game. It will drone and you will eventually hate it.
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Loud exhaust on a tow vehicle is a young man’s game. It will drone and you will eventually hate it.
I'm going to keep her car civilized and tasteful.
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The deed is done.
Tonightís incident was the last straw huh? Congrats!
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Tonightís incident was the last straw huh? Congrats!
thanks.

so i'm sleeping in while mrs beef has plans to do a 5k with one of the dogs. i get a call at 6am saying the car is broken, smells like diesel fuel, and shes on the side of the freeway. so i get up, deliver the m3 to her so she can continue on and i wait for the tow truck. the diesel is at the dealer and i'm thinking/hoping its the same thing it was in there for so its a warranty fix... the D will be coming back home and we'll then have five cars between the two of us. i'm going to spend some time cleaning up the 335d for her next home though and its adios.

we've been wanting something bigger and this rig just fits. we already ordered a cargo cover for the dogs and searching for a ramp for the fat dog. i'll also keep an eye out for trailers.
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Useful gauges in the new truck. Now if only we can get these in our cars. Lol
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Last pic for a minute... It got too hot to wash, so it's dirty.
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Last pic for a minute... It got too hot to wash, so it's dirty.
Alright, after two pages we're gonna need to see some on track photos of the track hawk. Better photo chop us up something quick.
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Are those really more reliable than a BMW X5D? I've heard many horror stories about the Grand Cherokees.
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Shit, I didn't even realize he linked to TNIA. Or I would of mentioned staying away from them in my original post.

Hope he comes back with a recap. TNIA here is an epic clusterfuck of bad and dangerous driving.
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Depends on the region I believe. Some have instructors. I've instructed at a TNIA.
I partially agree with Chris_PDX.

I believe the problem with TNIA is at the middle level - experienced/intermediate

Anyone can sign up for a TNIA event and say they are experienced/intermediate. (or Expert fo that matter) You have a bunch of people who think they can drive better than they can, which adds a lot of danger.

I personally am at the experienced/intermediate level, I am not worthy to claim expert, but I have personally dropped down to Novice level at a TNIA event and just lined up with in the first three cars and did not have any problem with waiting for point bys until lapping the back end of the train.

I would rather wait for point bys than deal with people almost hitting me at an intermediate level where they should not be anywhere near my car unless my arm is pointing out my window. Ask me how I know.
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