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08-19-2016, 01:03 PM | #1 |
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I tried this post on my regional Canadian forum and didn't get any responses. Maybe the general forum will have some opinions.
My 2012 M3 just came off of warranty and I'm gearing up for doing maintenance and repairs myself. Most of the threads I've found are somewhat dated. Does any one have opinions and knowledge about any available repair manuals and/or diagnostic software. So far my searching has found a Chilton online manual service but it's only available in the States. With respect to diagnostics, I've found Autoenginuity, Bavarian Technic and BMWHAT. Any information or opinions would be much appreciated. Thanks. baba louey |
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Hey Baba, quite a few of us are using "Carly for BMW" (former BMWhat) these days. Believe this is one of the best tools for diagnostic at least for the money it cost. You can do a pile of stuff in addition such ad coding, engine parameter resd out etc.
Lots of info to search on the forum on this app. Cheers |
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BMW Carly is only for coding features and the diagnostics are for kids. Buy yourself WinKFP, INPA, NCSExpert, Esys or something that uses a KD-can or Icom device. There is nothing you can't do with an Icom.
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@babba search for Carly here in the forum, since I bought myself this adapter I saved a truckload of money. All the mentioned devices by scrippy aren't the shelled out money worth it. Check this out! -> Thursday after work I recieved an call from an mech Hey, we can't get access to an costumers car ( newer model ) We did the service but can't reset is, as our scanner is not recognizing thw modules ....he went on with.... would you P.L.E.A.S.E. be so kind and come by for a sec. the costumer seems to loose his patience. I went there, freaking slapped my 40$ Carly adapter in the cars OBD2 port and fucking did a reset with it! Thats what Carly is, a freaking monster that starts to dominate the world! It is setting the right people in into thier place, so no harm, no ripoff, no lies, no willingly false diagnostics will be considered EVER anymore ! Let me put it in this words.... When I arrive to a shop, there is no : "We need to check, erase the CEL and wait for another.... It's more like ...what did Carly say? This? Ok, clear...got it! You want me to order the part? See? Complete game changer this Carly OBD2 thing is. ( yoda style ) |
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Again its cool to have your own oppinion, I like that. |
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08-21-2016, 04:26 AM | #10 |
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Second skipping carly and buying a k+DKan cable and downloading genuine BMW programs. I paid $100 for the one stop electronics cable and use it with INPA, NCS Expert/Dummy, ISTA P, Rheingold, etc all downloaded for free. There is nothing related to coding, Programing or diagnosing that I can't do. I feel Carly whiLe great for basic coding and reading CEL codes is pretty limited in what it can do if you are used to laptop based programs stick with that.
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08-21-2016, 01:00 PM | #11 |
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I'm glad that this stimulated some current discussion. I am used to Ross-Tech Vag-Com software for my Audi A4. My expectations for the BMW software would be to be able to read and display all BMW fault codes for every module, be able to alter most "safe" parameters of those modules, and to record/display most sensor outputs so I can trouble shoot problems. My Ross-Tech software did all this and paid-out in a short period of time as I've diagnosed several faults such as a failing mass air flow sensor and a memory fault in the air bag module.
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08-21-2016, 01:15 PM | #12 |
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Then Baba just check out this link below and decide on your own.
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...ighlight=Carly |
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This mixed with Carly is pure gold, correction diamond worthy information source to track down car related issues and finally repair them. |
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OP: IMHO Carly and the other phone apps are crutches for people who are unwilling or unable to learn how to use the BMW factory diagnostics and coding tools. It can never be as good as what the factory engineers created. A decent K+DCAN USB cable is cheaper than buying the Carly software and the required dongle. I paid ~$25 USD for mine a few years back. Recent work by nate14 and vmhelper00 at E90post has yielded the V3 virtual appliance which will allow you to skip the usual hours of work setting things up and hit the ground running with the factory tools. Check it out here: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1220039
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08-22-2016, 06:58 PM | #19 |
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Thanks all for the varied opinions. This has really flushed out the available options. I am used to PC based programs. One of the best things that I diagnosed was a failing mass air flow sensor. The error from my A4 stated that the air/fuel (A/F) trim corrections had reached its upper limit and still couldn't make the optimal A/F ratio. I recorded mass air flow versus rpm for 1st and 2nd gear wide open throttle (WOT) runs and saw that the mass air flow was only 60-70% of specification. I bought a new MAF sensor, installed it, reran the WOT runs and what do you know! 100% spec. No more CEL. That's the kind of diagnostic capabilities that I'm looking for. However without my A4 Bentley shop manual, figuring out the answer would have taken a lot longer which is why I keep harping about trying to find a manual for the M3.
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08-23-2016, 01:13 AM | #20 |
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I've been looking for manuals as well. I appears that there are manual available on DVD on ebay for ~$10. I suspect these are just copies of old torrents burned to DVD. I haven't been able to find a valid torrent file for the manual.
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08-23-2016, 01:36 PM | #21 |
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here you go chief, an free online version of the genuine BMW TIS for the e92 coupe.
http://workshop-manuals.com/bmw/3_se...als_e9x-m3-us/ Granted it's ad supported so it's a bit annoying but info is all there I think. If you want you can create a pdf for us all and link us, that would be sick haha |
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