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2018 CTS-V: too fast for me!
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I got a full day in a third-gen 2018 CTS-V over Angeles Crest, and the car was so ridiculously hooked up and flipping fast that I came away astonished...but also cold. I also own a second-gen 2014 CTS-V wagon, and the third-gen was an improvement in almost every imaginable way -- except for trunk space ;-) -- but I no longer felt like the newer car's capabilities matched my own on a mountain road. Essentially, there was so much grip and power that the limits were well beyond my risk taking tolerances. I'd have to take the new V to the track to comfortably find its edges. (I did a full writeup with photos of my day, too.) Anyone else holding out on an "upgrade" to the new M3, M5, CTS-V, or whatever, because the new cars are too damn fast for your favorite roads? I'm really excited bout the newly released CT5-V Blackwing, but since third-gen CTS-V is already too fast for me in the canyons, I'm having doubts! From reading the reviews on the new M3, I get the sense it would be the same story... Last edited by 414bhp; 09-27-2021 at 09:23 PM.. |
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Sounds like you are enjoying the 2018 but from today's standards, it's pretty heavy and slow. Maybe some of the sensation was coming from attempting to wrangle that 2+ ton beast through the narrow turns, which takes a lot of attention and focus to get right. Be safe out there.
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This is precisely one of the reasons I require a manual to have fun, because that at least adds a layer on top of just pure speed. Otherwise, the car is borderline unusable most of the time.
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I struggle with the same questions. I also thought about the gen 3 CTSV, but the lack of a manual kills it for me, as does the sky-high limits. The Giulia QV apparently offers much of the driving involvement but it’s auto is the only thing that stopped me from trading in the e92.
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The other thing about the Giulia is that it uses _very_ sticky tires. As such, there's more traction than engine torque in most situations. Just like the 3 CTS-V, you'll be going ridiculously hard to find the Giulia's edges! Last edited by 414bhp; 09-15-2021 at 10:13 AM.. |
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Cannot say the same thing about the Porsche. It is not possible to floor it even for a few moments without reaching jail speeds. So as a consequence I just cruise and drive slow and just be happy to be in a Turbo S. Same thing can be said for a lot of really fast newer cars out now including the electric cars.
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Interestingly, my 2015 F10 M5 w/ Dinan tune taught me that HP isn't everything so I can relate, for sure. 600+ WHP is just too much *to enjoy* on the street. 400 HP is pushing that limit. my e92 M3 is right there. my old e46 M3 always left me wanting a bit more so I feel like the e9x is the sweet spot for me.
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Maybe odd but I think driving high powered cars with no manual feel less safe to me. I feel a bit disconnected, don't know what gear I'm in and feel like I can go into corners a lot hotter than I intended to. When driving a manual I'm always making conscious decisions of what gear to be In and you intuitively know the torque band and MPH limit of that gear. I strongly prefer to feel more in control regardless of power level.
Side note, drove the guila QV and it was wicked fast. Way faster than my e92. Got a ton of power and I was surprised how quickly it revved for a turbo car. It was a beast. I still prefer the e92 look and feel, but speed wise I don't think it's a contest. |
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On the QV, yea, from a speed/power perspective, it's no contest for sure.
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