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      07-10-2007, 10:38 PM   #1
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2008 BMW M3 beats a Carrera S on the Nurburgring

Take a look:

http://www.autospies.com/news/2008-B...you-how-17504/

Who's still fretting?
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      07-10-2007, 10:49 PM   #2
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Great news!

The .pdf presentation link has alot of neat info too!
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      07-10-2007, 10:53 PM   #3
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I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, so tell me how it beats the Carrera?
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I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, so tell me how it beats the Carrera?
I know, that is only what the BMW engineer told Autospies. However that went down...
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What did the Carrera S run?
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      07-10-2007, 11:01 PM   #6
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What did the Carrera S run?
From the other thread;

8:05 --- 152.907 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, 355PS/1461kg (sport auto 05/05),


Not sure if this is still the accurate time.
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Sounds good to me.
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      07-10-2007, 11:14 PM   #8
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8:05 --- 152.907 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, 355PS/1461kg (sport auto 05/05),
The RS4 got a time of 7:58, so we know it could be anywhere between those numbers. Or better yet even fast than the RS4.
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      07-10-2007, 11:25 PM   #9
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How do you adjust the DSC, EDC, ECM and Servo response without iDrive?
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      07-10-2007, 11:39 PM   #10
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How do you adjust the DSC, EDC, ECM and Servo response without iDrive?
what exactly does this have to do with the thread?
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How do you adjust the DSC, EDC, ECM and Servo response without iDrive?
Not really relevant with the topic but i believe you just press the buttons? Theres 3 next to the shifter, DSC, EDC and Power.
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      07-10-2007, 11:45 PM   #12
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Question So what is the lap time?

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The RS4 got a time of 7:58, so we know it could be anywhere between those numbers. Or better yet even fast than the RS4.
Someone with a fancy graphics package will be able to work out the area under the curve on p43, so the challenge now is WHAT IS THE AVERAGE SPEED?!
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The RS4 got a time of 7:58, so we know it could be anywhere between those numbers. Or better yet even fast than the RS4.
This time has never been confirmed by Audi....the official time is 8:09. The RS4 isn't even close to the new M3.....

The target is the 911....
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This time has never been confirmed by Audi....the official time is 8:09. The RS4 isn't even close to the new M3.....

The target is the 911....
My mistake, thanks for the correction.
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This is still not solid, but if it is true, it's great, but at the same time, it makes me feel uneasy about pricing. I've made the same comment on the other thread that had the salesforce brochure, where BMW seemed to be directly going after the 911. If it actually beats the 911S by a significant margin, I think we might be toast, and might have to shell out more than we initially thought...
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Do you think it will beat the old C5 Z06's time of 7:56? ( :rocks: )

Sorry, as a former owner I just have to bring that up all the time...
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I think I'd still rather spend the extra money and get a C2S
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This is still not solid, but if it is true, it's great, but at the same time, it makes me feel uneasy about pricing. I've made the same comment on the other thread that had the salesforce brochure, where BMW seemed to be directly going after the 911.
The initial sales brochure for the E46 M3 also compared it with the 911. Don't worry just yet!
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      07-11-2007, 01:38 AM   #19
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Tentatively - I'd say

I don't doubt that the new M3 can beat the S around the ring. It has a superior power to weight ratio and revs higher. I do not think this story though yet gives us real confidence that the M3 time is less than the S. Autospies is pretty bad on the outrageous headlines. We'll have to see but sounds reasonable/likely to me.
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I don't doubt that the new M3 can beat the S around the ring. It has a superior power to weight ratio and revs higher. I do not think this story though yet gives us real confidence that the M3 time is less than the S. Autospies is pretty bad on the outrageous headlines. We'll have to see but sounds reasonable/likely to me.
+1 "Autolies" is more known for sexy pics of car show girls than true hardcore automotive facts..........

That being said the 444bhp V8 M3GTR ate up the Porsches back in the 2001
IMSA so who's to say it won't happen again........for a price.....
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+1 "Autolies" is more known for sexy pics of car show girls than true hardcore automotive facts..........

That being said the 444bhp V8 M3GTR ate up the Porsches back in the 2001
IMSA so who's to say it won't happen again........for a price.....
+1 i'm very much over Autolies too, not just the content, but some of the tripe that's passed off as opinions/discussion over there!
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I hope that it does close the gap on the 997S, however, I really doubt that it will beat it. About the same time that the M's official times are announced is likely to be about the same time that Porsche will announce how much addtitional HP the 911 is getting. IMO, it will likely get, at least, an additional 15 HP-producing 370; possibly even 375. The torque will likey be boosted to over 300 lb/ft. This is very probable since the X51 option currently yields 381 and 311, respectively; evidence that these numbers are easily attainable together. If Porsche does do what they should and exceed the x51 results with the base S model, then the M won't have a prayer.
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