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I NEVER said the M3 is the best thing since sliced bread; in fact the only Bimmers I like whatsoever are M3's and SOME M6's. The M3 is a bit over-priced but these Mustangs are getting ridiculous. Like it or not.
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I actually didn't find the interior ugly on the 2013 mustang GT I had. The new front lights and rear tail lights are a huge improvement over the previous model. I also loved how you can change the colors of the exterior part of your dash to any color plus the middle to another color. That was just a cool and great option that really impressed me. Roads in Montreal (due to snow an salt in winter) are very bad and I found the suspension VERY VERY bad even my GF commented how she hated it. My 2011 S4 is a MUCH better handling car. Like I said I was really thinking of replacing my 08 M3 with the new GT500 but after having the mustang GT I decided on sticking with the M3 and reordered a 2012. I'm sure the GT500 suspension should be better that the GT but I still can't see it being as good as the comp package M3 that I went for. I will wait for the next chassis mustang with IRS and pass on this model.
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05-27-2012, 07:15 PM | #25 | |
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Now if you are talking about ADMs, that isn't MSRP. Also, the Mustangs interior is light years ahead of the Camaro's...I think the exterior of the Camaro is actually quite attractive, just the interior still reminds me of a Cavalier. Dave
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I'm sorry, but I care about more than just horsepower in a car. I still think the mustang is ugly as sh*t. I just couldn't bring myself to owning one for anything other than just track use. It does nothing for me when I see one ride by. Add another 500 more hp in it and its still ugly. No thanks
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05-27-2012, 07:58 PM | #28 |
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You're actually VERY wrong... As I've mentioned in this thread I was actually thinking of getting one. I negotiated 4k off MSRP with almost all options.
*** edit*** meant to quote mark896 two posts up.
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05-27-2012, 08:36 PM | #30 |
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Hmm, 662HP... Me want!
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I knew I could get about 4k off because I went to the GT500 forums.
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Being a domestic, this may be a rare occasion where picking one up here and then moving it down south might work in the US buyers favor. Bases at $62K...will be just shy of $70K including Track Pack, Recaros and tax. |
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i wanted to look into the ZL1, but i was completely turned off after driving a SS.
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So far hardly any news on the ford about how it handles and drives on the track other than the HP, TQ and 1/4 mile 0to60 times. The ZL1 has tons of editor reviews on the racetrack. The ZL1 is to the camaro SS what the 323 is to the M3. Yes it's that far off from all the reviewers. They say to NOT compare the SS at all to the ZL1 as its not 1 notch above an SS it's 5 notches. A friend of mine ordered a ZL1 so I will be able to give a hands on street review of it in June that I am eagerly looking forward to.
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05-28-2012, 09:19 AM | #37 | ||
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And yes they can still get away with marking up ... If you don't remember the original GTR was marked up by dealerships that hadn't presold and promised them to clients. What they do is they use it as a demo and can sell a used car at any market price they can get for it. That's exactly what happened to the GTR here in Montreal.
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Selling cars today had become a hp joke. Just like cameras. More megapixels! More horsepower!
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05-28-2012, 10:26 AM | #39 |
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some of the people on this forum need to relax a bit and keep an open mind. personally, as a car enthusiast i LOVE that all these mega multinational companies are spending unimaginable amounts of money to build better and better cars that i would like.
we car enthusiasts are in the driver's seat, pun intended. when i go to buy my next car i'll be able to choose something that's faster, quicker, goes around a track faster, etc. |
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05-28-2012, 10:29 AM | #40 |
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Completely agree. I guess if they make a 2000hp mustang it will be the fastest, bestest, car in the world?
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05-28-2012, 01:45 PM | #42 |
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This is what a muscle car is....affordable big power. There has to be some compromise somewhere. The reason everyone is talking is that there hasn't been any serious American Muscle for a long time. The big German three, and the Japanese before that, have dominated the mainstream horsepower wars for several decades now. As far as affordable big power goes, the American muscle car is back !!!! If it really bothers you that much, for $30k you can have an ultra premium interior made to order and your GT500 will still only cost $90k !!!! Still a performance bargain.
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