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07-10-2018, 09:26 AM | #23 |
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Can't understand why anyone would add the 2-Series to that list and leave out E39, 1 M Coupe, Z8 and others, as previous posters have said.. I see nothing on the 2 series
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07-10-2018, 03:06 PM | #24 |
no turbo, no auto, no iDrive, no kidding
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The E30 3-series was mostly a lame car produced during a lame automotive period. They are now classics, and desirable. There was certainly an authenticity to the design. But at the time, they were known somewhat as a car for privileged teenagers.
The E36 was really the backbone of the company for many years, and the basis for their future growth. It's the one that earned all the accolades. I had a Z3, it was a fun car. But when you build a car that's intentionally retro from day 1, it can't (by definition) be a "best" car. |
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135. The number says it all. #1.
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The E30 M3 was a homologation of a race car with far more horsepower and chassis tuning than the street-going version. It's got a cult following for sure, but the two contemporary street versions of the E30 M and non-M were not that far apart in performance and dynamics from my memory. Whoever put the Z3 in that list never drove one IMO. NOT putting the E86 Z4 Coupe on the list was an oversight. Again, the Spartanburg-built Z3 build quality was sub par. I've owned one for 21 years. It's a fun car to drive though.
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A manual transmission can be set to "comfort", "sport", and "track" modes simply by the technique and speed at which you shift it; it doesn't need "modes", modes are for manumatics that try to behave like a real 3-pedal manual transmission. If you can money-shift it, it's a manual transmission. "Yeah, but NO ONE puts an automatic trans shift knob on a manual transmission."
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^^ This.
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I'm sure the upgrades in 87 made a vast improvement, but in my mind, the series started out as an economy car. |
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