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      03-23-2022, 10:07 AM   #89
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'If MAX wants to win this race ...

He must do it in QF-3 by shaving walls like crazy ( remember last year )

If he can pull P1 in QF ..That's the only way to beat Ferrari on this rat-trap- track .
And in the race ,then It's all about elbows out while he closes the doors ..

Otherwise It's P1/P2 for Ferrari again with the World Champions Car !

Mercedes won't be there in the top-5
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That was one of the most beautiful laps I've ever seen up until the clash.
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He was frustrated by his short term contracts and the stress it out him under, not the fact that Merc treated him like garbage. Merc always let bot try to challenge for the drivers title, the only time they started to do team orders is when one driver is so far ahead of the other and needs the wins to lock in the champion ship during tight seasons.


Yeah Bot did have some race pace and consistency issues. You saw on the first race he messed up the start and it caused him to drop alot of places in which he had to regain, this was pretty common during his time with Merc too.
I'm convinced ..This was the reality !
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Well there you have it folks, MPB is convinced.

No reason to have any doubts anymore.
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According to Audi Motor und Sport;

Mercedes engines ARE underperforming and not taking E10 as well as Ferrari/RBPT. Shell did excessive work with Ferrari for this.

Redbull snatched critical aero engineers from Mercedes and MB is underplaying their importance. It could cost them.

McLaren is screwed - too many issues that need resolution

George Russel is overdriving the car a little bit similar to the Williams

Alfa didn't have room in the budget for Ferrari gearbox or rear axle

Haas aero is one of the best on the grid
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With the minimum weight of cars now increased to 798kg teams are taking desperate measures to lose weight to even get anywhere near that.
Some teams are removing paint like McLaren are from the air box's and using smaller transfers of sponsors to lose some weight from already overweight cars.
This is something I have not been able to understand, why raise the minimum? I figured that is part of the engineering design and some teams have gotten close to the original weight.

I think the Saudi track should be interesting and a good test for following in the new cars. Pretty certain that is what caught Mick last season, following close and pushing in that corner where the Ferrari spun prior that weekend.

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This is something I have not been able to understand, why raise the minimum? I figured that is part of the engineering design and some teams have gotten close to the original weight.

I think the Saudi track should be interesting and a good test for following in the new cars. Pretty certain that is what caught Mick last season, following close and pushing in that corner where the Ferrari spun prior that weekend.

Side note: there is some crazy dick riding in this thread
Because all of the changes over the years (hybrid engines, halo, reinforcing of the front nose, larger wheels, etc) add weight to the car. At that point, teams have to start adding performance parts/aero/etc which tacks on more weight. The latter needs to be accounted for by using minimum weight requirements.
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This is something I have not been able to understand, why raise the minimum? I figured that is part of the engineering design and some teams have gotten close to the original weight.

I think the Saudi track should be interesting and a good test for following in the new cars. Pretty certain that is what caught Mick last season, following close and pushing in that corner where the Ferrari spun prior that weekend.

Side note: there is some crazy dick riding in this thread
Yup think everything was answered for you, keep in mind this is a dangerous track with the almost blind bends taken at maximum speed.
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Because all of the changes over the years (hybrid engines, halo, reinforcing of the front nose, larger wheels, etc) add weight to the car. At that point, teams have to start adding performance parts/aero/etc which tacks on more weight. The latter needs to be accounted for by using minimum weight requirements.
I understand the weight change due to regulations, but what I meant is because some cars are off the minimum weight, does not mean you increase the minimum weight. I see that as an area to gain performance, there are years to come under this formula and I see no benefit of raising a minimum at a time where the cars have been in development for 2 years.

Hope I am not wrong, but just cause Red Bull and Mercedes are chunky does not mean you move the goal post. I believe I saw somewhere Alfa was the lightest. Maybe just rumor
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I understand the weight change due to regulations, but what I meant is because some cars are off the minimum weight, does not mean you increase the minimum weight. I see that as an area to gain performance, there are years to come under this formula and I see no benefit of raising a minimum at a time where the cars have been in development for 2 years.

Hope I am not wrong, but just cause Red Bull and Mercedes are chunky does not mean you move the goal post. I believe I saw somewhere Alfa was the lightest. Maybe just rumor
I think it's a type of performance balancing. Teams probably have to show the FIA that there needs to be X amount of minimum mass accounted for the rear wing to pass FIA tests, Y amount for the diffuser, Z amount for the floor, etc... I don't know exactly how the minimums are procured exactly but I'd assume that's more or less it.
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Helmut Marko told F1-Insider.com: "To put it simply. A vacuum in the fuel supply system caused the engine to be unable to obtain any more fuel. I think we can solve the problem already in Saudi Arabia this weekend."

Good news for this weekend.

RB v Ferrari will be niiiiiiiiiiiiceeee on Sunday.
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With the minimum weight of cars now increased to 798kg teams are taking desperate measures to lose weight to even get anywhere near that.
Some teams are removing paint like McLaren are from the air box's and using smaller transfers of sponsors to lose some weight from already overweight cars.
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Because all of the changes over the years (hybrid engines, halo, reinforcing of the front nose, larger wheels, etc) add weight to the car. At that point, teams have to start adding performance parts/aero/etc which tacks on more weight. The latter needs to be accounted for by using minimum weight requirements.
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Yup think everything was answered for you, keep in mind this is a dangerous track with the almost blind bends taken at maximum speed.
• A. Newey

Yes 798 KG
The RB18-B has overweight and needs a diet...

An overweight of 3 KG is a laptime of + 0.1 sec.
The Red bull has an overweight of 9 KG , that's a laptime of + 0.3 sec.
So ...In theory the Red Bull can be 0.3 sec. faster !

In addition, the budget ceiling also plays a role in saving weight. The costs of saving a few kilos are 'huge', according to Newey !

•I'm thinking about the 'weight from the RB18-B fuel from last weekend...
Less fuel equals less weight , but things can go wrong !
( Not confirmed by Red Bull yet )

Aston shaved the cars paint , and gained +/- 300 grams .

Ferrari got the FIA car inspection for both cars ! Is the Ferrari-Jet-Mode real ?

The Sunday weather prediction for the race at Jeddah is that a sandstorm is lurking !!!
=> https://racingnews365.nl/zandstorm-l...-saoedi-arabie

#CamelRace !!!
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Helmut Marko told F1-Insider.com: "To put it simply. A vacuum in the fuel supply system caused the engine to be unable to obtain any more fuel. I think we can solve the problem already in Saudi Arabia this weekend."

Good news for this weekend.

RB v Ferrari will be niiiiiiiiiiiiceeee on Sunday.
MAX said today : I'll show fireworks at Jeddah!

But ( according the weather prediction ) He will show just sand !
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MAX said today : I'll show fireworks at Jeddah!

But ( according the weather prediction ) He will show just sand !
As long as he stays away from the barriers - I'm open to whatever that Belgian-Dutch rocket does.
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As long as he stays away from the barriers - I'm open to whatever that Belgian-Dutch rocket does.
Yeah ...It's like who has the biggest (shaved) b@lls ?

The race simulation => https://www.reddit.com/r/formuladank...eb2x&context=3
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Yeah ...It's like who has the biggest (shaved) b@lls ?

The race simulation => https://www.reddit.com/r/formuladank...eb2x&context=3
By the way, you mentioned you use google translate to read/write some of the stuff in English and I just wanted to say you're doing great at keeping up with everything here.
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By the way, you mentioned you use google translate to read/write some of the stuff in English and I just wanted to say you're doing great at keeping up with everything here.
I use Google-Translate very exceptional , because it s@cks anyway

Actually I said it to the HAM preachers that they must use Google-Translate for the Translation from my Dutch articles ..

But I can tell you ...Today I already spoke and wrote in 4 different languages .

I really appreciate your kind words ! Thank you Sir !
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One more ...Check this out !!!
Well my friend today I received my 928 fuel pump from Germany, I feel I am working in tandem with the RB mechanics here
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Well my friend today I received my 928 fuel pump from Germany, I feel I am working in tandem with the RB mechanics here
That's great news my friend

Porsche ...There is no substitute !
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There's no translation required for this !

The viking Kmag comeback !!!
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Well my friend today I received my 928 fuel pump from Germany, I feel I am working in tandem with the RB mechanics here
Good news U-Boat Commander
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Porsche ...There is no subsitute !
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