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      06-13-2011, 03:55 PM   #111
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Yes. We have specifically designed our xpipe based tune for that.

I definitely notice this... you know, more than anything else, I notice the car feel stronger in this area, I guess I've been running catless (ON THE TRACK OF COURSE!) for so long that I had forgotten what stock felt like in this area.

I am really enjoying this tune, can't wait to get some dyno numbers. The other thing I've noticed, curiously enough, M-DCT lag from a standstill appears to have been eliminated.
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I definitely notice this... you know, more than anything else, I notice the car feel stronger in this area, I guess I've been running catless (ON THE TRACK OF COURSE!) for so long that I had forgotten what stock felt like in this area.

I am really enjoying this tune, can't wait to get some dyno numbers. The other thing I've noticed, curiously enough, M-DCT lag from a standstill appears to have been eliminated.
That's great to hear Kit, glad your enjoying your tune and can't wait to hear how you get on with the dyno. Make sure they have a nice big fan!
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      06-13-2011, 05:20 PM   #113
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I definitely notice this... you know, more than anything else, I notice the car feel stronger in this area, I guess I've been running catless (ON THE TRACK OF COURSE!) for so long that I had forgotten what stock felt like in this area.

I am really enjoying this tune, can't wait to get some dyno numbers. The other thing I've noticed, curiously enough, M-DCT lag from a standstill appears to have been eliminated.
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That's great to hear Kit, glad your enjoying your tune and can't wait to hear how you get on with the dyno. Make sure they have a nice big fan!
Man this thread is so tempting!! I am definitely looking forward to seeing the dyno results, especially with the X Pipe!
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      06-14-2011, 07:39 AM   #114
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has anybody seen an increase or decrease in MPG from their normal driving after the tune.
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I doubt this has any effect on HP, but will a modded OEM exhaust have any impact on the tune? I am very tempted with the remote tuning software. My car is mainly used as a DD (with the occasional track session). What benefits can I realistically expect when driving around town?
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has anybody seen an increase or decrease in MPG from their normal driving after the tune.
Realistically its about the same, sometimes possibly 1-2mpg more.

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I doubt this has any effect on HP, but will a modded OEM exhaust have any impact on the tune? I am very tempted with the remote tuning software. My car is mainly used as a DD (with the occasional track session). What benefits can I realistically expect when driving around town?
Modded how? Cats?
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Modded how? Cats?[/QUOTE]

Cut open top of can, and replaced perforated tubes with straight welded pieces. Similar to this:

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...light=periokid

Affects mainly sound, but a little more direct flow. Again, I doubt that either the mod or the tune increase HP.
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Modded how? Cats?
Cut open top of can, and replaced perforated tubes with straight welded pieces. Similar to this:

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...light=periokid

Affects mainly sound, but a little more direct flow. Again, I doubt that either the mod or the tune increase HP.[/QUOTE]

Exactly, you aren't going to see any power difference with that, just sound really
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And as far as the effectiveness of tuning for DD?
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I doubt this has any effect on HP, but will a modded OEM exhaust have any impact on the tune? I am very tempted with the remote tuning software. My car is mainly used as a DD (with the occasional track session). What benefits can I realistically expect when driving around town?
The tuning strategy was done with making a great driving car better to drive.

Smoother and and more urgent without going too far and making it difficult to drive.

Doing this was harder than getting more power!

As far as power goes, we concentrate on doing it safely and not just using lots of ignition timing which is the norm for the tuning industry.

Removing fuel was strictly unacceptable.

Once some dyno tests are done you will see stock AFR's and very small changes to ignition. The key for us, like on many of our tunes is concentrating on getting the cam timing optimal as this in our opinion is the safest way to tune a car. This is infact very tricky and you have to understand the valve opening and closing events to really take benefit.

The tuning that's out there right now from us is very tame compared to what we can release. Like anyone else, we too can force ignition, keep very high ignition targets, run the engine a little leaner and create some serious power from just a tune. However, if the knock detection system is not quick enough to detect the knock or cannot knock back ignition fast enough you will have a serious case of Pistonus Ringmeltus.

Hope that gives a little more insight to our tuning strategy and what's actually on your ECU's right now.

One individual on this thread has seen the changes!

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Do you have a tune specifically for people with a 2ndary cat delete, exhaust and filter?
Yep, certainly do We've tuned for pretty much most different variations of bolt-on mods for the E9X M3.
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The tuning strategy was done with making a great driving car better to drive.

Smoother and and more urgent without going too far and making it difficult to drive.

Doing this was harder than getting more power!

As far as power goes, we concentrate on doing it safely and not just using lots of ignition timing which is the norm for the tuning industry.

Removing fuel was strictly unacceptable.

Once some dyno tests are done you will see stock AFR's and very small changes to ignition. The key for us, like on many of our tunes is concentrating on getting the cam timing optimal as this in our opinion is the safest way to tune a car. This is infact very tricky and you have to understand the valve opening and closing events to really take benefit.

The tuning that's out there right now from us is very tame compared to what we can release. Like anyone else, we too can force ignition, keep very high ignition targets, run the engine a little leaner and create some serious power from just a tune. However, if the knock detection system is not quick enough to detect the knock or cannot knock back ignition fast enough you will have a serious case of Pistonus Ringmeltus.

Hope that gives a little more insight to our tuning strategy and what's actually on your ECU's right now.

One individual on this thread has seen the changes!
Hey Sal!

It's great to know that you guys are continue to implement your great philosophy into the E9X M3s as well! We'll see how much change I have left over after I get your CF Airbox, maybe I'll be able to splurge a little extra for our E90, haha

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I'm looking forward to hearing people's feedback on the tune! My experience with Evolve has only been phenomenal!
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The tuning strategy was done with making a great driving car better to drive.

Smoother and and more urgent without going too far and making it difficult to drive.

Doing this was harder than getting more power!

As far as power goes, we concentrate on doing it safely and not just using lots of ignition timing which is the norm for the tuning industry.

Removing fuel was strictly unacceptable.

Once some dyno tests are done you will see stock AFR's and very small changes to ignition. The key for us, like on many of our tunes is concentrating on getting the cam timing optimal as this in our opinion is the safest way to tune a car. This is infact very tricky and you have to understand the valve opening and closing events to really take benefit.

The tuning that's out there right now from us is very tame compared to what we can release. Like anyone else, we too can force ignition, keep very high ignition targets, run the engine a little leaner and create some serious power from just a tune. However, if the knock detection system is not quick enough to detect the knock or cannot knock back ignition fast enough you will have a serious case of Pistonus Ringmeltus.

Hope that gives a little more insight to our tuning strategy and what's actually on your ECU's right now.

One individual on this thread has seen the changes!
That may be me Sal is reffering to .... and I love his tune! I took my M3 to the track this weekend with Sal's tune - and I dont' really care about dynos ... but I can feel and sense a difference... I've tried the car without Sal's tune and with Sal's tune switching back and forth several times - and definiteively there is a difference... 4k onwards there is more power, smoother more aggressive accel. With his tune, the M3 feels like the car it should have been as it came from the factory.

In sept, I plan to get an Akra Evo and go to Evolve/Sal's Stage 2 tune..
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That may be me Sal is reffering to .... and I love his tune! I took my M3 to the track this weekend with Sal's tune - and I dont' really care about dynos ... but I can feel and sense a difference... I've tried the car without Sal's tune and with Sal's tune switching back and forth several times - and definiteively there is a difference... 4k onwards there is more power, smoother more aggressive accel. With his tune, the M3 feels like the car it should have been as it came from the factory.

In sept, I plan to get an Akra Evo and go to Evolve/Sal's Stage 2 tune..
Thanks for sharing the feedback! There is true evidence of the benefits of their tune!

In regards to the exhaust, have you heard Evolve's Full Exhaust...it sounds quite sexy
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One of the things that really appealed to me about the jb tune, and the powerchip for my m5 is that the developers were constantly tweaking and upgrading the tune. This adds a lot of value to me. I'm sure the tune you have now is great, but do you plan on fine tuning as time passes? Would the upgrade to this new tune be complimentary?

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One of the things that really appealed to me about the jb tune, and the powerchip for my m5 is that the developers were constantly tweaking and upgrading the tune. This adds a lot of value to me. I'm sure the tune you have now is great, but do you plan on fine tuning as time passes? Would the upgrade to this new tune be complimentary?

Thanks!
That's exactly what we do. We periodically update our tunes and every single update is free. The more time we spend with each vehicle the more we can tweak the tunes to release more power or torque or simply make general improvements.

We also upgrade our software used in the remote tuning devices, we are currently working on code clearing and full datalogging features. Which, again, will be a completely free upgrade
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We also upgrade our software used in the remote tuning devices, we are currently working on code clearing and full datalogging features. Which, again, will be a completely free upgrade
now that's mega-awesome news!!
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That's exactly what we do. We periodically update our tunes and every single update is free. The more time we spend with each vehicle the more we can tweak the tunes to release more power or torque or simply make general improvements.

We also upgrade our software used in the remote tuning devices, we are currently working on code clearing and full datalogging features. Which, again, will be a completely free upgrade
Do you notify customers that updates are available? Or have someplace that they can check?
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Do you notify customers that updates are available? Or have someplace that they can check?
We notify directly via email
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