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      09-15-2021, 05:42 PM   #111
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Traded a Z4MR for ordered E92 comp. 6mt
Throttle response of S65 is a dream.
Also - the 3k vanos rattle of those S54s!
Umm… no
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I've owned several E46 M3's and E9x M3's.

I currently have a Z4MC and E92 M3 in my stable.

The E92 M3 is comfortable, good build quality and a nice soundtrack. Thats all.

There is no question the S54-powered car puts a smile on my face more. It has a much more satisfying power delivery and a much more robust engine as a whole. The S65 rotating assembly is made of glass
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      09-15-2021, 07:54 PM   #113
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Thereís no doubt the e46 is a great car, though Iím getting kind of fatigued with the hype on it. Iíve driver them hard, and frankly, they are heavier, less raw than the e36s that came before (and for those of us lucky to have had euro spec e36s, the engine isnít such a big step up), and less exotic and robust than the e92s that came after. The engines arenít comparable between the e46 and e92.

Iíll always love the looks of the e46, but Iím routinely scratching my head these days about how there seems to be this belief that it represented the high point of the breed. I think the negative reaction to the news of a v8 M3 back in 05, long before the e92 was driven by the press, particularly amongst the British press, started all this.
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      09-16-2021, 10:45 AM   #114
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I've owned several E46 M3's and E9x M3's.

I currently have a Z4MC and E92 M3 in my stable.

The E92 M3 is comfortable, good build quality and a nice soundtrack. Thats all.

There is no question the S54-powered car puts a smile on my face more. It has a much more satisfying power delivery and a much more robust engine as a whole. The S65 rotating assembly is made of glass
Huh
what doesn't make sense?
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      09-19-2021, 12:53 AM   #115
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I've owned several E46 M3's and E9x M3's.

I currently have a Z4MC and E92 M3 in my stable.

The E92 M3 is comfortable, good build quality and a nice soundtrack. Thats all.

There is no question the S54-powered car puts a smile on my face more. It has a much more satisfying power delivery and a much more robust engine as a whole. The S65 rotating assembly is made of glass
Huh
what doesn't make sense?
I reckon your opinion doesn't make sense to a lot of us.
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I've driven a lot of S54 powered cars and never have I ever thought man I wish this car had more motor

What I've thought a lot about was man I wish the frontend worked at all

Fixable, obviously, but that's my main beef with the cars. My other problem with them is two door saloons are stupid

I think the Z4M roadster is the best of all of them because it isn't trying to be anything but hilarious fun
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I've driven a lot of S54 powered cars and never have I ever thought man I wish this car had more motor

What I've thought a lot about was man I wish the frontend worked at all

Fixable, obviously, but that's my main beef with the cars. My other problem with them is two door saloons are stupid

I think the Z4M roadster is the best of all of them because it isn't trying to be anything but hilarious fun
^Last sentence hits it on the nail. Also agree about S54 powered cars, it's one hell of an engine. I can't wait to put some kind of carbon intake on mine.
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      09-30-2021, 10:23 AM   #118
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Everyone has an opinion, including me!

A friend and I took a rented E46 SMG and my E90 DCT on some of Malibu's finest roads several years ago. The E46 was the more rewarding canyon car of the two because it was more communicative and its power peaked lower in the rev range. Curiously, the E90 M3 seemed to me to least interesting in the canyons and best in the city or at the track. In the city, the E90 could really calm down and coddle. On the track, the S65 engine does its best work and the E90 chassis comes alive and communicates.

I wrote a blog piece on the two cars here.

In my eyes, the E46 is the quintessential M3. The E90, on the other hand, shines because it has the best M3 engine.
Really good blog. I read this article and particularly liked your review of the performance school 💪
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This sums up how I feel about a stock e46 m3.

Video should start at 1:22:33 but doesn't seem to for some reason on the embedded player
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