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if anyone is bored and in need of some fresh content, i've really enjoyed this youtube channel of a young couple exploring alaska in a truck bed camper.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCir...e0a5-6Q/videos
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I Watched a little royalty exotics, he's offering Vegas locals 50% discount on super car rentals, you can rent a Huracan for less than $300/day if you're a local until 4/15 and 30% discounts on gift cards to non locals for future rentals. He's been spending a ton of money lately, one has to figure this is going to put a damper on his business model. I used to not like him so much but now I think he's a smart level headed individual, I hope he gets through it. What else are you guys watching on YouTube?
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drift car builds aren't really my thing, but this build has been fun to watch. makes it look easy. lots of great use of new tech in construction as well.
https://www.youtube.com/user/PapadakisRacing/videos
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Covid-19 is more deadly and more contagious than the flu. You are right that 80% of the population will be fine if they catch it. It is unfortunate you don’t care about the other 20%. They are our friends, parents, relatives, neighbors and many we don’t know who are old or have other illnesses or compromised immune systems. They can catch Covid-19 from the other 80%. If many get it at once or in a short period of time, the likelihood of the vulnerable 20% getting it goes way up. You apparently don’t understand that there aren’t enough hospitals and ventilators to treat the very sick among that vulnerable 20%, so many would die. If you were able to read, you would know exactly that is happening in Italy right now. The goal is to flatten out the curve so people are exposed at a lower rate over a longer period of time si the health care system can manage it rather than be overwhelmed with the result being that many more die than is necessary. I don’t know whether you are ignorant, stupid, or just greedy and upset the stock market is down, but based on your comment about how you have been a trader and investor for 25 years, greed seems like one match and I’d say ignorance is a pretty likely second match. |
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i'm not worried about my retirement plans. anyone that invests probably knows its a long term game. eventually, we are going to have to get back to work regardless of the status of the virus. you can't just pause the economy, it doesn't work. i'm thinking this "stay home" advisory will be lifted in a few weeks. in the next few weeks, the healthcare industry will ramp up what they need to treat specific patients and then just deal with the infected as they happen, with a staunch reminder of good personal hygiene. i just don't see how this is sustainable.
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The hospital system has a hard limit to what it can sustain. You vastly underestimate, actually you completely ignore the collateral deaths that would happen should we decide to throw in the towel and get back to normal. Any american that sustains an accident or disease unrelated to COVID19 that requires a life saving intervention in a hospital would essentially die. 1%? Italians are dying at a 6 to 8% clip and they are massively underreporting deaths by COVID19 as elderly are dying in their homes without being tested. Stop spreading fucking non sense and get educated on the multitude of variables at hand. |
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The Italian gov the other day said that while the number of dead is high (793 that day), they have not been able to surely identify all being from corona. Bear in mind there obviously also is "natural cause" of death, in Italy I recon close to 2000 people a day. Not claiming this shit is to fole around with, but strongly believe proper data have to be weighted vs the alternative impact on society, which I'm praying will be possible soon. Edit: Worth to notice that in Italy 85% have been above 85 years of age. Of course doesn't justify death by corona, but indicate their may be other reasons in the cases not yet identified. Last edited by Helmsman; 03-22-2020 at 04:34 PM.. |
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1 percent of the population isnt worth screwing over 100 percent of the world popluation and economy for. You vastly underestimate the ancillary cost and death related to the financial aspect of this.
I'm front line dealing with this as is my wife. Has a number been set how many masks are needed to save x number of lives. Where is that dotted line exactly we are trying to stay under? It's a made up feel good graphic. If we stay home for a month then let eveybody run around wont there be another spike. Can we handle that spike later. If this virus is like the flu and millions get it seasonally will what we do stop the deaths next year or the next 20? |
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Hypothetically, without taking any protective measures you will run into impacting our very poorly funded medical infrastructure in a matter of weeks. Public hospitals (private either) do not have enough beds to care for every person that may get sick, fatally or otherwise. Hospitals would fill up, run out of supplies, and beds. This means that the next person that needs to be admitted for one of the hundreds of other afflictions (cardiovascular issues, diabetic complications, injuries, mental health admissions) will not be able to. Furthermore, the risk of of hospital staff being infected is a concern especially considering the limited availability of supplies. Although what I said is a consideration of a small aspect of the 'doing nothing' approach, we are already seeing some of this scenarios play out. I'm not sure what your point is about how many masks and a dotted line. In terms of masks and other personal protective equipment (PPE), there is a shortage. So, the 'how many are needed?' is a useless question because even if we knew a firm number there's still not enough. I have to wait for gloves and other PPE for my lab since it's all on back order. The point of staying home is to slow the spread of the virus and get to a point where the rate of new cases ceases or slows down. This is importantly critical because coronavirus infectious tend to act like most other colds - you get sick and you go around spreading it to others - it's contagious and not incredibly deadly. Viruses that are highly contagious and have a relatively low mortality rate are experts at spreading. In contrast, viruses that are highly contagious and have relatively high mortality (Ebola) have limited spread. Think of comparing a wild fire (Coronaviruses) to a grenade (Ebola) - one spreads further and longer in time while the other is fast and violent. It takes a couple weeks for the coronavirus to run its course in a host and preventing transmission sets up a barrier of sorts. Think about what you do for any other cold, you stay home! Why? So you don't get everyone else sick! Think of that on a larger scale for a city, we all stay home so we can give the virus time to run it's course and fizzle out! Limit the spread like throwing a paper towel on a spill! Sure this will hurt the economy, but in addition to being the right thing to do the alternative will have an even worse impact on the economy! As to your questions about future spikes, no need to worry! If we take measures to prevent the virus from spreading there should not be another spike later. Once this type of Coronavirus fizzles out it will not come back, which is why you don't to see spikes of new cases of SARS from 2003 or of MERS from 2012. Sure there are other coronaviruses out there waiting to get us, but this is a type we've not encountered before that has an unusually higher mortality rate than the average Coronavirus. Hopefully this helps you understand more. Also, may I ask how you and your wife are on the front line dealing with this? (As opposed to just existing in this current state of things like the rest of everyone). Also, considering your word usage, front line implies a war or a battle, right? So you do recognize the fight we're all in, or are your posts just arguing for argument's sake? |
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Testing is key and the federal government failed us all with that. It's impossible to fight an infectious disease without knowing who has it. Again, as I said in my previous post there should not be any future spikes when this Coronavirus type is brought under control.
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I hope not. Vaccine seems a ways off, at least longer than we can huddle at home which to me means it will spike again later after we see peak here in a couple more weeks.
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