ACM Mod Done!! Holy cow 13 hrs/labor?!?!

Impervious · 05-23-2018, 06:39 PM

I picked up my car from the shop today. The ACM Mod sounds amazing. Couldn’t be happier with the exhaust.

The bad part is... the bill was for 13 hours of labor. This is partly my fault, I should have spoken about the scope of work that was required prior to letting them do it. But dear god, I never expected to shell out so much. The hourly rate was $80. I expected <$600 given other peoples’ experiences and posts.

In total they:
Did the ACM Mod + opened it on both sides to ensure the full circumference of the pipe was closed.
Swapped the e90 exhaust tips for my e92 tips
Swapped/installed my stock exhaust for my secondary one they did the ACM Mod on.

Total bill for parts and labor $1,200. Damn this thing sound great though...

BayE30 · 05-23-2018, 06:40 PM

UHHHHH, wow i would have bought an aftermarket and installed myself in an hour. But if you are happy, then i guess thats all that matters.

jamba · 05-23-2018, 06:42 PM

wow - that is excessive. It should take half that time tops!

Impervious · 05-23-2018, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SFCM3

UHHHHH, wow i would have bought an aftermarket and installed myself in an hour. But if you are happy, then i guess thats all that matters.

Had I known that it would cost as much as it did... that’s what I would have done.

eatsleepboost · 05-23-2018, 07:01 PM

Wow! You got ripped off for sure.

azndrunk74 · 05-23-2018, 08:06 PM

That doesn’t sound right. I paid $120 for the ACM mod including swapping in new 80mm tips. Damn..

Properstyle · 05-23-2018, 08:14 PM

complete rip off shops around here sell that for 450 labor and all you just got raped.

BOOF-M3 · 05-23-2018, 08:30 PM

That's a lot of hours.

Impervious · 05-23-2018, 08:47 PM

Thanks for the feedback guys. I’m never the person to follow up after I paid but I felt compelled to do so here.

I emailed them and acknowledged they are a top notch shop but the effort required seemed extremely excessive. I asked them to confirm that there wasn’t an error and the labor charge was correct. I mentioned others’ experiences and expectations regarding costs/labors.

It’s their prerogative to cash the $1,200 check I wrote, and they’d never hear from me again but I hope they reconsider.

Also, yes - I’m in NC!

Atomicteal_M3 · 05-23-2018, 08:53 PM

Jesus! I paid $150 labor for mine!

And that's here at Fayetteville NC.

b4hand · 05-23-2018, 09:28 PM

Holy cow

m3jala · 05-23-2018, 09:41 PM

Live and learn. I think you are handling it well with how you wrote back to them. They should justify and you now can refer to the comments here for what others have paid. If they can't price match, at least come back to something resembling reality.

GORDON.M3 · 05-23-2018, 09:49 PM

No man. No.
ACM mod should be $300 max.

M3ANMACHINE · 05-23-2018, 09:52 PM

uhhhh... did they take it home and sleep with it? or do they just have not a single idea of what they are doing.... I've never welded before and I could have done it and rented all the necessary tools for less. lol

roastbeef · 05-23-2018, 11:01 PM

What in the hell.

6ixSpd · 05-23-2018, 11:04 PM

Holy shit, did they at least give you some KY before bending you over? I don't know what's worse: the bill or the fact you agreed to pay it with a straight face.

GerrS65 · 05-23-2018, 11:09 PM

Geez. doing mine myself next weekend... it's going to cost me $45 bucks, and 2 hours of labor.

Bartledoo · 05-24-2018, 12:42 AM

Bahahahaaa

Impervious · 05-24-2018, 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6ixSpd

Holy shit, did they at least give you some KY before bending you over?

Nope, that costs extra.

Pro-AM3 · 05-24-2018, 07:21 AM

Sounds about right to me. Removal, work, re install.

deansbimmer · 05-24-2018, 07:57 AM

To remove mod and reinstall the muffler I get 300 at my shop which I feel is on the bottom end of the spectrum. I wouldn’t touch the job for $150 and can’t imagine a quality job being done by a competent shop for that, so don’t feel like that is normal. I regularly see $400-600 charged for the job but more than that means they haven’t done one before and got you to pay for their learning curve.

sdarc · 05-24-2018, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Impervious

Also, yes - I’m in NC!

What part of the state? it will give me an idea of whom to stay away from without mentioning the shop.

05-23-2018, 06:39 PM	#1
Impervious UNC FTW 27 Rep 741 Posts Drives: Black Sapphire 135i Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: NC iTrader: (0)	ACM Mod Done!! Holy cow 13 hrs/labor?!?! I picked up my car from the shop today. The ACM Mod sounds amazing. Couldn’t be happier with the exhaust. The bad part is... the bill was for 13 hours of labor. This is partly my fault, I should have spoken about the scope of work that was required prior to letting them do it. But dear god, I never expected to shell out so much. The hourly rate was $80. I expected <$600 given other peoples’ experiences and posts. In total they: Did the ACM Mod + opened it on both sides to ensure the full circumference of the pipe was closed. Swapped the e90 exhaust tips for my e92 tips Swapped/installed my stock exhaust for my secondary one they did the ACM Mod on. Total bill for parts and labor $1,200. Damn this thing sound great though...
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BayE30 Lieutenant Colonel 1343 Rep 1,881 Posts Drives: 2011.75 E90 M3 ZCP Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (5)	UHHHHH, wow i would have bought an aftermarket and installed myself in an hour. But if you are happy, then i guess thats all that matters.
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05-23-2018, 06:42 PM	#3
jamba Captain 162 Rep 764 Posts Drives: M3 E90 Jetblack Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: WA iTrader: (4) Garage List 2009 BMW E90 M3 [0.00]	wow - that is excessive. It should take half that time tops!
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eatsleepboost Captain 420 Rep 656 Posts Drives: Evo Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Boston iTrader: (1)	Wow! You got ripped off for sure.
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azndrunk74 Major 612 Rep 1,326 Posts Drives: Frozen Black F10 M5 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Bay Area, CA iTrader: (13)	That doesn’t sound right. I paid $120 for the ACM mod including swapping in new 80mm tips. Damn..
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05-23-2018, 08:14 PM	#7
Properstyle Major 506 Rep 1,385 Posts Drives: 2011 e90 ZCP m3 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Killeen, TX iTrader: (0)	complete rip off shops around here sell that for 450 labor and all you just got raped. __________________ 2011 E90m3 ESS G2, active auto x pipe, RK FULL E85, DD 2015 X5M Bootmod3, Downpipes, Mineral white-The wifes DD 1994 300zx 2jz Swapped slicktop- The toy/track car
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BOOF-M3 Brigadier General 4452 Rep 4,010 Posts Drives: 2011 M3 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Pasadena Florida iTrader: (1)	That's a lot of hours.
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05-23-2018, 08:47 PM	#9
Impervious UNC FTW 27 Rep 741 Posts Drives: Black Sapphire 135i Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: NC iTrader: (0)	Thanks for the feedback guys. I’m never the person to follow up after I paid but I felt compelled to do so here. I emailed them and acknowledged they are a top notch shop but the effort required seemed extremely excessive. I asked them to confirm that there wasn’t an error and the labor charge was correct. I mentioned others’ experiences and expectations regarding costs/labors. It’s their prerogative to cash the $1,200 check I wrote, and they’d never hear from me again but I hope they reconsider. Also, yes - I’m in NC!
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Atomicteal_M3 Brigadier General 750 Rep 4,430 Posts Drives: E90 M3 AW Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: FT. Bragg, NC. iTrader: (28) Garage List 2007 335i [9.00]	Jesus! I paid $150 labor for mine! And that's here at Fayetteville NC. __________________ ModeCarbon V1 CF lip/PF AG CF SS ext./ARKYM CF Diffuser/OSS AE's/B&G Springs/CF Performance Spoiler/V2 Led Performance SW/Meisterschaft GT exhaust
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m3jala Captain 544 Rep 765 Posts Drives: Jet Black 2013 BMW M3 Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Tysons Corner, VA iTrader: (0)	Live and learn. I think you are handling it well with how you wrote back to them. They should justify and you now can refer to the comments here for what others have paid. If they can't price match, at least come back to something resembling reality.
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M3ANMACHINE Admiral 933 Rep 3,886 Posts Drives: 2011 E90 M3 + 2014 F15 X5 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Irvine, CA iTrader: (11)	uhhhh... did they take it home and sleep with it? or do they just have not a single idea of what they are doing.... I've never welded before and I could have done it and rented all the necessary tools for less. lol __________________ 2020 FORD RAPTOR 2014 F15 X5 \| M-SPORT SOLD 2011 SG E90 M3 \| 2008 AW E90 M3 \| 2004 E46 M3
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GerrS65 Private First Class 155 Rep 158 Posts Drives: 2010 E92 M3 Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Utah, US iTrader: (0)	Geez. doing mine myself next weekend... it's going to cost me $45 bucks, and 2 hours of labor.
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05-24-2018, 07:21 AM	#20
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