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      03-06-2014, 11:17 AM   #1
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What's Louder? Test pipes w/ OEM mod Perf method or OEM ACM Bypass alone?

What's Louder? Test pipes w/ OEM mod Perf method (2 pipes) or OEM ACM Bypass alone? Please let me know guys, I would love you hear your feedback regarding not only volume but also tone and drone!

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test pipes with OEM mod is louder for sure, and will sound better in tone.

not sure about drone.
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tp with oem. expect a lot of rasp
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Test pipe with oem exhaust will be louder and will have rasp.
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test pipes with OEM mod is louder for sure, and will sound better in tone.

not sure about drone.
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Test pipe with oem exhaust will be louder and will have rasp.
Spot on...no doubt !
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isn't acs method technically an "oem mod"?
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isn't acs method technically an "oem mod"?
Yes it is,it's the straight through method also called ACM
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I was going to say test pipes with ACM mod but that is what I have and it's loud with a rasp after 4k RPM. It's louder because they delete the pipe from crossing in the axel back technically becoming straight pipes. Less resistance so more sound. OEM mod just replaces the perforated pipe with straight pipe.

OEM Mod below. More restriction, less sound.






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ACM Mod below. Less restriction, more sound.





I have to agree that this modification is loud but if you want PURE RACE CAR then ACM is the route. I love it and everyone I have met loves it. I have had compliments and shocked faces from people who spent thousands to realize they could get an amazing sound from OEM chopped up.
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If not plans to do TP, then go ACM method, it still is one of my favorite sounds. Was not a fan after I added TP.
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All is work, and to retain the heavy oem muffler? Why?
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All is work, and to retain the heavy oem muffler? Why?
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I was going to say test pipes with ACM mod but that is what I have and it's loud with a rasp after 4k RPM. It's louder because they delete the pipe from crossing in the axel back technically becoming straight pipes. Less resistance so more sound. OEM mod just replaces the perforated pipe with straight pipe.

OEM Mod below. More restriction, less sound.





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I have to agree that this modification is loud but if you want PURE RACE CAR then ACM is the route. I love it and everyone I have met loves it. I have had compliments and shocked faces from people who spent thousands to realize they could get an amazing sound from OEM chopped up.
Haaaah !!!.....I can see pics of my own Oem.exhaust mod > http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=733817
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If not plans to do TP, then go ACM method, it still is one of my favorite sounds. Was not a fan after I added TP.
I would agree but at the same time this sound is pure race car in my opinion and thats what I am all about. Good you are honest though.
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+1 I am on a bit of a modding budget and don't want to drop 3k on a axle back. I do want to get the test pipes in but not if there isn't an affordable axle back option that matches up well with it. I am not too big of a fan the way it sounds with the stock muffler. So I was trying to see if the quietest version of the OEM mod paired with test pipes would be similar to the Bypass in volume and sound. I would go with the megan racing exhaust but I have an E93 and I don't want to modify the extra brace that it has.
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+1 I am on a bit of a modding budget and don't want to drop 3k on a axle back. I do want to get the test pipes in but not if there isn't an affordable axle back option that matches up well with it. I am not too big of a fan the way it sounds with the stock muffler. So I was trying to see if the quietest version of the OEM mod paired with test pipes would be similar to the Bypass in volume and sound. I would go with the megan racing exhaust but I have an E93 and I don't want to modify the extra brace that it has.
I say you go with the OEM mod if you are not too sure. ACM is loud and race car so to be on the safe side OEM mod may be your right choice.
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I say you go with the OEM mod if you are not too sure. ACM is loud and race car so to be on the safe side OEM mod may be your right choice.
+ 1...Exactly !
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I understand both methods...but BOTH methods are an oem mod...you mod the oem exhaust...they are both pretty much straight pipes aren't they (both have closed pipes and are not emitting anything into the muffler).

In order not to create method we should be saying: (a) perforated pipe method, or (b) ACM method. These are both modded oem units.

Why am I being so technical? I'm usually just a troll lol lol.
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+1 I am on a bit of a modding budget and don't want to drop 3k on a axle back. I do want to get the test pipes in but not if there isn't an affordable axle back option that matches up well with it. I am not too big of a fan the way it sounds with the stock muffler. So I was trying to see if the quietest version of the OEM mod paired with test pipes would be similar to the Bypass in volume and sound. I would go with the megan racing exhaust but I have an E93 and I don't want to modify the extra brace that it has.
lots of great exhausts for sale in the classifieds. Picked mine up for $1300.
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+1 I am on a bit of a modding budget and don't want to drop 3k on a axle back. I do want to get the test pipes in but not if there isn't an affordable axle back option that matches up well with it. I am not too big of a fan the way it sounds with the stock muffler. So I was trying to see if the quietest version of the OEM mod paired with test pipes would be similar to the Bypass in volume and sound. I would go with the megan racing exhaust but I have an E93 and I don't want to modify the extra brace that it has.
Ah I was going to suggest Megan. I saw a Corsa FS for $1300. Then you can add ACM TP and call it a day. IMHO, that's a great option.
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I understand both methods...but BOTH methods are an oem mod...you mod the oem exhaust...they are both pretty much straight pipes aren't they (both have closed pipes and are not emitting anything into the muffler).

In order not to create method we should be saying: (a) perforated pipe method, or (b) ACM method. These are both modded oem units.

Why am I being so technical? I'm usually just a troll lol lol.
To get even more technical, I refer to the perforated pipe method as the oem mod and the straight through method as the ACM mod. Reason being...years back the first person to mod their oem exhaust did the perforated pipe method which caught on and had many adopters and threads on it. Then eventually a new mod, the straight through design, was performed by Auto Couture originally hence the name ACM mod.
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but it should technically fall under the same category:

oem mod....2 methods....perf/acm.
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It's louder because they delete the pipe from crossing in the axel back technically becoming straight pipes.
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