Supercharge ??

[EJT86]

I wasn’t suggesting OP say anything I was wondering why the convo was still going on without OP saying anything

[BOOF-M3]

Originally Posted by EJT86

I wasn't suggesting OP say anything I was wondering why the convo was still going on without OP saying anything

Yes it was Me who actually suggested it. But I appreciate you taking the bullets for me.

[EJT86]

Originally Posted by BOOF-M3

Yes it was Me who actually suggested it. But I appreciate you taking the bullets for me.

Always a good idea to befriend the guy with extra M3s

[BOOF-M3]

Originally Posted by EJT86

Always a good idea to befriend the guy with extra M3s

It's always a dilemma which one to take. It's beautiful out, I think I'll put the top down on the Civic M3.

[EJT86]

Originally Posted by BOOF-M3

It's always a dilemma which one to take. It's beautiful out, I think I'll put the top down on the Civic M3.

You should swap body parts on each of them. Urban camo white grey and black on one and grey white and black on the other

[BOOF-M3]

Originally Posted by EJT86

You should swap body parts on each of them. Urban camo white grey and black on one and grey white and black on the other

I'm not even going to respond to that in someone else's SC thread. It's 2009 all over again when there were no rules in the forums. I take full responsibility for this thread jack.

[EJT86]

Originally Posted by BOOF-M3

I'm not even going to respond to that in someone else's SC thread. It's 2009 all over again when there were no rules in the forums. I take full responsibility for this thread jack.

He already said he’s going to SC his car so his question is answered the thread is up for grabs

[E92///]

I am also entertaining buying ESS 650 kit. After reading this thread I am still pretty torn between the facts of the amount engine wear long term.

I have read and heard how great the reliability and quality is with the ESS kit that is not the issue.

Having that extra power is always going to put a smile on my face, but not at the cost of ruining the engine.


I understand that with a supercharger you are making more power at lower rpm. Most blown engines happen at higher rpms, but again I am assuming there is added stress to a motor not designed for boost. This is what I have read from other threads.

I replaced my rod bearings already for piece of mind.

N/A or S/C?😂

[BOOF-M3]

Originally Posted by E92///

I am also entertaining buying ESS 650 kit. After reading this thread I am still pretty torn between the facts of the amount engine wear long term.

I have read and heard how great the reliability and quality is with the ESS kit that is not the issue.

Having that extra power is always going to put a smile on my face, but not at the cost of ruining the engine.

I replaced my rod bearings already for piece of mind.

N/A or S/C?😂

Ran into a 2009 E90 yesterday with a Ess 650 mated to a DCT. He has 30,000 Miles on it with zero issues.

[Maxf80M3]

We can't live in fear.

Look at this poor guy N/A

complete engine blow https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1481770

[SDPLV]

Has anyone nuked a Harrop SC kit?
I want that low end torque!

[Kmad86]

Main bearing issues is really making me hesitate on SC

[E92///]

Originally Posted by Kmad86

Main bearing issues is really making me hesitate on SC

I am in the same boat....I came across this Old thread

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1287824

[LaLaRay]

If ya don't buy it then send him my way. I'll give you a finder's fee 😉

[ard5040]

Quick update if anyone is interested. Install was done about five weeks ago. Had some problems with flashing the software and ESS wasn't the most helpful initially since I hadn't purchased the kit new. In the end they did alright. This is a completely different car. Dynoed (sp?) on a 75 degree day at 563 rewhip and 427 rwtrq. With traction control off the rear end will come around very quickly when you're even 3/4 throttle. Unbelievably fast. Would I have paid $9500 for it new? Maybe after driving it 800+ miles. For the guys that said it will cause too much stress on the motor, I ran 18 lbs of boost on a n54 for 136k miles with no issues. I did replace the turbos with oem but most n54 owners running at stock boost have to also. How is 8 lbs on this set up different? I'm almost certain that the ESS kit, unlike AA's kit, retains the stock pulley position. At least it appeared to when I looked mid install. Bilstein B6s and Dinan springs next.

[EJT86]

Originally Posted by ard5040

Quick update if anyone is interested. Install was done about five weeks ago. Had some problems with flashing the software and ESS wasn't the most helpful initially since I hadn't purchased the kit new. In the end they did alright. This is a completely different car. Dynoed (sp?) on a 75 degree day at 563 rewhip and 427 rwtrq. With traction control off the rear end will come around very quickly when you're even 3/4 throttle. Unbelievably fast. Would I have paid $9500 for it new? Maybe after driving it 800+ miles. For the guys that said it will cause too much stress on the motor, I ran 18 lbs of boost on a n54 for 136k miles with no issues. I did replace the turbos with oem but most n54 owners running at stock boost have to also. How is 8 lbs on this set up different? I'm almost certain that the ESS kit, unlike AA's kit, retains the stock pulley position. At least it appeared to when I looked mid install. Bilstein B6s and Dinan springs next.

The N54 is designed to be run with boost i.e. the compression ratio is set up that way. The S65 runs high compression and was intended to stay NA so just because you ran an N54 for a while doesn’t mean the high compression S65 will have the same results

[1MOREMOD]

Originally Posted by BOOF-M3

It's always a dilemma which one to take. It's beautiful out, I think I'll put the top down on the Civic M3.

How did you drive both m3s to the hotel

[pbonsalb]

The 427 lbs rwtq does not seem right. What kind of dyno? Do you have the sheet?

[Iyzmi]

Originally Posted by ard5040

For the guys that said it will cause too much stress on the motor, I ran 18 lbs of boost on a n54 for 136k miles with no issues. I did replace the turbos with oem but most n54 owners running at stock boost have to also. How is 8 lbs on this set up different?

LOL

Originally Posted by EJT86

The N54 is designed to be run with boost i.e. the compression ratio is set up that way. The S65 runs high compression and was intended to stay NA so just because you ran an N54 for a while doesn’t mean the high compression S65 will have the same results

This.

[i_love_cars]

Originally Posted by ard5040

How is 8 lbs on this set up different?

[DSilk]

Originally Posted by EJT86

The N54 is designed to be run with boost i.e. the compression ratio is set up that way. The S65 runs high compression and was intended to stay NA so just because you ran an N54 for a while doesn’t mean the high compression S65 will have the same results

I agree, and this is my concern with any S65 that has been boosted.

[Properstyle]

The n54 is not a low compression motor. In fact it's a lot higher than many previous cars before then that were boosted from the factory. I will add that I did beat on my previous m3 for 55k miles in a 2 years with 30k of that being supercharged until I sold it to move on to a f80 m3 at 101k on a 2009. I did quite a few track events to included 2 half mile events in ga which I drove to and even an Ocala event. the s65 is quite the shout motor. It is also a Short stroke motor which is why is has such a low tq production. TQ is what breaks things not HP. I think he will be fine as slong as he takes care of the car.