Gintani Twin Turbo E9X M3 Kit Dyno Graphs and Video

[MFL]

What's ridiculous about it? It's not like they just cake their product in KY and ram it home.

Also, removing the engine isn't *that* big of a deal to someone that knows what they're doing.

[s85e90]

Yes I know, I work on cars. I mean it's ridiculous that it really prevents the initial install from happening unless its a shop w/ lift doing it. I suppose you could just drop the motor to get the headers in/out and once they're installed yyou shouldn't have to touch anything. But I am more hoping that everything is at least serviceable once installed.

[Soorena]

If you had some sort Audi in the past, you wouldn't b!tch. Need to do [insert any engine related thing that comes to your mind here]? OK cool first pull the engine out.

[Mit_Boost]

Originally Posted by Disturbed

How much power you can put down on the street has just as much to do with engine abilities as it does with ECU tuning (ie: boost by mph)

A TT-setup is gonna be HUGE for the S65, but this is why I think you're gonna need to go standalone for these kinds of features; specifically an aftermarket TC that reduces Ignition, instead of closing the TBs

Originally Posted by Disturbed

The tq would be in the 750-850rwtq range. More or less splitting the difference between a Supra and Gallardo.

Another great point, def expecting something between an LS7-TT (RWD) or Gallardo/R8 TT (Euro Muscle)... All started lives as high VE, NA motors and when you add some FI they see huge gains, which go through the roof when the motors are built for boost & have a monster power band -- 8,500 Redline FTW

Originally Posted by RedMonster

17k -18.8k for whay size turbo? Hoping this is not the cheapest option. My guys can build a kit with the sake or bigger turbos for less than 12k. Tuned installed and tested.

WELL that's possible.... This is an "Off the Shelf" kit from a Vendor, so there's obviously a lot more work that goes into getting everything ready for mass production/testing. BUT if you're gonna go with a 1-off kit and a local vendor, it's completely possible it ends up costing more (fabrication/time/materials), especially if something bad happens (blown motor).

[SECOND2NONE]

Where did this infor if removing motor come from.. Because i remeber them just removing front suspension components to install the kit

[Patrón]

Originally Posted by SECOND2NONE

Where did this infor if removing motor come from.. Because i remeber them just removing front suspension components to install the kit

I don't know, but I do know that a header manifold swap requires engine removal.

[m3less]

Hoping this hits the market soon.

[SECOND2NONE]

If harrop cant pull some big numbers.. Ill stick with my e46.. Smh

[MFL]

Harrop will be between 540-600whp most likely.

[750i]

Charles@gintani.com

Any updates on how its going?

[wrecklessfool]

Originally Posted by MFL

Harrop will be between 540-600whp most likely.

I'm guessing based on the ongoing thread about the Harrop TS kit that we will see numbers on the low side of these estimates. Either way, I'm itching for the ACTUAL production-run figures to be released. Someone put down high-400's with the Harrop but that obviously needs a little tune tweaking

[SECOND2NONE]

Originally Posted by wrecklessfool

I'm guessing based on the ongoing thread about the Harrop TS kit that we will see numbers on the low side of these estimates. Either way, I'm itching for the ACTUAL production-run figures to be released. Someone put down high-400's with the Harrop but that obviously needs a little tune tweaking

Harrop loves talkin about about these dynapak numbers which means nothing to me.. Someone finally goes on dynojet and makes only 4xx on the highest reading dyno.. Depressing.. My stage 1 e46 makes about the same maybe more on a superflow dyno whichs reads 6% lower than a dynojet. I will be paitently waiting for a harrop stage 2. Until then, e85 stages 2 is where im heading with my e46

[squartus]

I got tired of waiting and got a ESS 625 kit, pretty happy with it.

[Murph335]

Final dyno run who cares if it says 700! Its all about the gains over stock on the same dyno, then trap speed at the track! See what mph this thing can hit!

[SilentAttack]

Check back summer of 2015.... by then they will have another picture up

[750i]

Sounds like another failed attempt at a twin turbo e92 m3. I should probanly just etick to my evo and forget about this shittynaftermarket we got for e92 m3's.... fuuuuk

[SVH]

Originally Posted by RedMonster

Sounds like another failed attempt at a twin turbo e92 m3. I should probanly just etick to my evo and forget about this shittynaftermarket we got for e92 m3's.... fuuuuk

I think not much longer till release. Having talked with Gintani (about a month ago) I believe their in production mode but have encountered casting issues for some of the parts. Would be resolved soon, if not already.

[Patrón]

Originally Posted by RedMonster

Sounds like another failed attempt at a twin turbo e92 m3. I should probanly just etick to my evo and forget about this shittynaftermarket we got for e92 m3's.... fuuuuk

pretty bad comparison. the motor in the evo and the evo itself have been around for 22 plus years. what aftermarket stuff do you think there was in the US for the talons and conquests in 1988-1992? the answer is nothing.

ps i'm an evo/conquest fan.

[Pu-94]

Originally Posted by SilentAttack

Check back summer of 2015.... by then they will have another picture up

[Sered]

Originally Posted by Patrón

pretty bad comparison. the motor in the evo and the evo itself have been around for 22 plus years. what aftermarket stuff do you think there was in the US for the talons and conquests in 1988-1992? the answer is nothing.

ps i'm an evo/conquest fan.

Timespan has nothing to do with it, and your example is poor because you're bringing up a bad time for car modding. The aftermarket for all cars was bad back then compared to now. The 2015 Mustang with a basic blower kit ran 10s just days after its release. There's 1000whp Coyote motors out there, motor has only been out since 2011.

There's no aftermarket on this platform because the vendors lock it down the best they can. There's no standing on the shoulders of other enthusiasts here, it's just little companies that rarely work with others aside from a few standouts. It doesn't help that 95% of M3 owners can't do work on their own car, so that DIY camaraderie and sharing spirit you find on other platforms is non-existent. No one vendor is to blame really, it's just how things are for modern BMWs.

[BobS]

I hope this kit is fully released soon and a TT s65 would be amazing but if any of you haven't rode in a 600-650 supercharged e9x M3 you should, its a quick car with plenty of power!

[SilentAttack]

Originally Posted by BobS

I hope this kit is fully released soon and a TT s65 would be amazing but if any of you haven't rode in a 600-650 supercharged e9x M3 you should, its a quick car with plenty of power!

I love the way your kit looks!!!! I just wish it were in the same price range as the other kits