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      05-31-2010, 05:22 PM   #23
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You guys should read this. Check meisterschafts post

http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=40641
Disgusting......
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      05-31-2010, 10:33 PM   #25
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      05-31-2010, 11:08 PM   #26
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      05-31-2010, 11:56 PM   #27
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good thing their words were quoted because he deleted his own posts
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      05-31-2010, 11:59 PM   #28
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You guys should read this. Check meisterschafts post

http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=40641
Wow, thanks for that link. Talk about total pwnage! I love the way Jae kept all the evidence under wraps until the perfect time to make GTHaus/Meisterschaft eat his own words. Where are all the Meisterschaft supporters now? What performance level are you guys at?

Like I said last time, there are still those who might like the sound of Meisterschaft's exhausts and don't care about the reputation or ethics of the company. Those people will still buy the exhausts. The saddest part is that in short time from now, many people will have forgotten this fiasco, newcomers won't know the history or won't care. History will repeat itself over and over again, I guarantee it. You cannot escape the Glendale effect (sorry Fruitcake, stepping on your territory but I understand now that I've been stuck in Glendale for the past 3 days).
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price of used meisterchaft exhausts just went down BIG TIME!!!

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      06-01-2010, 04:50 PM   #30
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First, I am so sorry that this has happened to you.. it sucks and makes me feel sick in my stomach. Second, As a similar event has happened to my patents, from a very large company (on forbes 500) infringing my product from design, function, and customers. I would like to share my two cents.

you have a few options
1. If you have a design patent this will greatly increase your chances of winning as the design seems to be the main clause of their "shady" business.
2. If you have Non Disclosure Agreements, manufacturers agreements or any type of contract that forbids them with selling a competing product (any certain manufacturer as it could hurt your sales) or any type of written form of "Good Faith" business this will help you win.
3. You can ask for a preliminary injunction. for an immediate cease of sale. (although not really immediate, this can take 1-2 months)

My opinion is they may have copied your product because your exhaust is sold in the market. Your product also could have been reversed engineered. If you have supplied them with sensitive materials, confidential information, drawings, specs that are not used in the open market this can be used against them. Any emails or faxes can also be used against them. Remember even though your company and the general public thinks its copied this is all considered "open information". You can't do anything about it unless you have some sort of agreement between your companies, or have patents that restrict other companies from infringements. I recommend going to trial as the jury would usually favor the obvious instead of the "law".

OH yeah you can also sue for bad business practices or ethics!

Good luck!

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GTHaus (formally Eisenhaus) had issues with Neez as well. Not to the extent of EisenGate or with Kriessieg, but still pretty shady:

http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/m5-...mw-wheels.html
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      06-06-2010, 07:33 PM   #32
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thats just terrrrrrr able (charles barkley voice)
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      06-06-2010, 07:56 PM   #33
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thats just terrrrrrr able (charles barkley voice)
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      06-06-2010, 08:16 PM   #34
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Oh how I love to watch GTHaus fail time and time again the dude is such a joke

John gives Michigan State such a bad name is thats the type of business they're handing out degrees for
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hmmm interesting...
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      06-13-2010, 01:19 AM   #37
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Wild...caught red-handed...still back peddling.
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