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      02-27-2018, 09:57 PM   #1
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Which 2 would you pick: M2 + E92 M3 or R8 + Golf

I've always loved M cars for their "one size fits all". However went to a 991.1 GTS since M went turbo. New turbo's are better daily drivers w good tech, but lacking the special character of the M cars with unique motors.

While the 911 GTS was fantastic, I didnt like to DD drive it. I found myself not wanting to drive in the rain, parking a mile away from other cars, getting grumpy when the kids shoes were dirty, getting dirty looks from people who think I'm a douchebag for driving a P-car

Anyways, I'm going to a 2 car strategy now. 1 for a "DD" then a weekend "special" car that sounds awesome and N/A V8 or V10. I live in Nashville, where the roads are great and the weather is mild. I also work from home 3 days a week, so no traffic driving and 99% "pleasure" drives. This is key since I'm not sitting in rush hour in Chicago type roads / weather for car choices.

My neighbor picked up a brand new Hurracan. I hear it start up, and drive away daily. And it really got me itching for something "exotic" and special. And OHHH the sound of the V10 this isnt a jealously thing but I just want an exotic car!

Ok, so here's my choices on a $90k budget for 2 cars -

Choice A: Keep my 17 M2 manual then add an E92 M3

I really like the M2 as a DD. Manual w Dinan setup is a blast around town, just a fun well balanced manual rear drive bimmer. BUT it lacks any type of sounds or special feeling on backroads driving, or driving events. A bit to clinical like new M cars.

So I had a couple E9x M cars. LOVED the V8 and intake noise. Its intoxicating to me. And you can still pick up a decent low mileage 11 ZCP for around $35k. I love the E92 w Akra and Dinan intake.


Choice B: 14 R8 V8 or 11 R8 V10 then add 15 VW Golf

Start with the Golf. Its a $11k DD. 4 doors, german build quality. I get mileage reimbursement for work trips, so this car will cost next to nothing to own. Its to get around town when I dont drive the R8. Easy decision.

Why R8? I want a car that makes me drool when I see it, would like a super car / exotic , no tracking, comfy for daily driving duties, exotic sounds w exhaust, get to stair at the engine through the rear every time I walk up to it.... need I say more?

R8. Going to test drive a few again. V8 vs. V10. I had an S65 and S85. I have to admit I love the exotic sound of the V10. Bottom line is $80k gets me a 14 v8 with warranty, and newer tech. $80k get a 25k mile 2011 V10. I'll hold out for manual.

I had the 911, and as great as it was, never felt "special" for a 100k car (to me). The R8 looks and feels more like a supercar. No tracking just fun driving around town, and many club drives plus back road jaunts.

So... anybody own an R8 that they can report experiences? I would drive the R8 4 to 6 days a week. I would take it out for fun drives, put 4k miles a year on it. So not just a weekend car or collector.

Plus wifey has a Q7 for weekend family time.

The smart brain says Option A. But the emotional side says Option B R8 V10 for a true exotic car experience....

Which would you pick?
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For $80-100k, Iíd buy a 991.1TT and daily drive it. No interest in driving a 2015 Golf. I will probably keep my E90M3 when I buy the 991.1TT, but Iíll put snows on the Porsche and drive it year round.
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For $80-100k, Iíd buy a 991.1TT and daily drive it. No interest in driving a 2015 Golf. I will probably keep my E90M3 when I buy the 991.1TT, but Iíll put snows on the Porsche and drive it year round.
I had the 991.1 GTS which I prefer to the 991.1TT (TT is more comfy not as sport as the GTS). 911 is a great car, but not special enough for a 2nd car and not the best fit for a single car. I'd rather have 2 M cars or the R8 to drive 6 days a week.

The Golf is for getting around town time to time (bad weather, etc).
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R8+e9x m3! lol
Ha ha... love it. never thought of that... I'd have to get a garage lift then. I only have a 3 car garage, and the golf cart plus kids bikes takes up a full stall.

I could leave the VW parked outside and dont really care. Cant do that w the E92 M or R8.
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I drive rain and snow in M3s, and one has 700 rwhp. The Porsche with AWD and snows will be great. No Golf for me. Donít need a car that is too special to drive much of the time.

My understanding is that the 991.1 GTS used the old 3.8L N/A motor. Nowhere near the performance of a 991.2 GTS with turbo 3.0L or 991.1TT with turbo 3.8L.

If you want to stay high revving N/A, look at 991 GT3, or the Audi/Lambo, or if you are on a budget, the Ford GT350 and the E9xM3. I have the 6MT trans on my E90M3 but think the DCT is higher performing and better geared for the engineís power curve.
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I'm probably gonna get lynched for this but get the Golf GTI as your daily. It's practical as hell, 5 door, spacious, and fun to drive. Plus you won't mind treating a Golf like a beater, something you can't do with an M2/M3.

2nd car, go all out. I'd say get an R8 V10 over the R8 V8 cos the V8 really isn't much of an upgrade over an E92 M3.

My 2 cents.
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I'm having a similar dilemma.

Currently in my E90M3, and I plan to drive it into the ground. It was always my dream car but I wound up being able to buy it earlier in my life than I had expected. It has 97k highway miles but is doing awesome as my daily. Will throw winter tires on it as well.

Second car, I'm trying to work out if I should go with a R8 V10/V10+, 911 Turbo, or Gallardo. I've actually never driven any of these, but I know I'll appreciate them.

My only fear, and its a valid one, is that I will make this new addition my daily drive and just get bored of driving the E90. It happened to me within a month of when I had my 330Ci and had just bought the M3.

Interested to see what OP winds up with.
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I'm probably gonna get lynched for this but get the Golf GTI as your daily. It's practical as hell, 5 door, spacious, and fun to drive. Plus you won't mind treating a Golf like a beater, something you can't do with an M2/M3.

2nd car, go all out. I'd say get an R8 V10 over the R8 V8 cos the V8 really isn't much of an upgrade over an E92 M3.

My 2 cents.
I treat my E90M3 like a beater. You can buy them for $25k now (though I paid a lot more when I bought mine used 8 years ago). Drive cars you like. Donít park them to preserve them for their next owner while you drive an economy car. Unless you really prefer driving an economy car.
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I'm having a similar dilemma.

Currently in my E90M3, and I plan to drive it into the ground. It was always my dream car but I wound up being able to buy it earlier in my life than I had expected. It has 97k highway miles but is doing awesome as my daily. Will throw winter tires on it as well.

Second car, I'm trying to work out if I should go with a R8 V10/V10+, 911 Turbo, or Gallardo. I've actually never driven any of these, but I know I'll appreciate them.

My only fear, and its a valid one, is that I will make this new addition my daily drive and just get bored of driving the E90. It happened to me within a month of when I had my 330Ci and had just bought the M3.

Interested to see what OP winds up with.
What I'm seeking is the "thrill" only a N/A V8 or V10 can provide in sound and high revs over 8k RPM. The kind of rush that makes you giggle like you're a 5 year old, especially paired with the right exhaust. But needs to feel planted like a sports car. The current M lineup no longer has this. Even the 991.1 GTS didnt have the "epic" top end. While a 911 GT3 would, is out of my budget, and likely a bit harsh for non track work.

The S85/S65 motors were special to me (insert tear dripping icon here) for this reason. However they come at a price of maintenance (rod bearings, etc).

This is why I have zero interest in the M4 GTS or other turbo cars to fill this void.

BUT I also want a modern package for DD when needed. And the E92 doesnt cut it for an only car... Which leads me to my 2 car setup
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I treat my E90M3 like a beater. You can buy them for $25k now (though I paid a lot more when I bought mine used 8 years ago). Drive cars you like. Donít park them to preserve them for their next owner while you drive an economy car. Unless you really prefer driving an economy car.
I would drive the R8 frequently, thus my comment of "6 days a week".

Example: Today its raining. I need to drive downtown for a work meeting, taking an R8 is a chore - parking structures, rainy weather, door dings, etc. Tomorrow I need to pick somebody up from the airport for a couple work meetings. Not a good fit for the R8. Insert the GTI for these duties.

It would not be a garage queen in terms of mileage, or use. My neighbor has an 08 R8 with 3k miles on it!! I see it tucked in his garage... If I have a sweet ride I will find time to get out and drive it (2 hours to go get milk). My other neighbor has a brand new Hurracan that he parks outside and drives his kid to the bus stop - I respect that

Its handy to have a utility car to drive for the instances where I would prefer NOT to drive the R8. There are times I will hop in my wife's SUV from time to time even over the GTS for example, this is when I would hop in the GTI.
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No. E92 m3 and r8.
I hear ya. However I already know I want the V10 R8 for the epic high end motor plus seeing the V10 under the rear glass , which means my budget shrinks for the DD. And the R8 V8 paired with a E92 M3 doesnt make sense, both have similar motors.
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No. E92 m3 and r8.
I hear ya. However I already know I want the V10 R8 for the epic high end motor plus seeing the V10 under the rear glass , which means my budget shrinks for the DD. And the R8 V8 paired with a E92 M3 doesnt make sense, both have similar motors.
But different characteristics... rear engined awd, and front engined rwd.
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I think you should decide if you want the E9X V8 over the V10 and then either buy the Audi + Golf or I vote to supercharge the M3 + M2 daily.
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The 2011 R8 v10 was pretty weak from what I've experienced. Prob equivalent to a FBO e92 in terms of acceleration. The new ones are really fast tho. The Audi is almost on par with its big brother Huracan.
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Audi r8 v8 is slow tbh it's similar to a stage 1 golf r if not slower. I would do m2 and e92 m3. Best way is to test drive them all and make your own choice.
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Golf plus e92.

Golf much better daily than M2.

E92 fbo is faster than an R8 v8 manual.
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The S85/S65 motors were special to me (insert tear dripping icon here) for this reason. However they come at a price of maintenance (rod bearings, etc).

BUT I also want a modern package for DD when needed. And the E92 doesnt cut it for an only car... Which leads me to my 2 car setup
I would happily bet money the S85 in an M6 is way more reliable than any R8 or Gallardo.

The DI V8/10 used to have major carbon buildup issues. There is no fix for that.

I'd buy the S85 (friend has one in a 6MT M5 from 2009 and it's just incredible) with a valved exhaust and just pay the 2-3k to get the bearings changed
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90k would not be enough to get into the r8 I would want and still be able to buy a DD. I have a close friend in San Jose selling his 2010 r8 v10 with a stasis extreme package. It was a $64k dealer installed option with supercharger. 700hp and under 30,000 miles. His is for sale now for $108k.

Assuming you are setting aside 20k for a DD I don't know where you are gonna find a r8 for 70k unless it's an 08 or high miles which I would not want.

I would want to get the r8 and golf if I was you but don't see the numbers adding up so I would do the m2 and put some money into the m3. Supercharger etc
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90k would not be enough to get into the r8 I would want and still be able to buy a DD. I have a close friend in San Jose selling his 2010 r8 v10 with a stasis extreme package. It was a $64k dealer installed option with supercharger. 700hp and under 30,000 miles. His is for sale now for $108k.

Assuming you are setting aside 20k for a DD I don't know where you are gonna find a r8 for 70k unless it's an 08 or high miles which I would not want.

I would want to get the r8 and golf if I was you but don't see the numbers adding up so I would do the m2 and put some money into the m3. Supercharger etc
There are a couple 14 R8 V8 in the $80's and 11 V10's in the $80's. Or I'll just push my budget up a bit to get something nicer.
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Most people with $100k car budgets arenít really on a super tight budget.
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