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      03-21-2016, 02:44 PM   #1
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Schroth Quick Fit Pro

Anyone have a review on these?

Looks like the only possible option on the OEM seats. Once you upgrade power, tires, braking, its really hard to keep your a$$ in the seat and also very fatiguing holding your body in during cornering.

Clubs in my area seem to allow them, although I've seen a lot for sale on the board here, so I'm wondering if there's maybe a problem with them.

The pro's work with HANS which is a nice benefit.

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Anyone have a review on these?

Looks like the only possible option on the OEM seats. Once you upgrade power, tires, braking, its really hard to keep your a$$ in the seat and also very fatiguing holding your body in during cornering.

Clubs in my area seem to allow them, although I've seen a lot for sale on the board here, so I'm wondering if there's maybe a problem with them.

The pro's work with HANS which is a nice benefit.

Thanks!
They work great but watch out for spinal compression.

I'm guessing for sale guys have installed roll bar or cage.
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I love it - one of the best mods I've done. Makes driving so much more relaxing when you're not bracing all the time.

I've combined the quick fit pro with the Simpson FIA hybrid device for max safety
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I've had my set for 4 years, so they are getting close to their end of life. You need to watch which clubs allow them. PCA (just ran with them last weekend) has been fine with 4 point system, BMWCCA does not. Sometimes it's track specific too.

They are expensive but they do hold you down and it's super easy to install and remove.
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Massive improvement from factory 3-point belts. But due to leather seats and lack of side bolster adjustment, I still slide around a little in my seat and have to brace myself a little using dead pedal. I use mine with HANS if on track and will continue using after I get HALO seats.

Spinal compression must be a tall person problem?
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my girlfriend brought this up to me the other day. she wants me to get more safety stuff, and i'm definitely not opposed to it... i have some research to do because i know there is a hierarchy of things to buy in order for everything to work together as designed.
i told her, "the real way to do it is to run a half-cage with a rear seat delete and run harnesses with that and proper seats."
she shrugged her shoulders and said, "well, you don't really use the back seat anyways, and its for safety."
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my girlfriend brought this up to me the other day. she wants me to get more safety stuff, and i'm definitely not opposed to it... i have some research to do because i know there is a hierarchy of things to buy in order for everything to work together as designed.
i told her, "the real way to do it is to run a half-cage with a rear seat delete and run harnesses with that and proper seats."
she shrugged her shoulders and said, "well, you don't really use the back seat anyways, and its for safety."
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my girlfriend brought this up to me the other day. she wants me to get more safety stuff, and i'm definitely not opposed to it... i have some research to do because i know there is a hierarchy of things to buy in order for everything to work together as designed.
i told her, "the real way to do it is to run a half-cage with a rear seat delete and run harnesses with that and proper seats."
she shrugged her shoulders and said, "well, you don't really use the back seat anyways, and its for safety."
That's a slipperily slope. I wouldn't DD a car with even a half roll cage. You basically have "race car" once you go down that path.

Sounds like HANS/Hybrid plus either OEM or BMW performance seats with the airbag and QFP probably the safest you gonna get before going full retard.

Might get one of those fire extinguisher mounts though for the passengers seat. Didn't like hearing about that dude that cooked his M3 because he went off in the grass and stayed there too long.
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That's a slipperily slope. I wouldn't DD a car with even a half roll cage. You basically have "race car" once you go down that path.

Sounds like HANS/Hybrid plus either OEM or BMW performance seats with the airbag and QFP probably the safest you gonna get before going full retard.

Might get one of those fire extinguisher mounts though for the passengers seat. Didn't like hearing about that dude that cooked his M3 because he went off in the grass and stayed there too long.
right. the route you suggested is likely the way i'll go. hans/hybrid with recaro sportsters and a harness anchor. i'm not quite ready to give up the rear seats yet.
i did casually (testing the waters) mention that i should just get an older m3 and strip it. got shut down before i could finish the sentence.
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That's a slipperily slope. I wouldn't DD a car with even a half roll cage. You basically have "race car" once you go down that path.

Sounds like HANS/Hybrid plus either OEM or BMW performance seats with the airbag and QFP probably the safest you gonna get before going full retard.

Might get one of those fire extinguisher mounts though for the passengers seat. Didn't like hearing about that dude that cooked his M3 because he went off in the grass and stayed there too long.
right. the route you suggested is likely the way i'll go. hans/hybrid with recaro sportsters and a harness anchor. i'm not quite ready to give up the rear seats yet.
i did casually (testing the waters) mention that i should just get an older m3 and strip it. got shut down before i could finish the sentence.
Have had the same thoughts recently and the same conversation, and this is where I ended up (still have half cage plans down the road):
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I'm not a fan of the half cages, especially if they are bolted in. The OEM locations are strength tested...don't think where ever those pre-fabbed bars are mounted are.
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right. the route you suggested is likely the way i'll go. hans/hybrid with recaro sportsters and a harness anchor. i'm not quite ready to give up the rear seats yet.
i did casually (testing the waters) mention that i should just get an older m3 and strip it. got shut down before i could finish the sentence.
Yeah, I wanna do a e46 build one day. Just out of garage space. 3 cars is already enough lol. Was looking at a house with a 40'x40' detached garage with a lift. Need to pull the trigger on that!
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I'm not a fan of the half cages, especially if they are bolted in. The OEM locations are strength tested...don't think where ever those pre-fabbed bars are mounted are.
I think it depends, mine has plates welded in and then cage welded also. Definitely strong enough to handle the harness. Do wish had gone full cage to start.
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Yeah, I wanna do a e46 build one day. Just out of garage space. 3 cars is already enough lol. Was looking at a house with a 40'x40' detached garage with a lift. Need to pull the trigger on that!
Do it e46 build for me has been great car keeps impressing me more.
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Do it e46 build for me has been great car keeps impressing me more.
I'm jelly. Wish I had room for that and a trailer. Definitely the way to go.

Now just stuff a S65 under the hood
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I'm jelly. Wish I had room for that and a trailer. Definitely the way to go.

Now just stuff a S65 under the hood
Well check out primebmw and his s62 build more proven in race cars.
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I think it depends, mine has plates welded in and then cage welded also. Definitely strong enough to handle the harness. Do wish had gone full cage to start.
There's one popular bolt on which mounts to the wheel wells...that's pretty thin sheet metal. Not a fan of that at all.

My opinion, I think up to fixed backs, harness (4-6pt) and HANS is OK before going with a cage. Yeah, the fixed back seat won't fold and I may be supporting the car with my head in a rollover...but I also don't want my seat to break and then have my upper body flop around.

Beyond that, cage with at least a forward hoop.
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There's one popular bolt on which mounts to the wheel wells...that's pretty thin sheet metal. Not a fan of that at all.
maybe it secures to better places but also acts as a rear suspension brace?
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There's one popular bolt on which mounts to the wheel wells...that's pretty thin sheet metal. Not a fan of that at all.
maybe it secures to better places but also acts as a rear suspension brace?
I have seen any that tie into the suspension.

What scares me is what if you backwards into a wall and the bar gets pushed forward? Or what if you flip rear first and the bar gets pushed forward. The bolts could rip right through the sheet metal.

I would like to see a forward hoop but then it becomes a track car.

My personal philosophy is to keep the driver planted to maintain better control of the car to reduce the likelihood of an accident.
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I reinforced mine with gorilla tape should be fine. Plus your an advocate of preventing the accident anyways aren't you?
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I'm not a fan of the half cages, especially if they are bolted in. The OEM locations are strength tested...don't think where ever those pre-fabbed bars are mounted are.
Raven bolt-in half cage utilizes factory strengthened points - F and R seatbelt mounts. Kirk and AutoPower mount to rear wheel wells, which don't seem safe to me, so those two are a no go for me.

Edit: I see you mentioned wheel well mount issues in post 17 already..



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Track car, and still has sunroof? I am disappoint.
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