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      11-12-2018, 02:14 PM   #23
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I think the Conti Extreme Contact Sport is the best mix of comfort, cost, and wet traction. If you add dry traction as a priority then the PS4S wins, but In my experience (and I've heard it from others) the Conti is less edgy at the limit which is another streeet tire plus IMO

I hate the DWS and the DWS06. I hated the DW. But this particular Conti is Good Stuff

Colder temps don't make the *good* newer summer tires, the ones that now don't warn you to stay off them until 20 degrees, worse than all-seasons in cool weather, it's not like 15 years ago when summer tires turned into undrivable rocks below 40 degrees. The PS4S and Conti are both friendly sub-40 in the damp. You won't find anybody winning index at an autocross on all-seasons unless it's snowing, and that person will lose to the guy who brought snow tires anyway, because all-seasons are actually no-seasons and suck equally in all conditions making life a boring gray blah experience that you're better off just not living at all

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This is great info, thank you. As stated in original post, I'm not too concerned with wet handling since it rarely sees any rain, but cold temps are a whole other story. Today it was about 15 degrees heading to work so something that can handle sub freezing is a necessity. Knowing most can handle it gives me some peace of mind.
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Below 20 is probably too cold for any summer tire to be consistently. At least if you believe the hype about cracking
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I third the notion on Conti Extreme Contact. They are every bit as good as the PSS yet cheaper than PS4S. Great tread life too, and it fixed all the short comings of the Conti DW
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I think the Conti Extreme Contact Sport is the best mix of comfort, cost, and wet traction. If you add dry traction as a priority then the PS4S wins, but In my experience (and I've heard it from others) the Conti is less edgy at the limit which is another streeet tire plus IMO

I hate the DWS and the DWS06. I hated the DW. But this particular Conti is Good Stuff

Colder temps don't make the *good* newer summer tires, the ones that now don't warn you to stay off them until 20 degrees, worse than all-seasons in cool weather, it's not like 15 years ago when summer tires turned into undrivable rocks below 40 degrees. The PS4S and Conti are both friendly sub-40 in the damp. You won't find anybody winning index at an autocross on all-seasons unless it's snowing, and that person will lose to the guy who brought snow tires anyway, because all-seasons are actually no-seasons and suck equally in all conditions making life a boring gray blah experience that you're better off just not living at all

/all-season soapbox
Based on feedback I went with the Continental ExtremeContact Sports. Haven't really had a chance to drive on them but so far I'm impressed. Given my actually usage it seems like these will have the best blend of wet handling, performance, comfort and noise... for my needs. Thank you all for your suggestions.
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Check out the Hankook Evo2 or Sumitomo HTR ZIII. Cheap and they're still decent summer tires.
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