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      08-15-2017, 11:50 AM   #177
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I have no clue what he did, except that it was beyond the coding. Benvo secrets I suppose.
Cool, thanks for getting back to me. I'll figure it out.
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      09-27-2017, 05:48 PM   #178
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Did anyone figure out exactly what needs to be done for coding MDM retrofit?

What's this DSC calibration stuff about? Any information would be deeply appreciated
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bump from the dead- would love to inquire more about this as I am interested in doing this.
I went with the BPM retrofit a few months ago - http://www.bpmsport.com/products/ret...l?options=cart

Wanted MDM (went with Euro) for wet track days and it works perfect. Also tightens the steering in M mode Just went back for their stage II tune - good company to deal with.
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I went with the BPM retrofit a few months ago - http://www.bpmsport.com/products/ret...l?options=cart

Wanted MDM (went with Euro) for wet track days and it works perfect. Also tightens the steering in M mode Just went back for their stage II tune - good company to deal with.
I wonder if this MDM retrofit can be done in my base car with no iDrive or factory-installed driver's aids. I suppose I should just call BMP...
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I wonder if this MDM retrofit can be done in my base car with no iDrive or factory-installed driver's aids. I suppose I should just call BMP...
I do not have iDrive as well but would definitely give them a call or email with any questions - very helpful.
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      12-06-2018, 11:58 AM   #182
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I wonder if this MDM retrofit can be done in my base car with no iDrive or factory-installed driver's aids. I suppose I should just call BMP...
I think BPM did one in such a car. You will to change the steering column switch gear to one with the compatible szl module.
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I think BPM did one in such a car. You will to change the steering column switch gear to one with the compatible szl module.
Good info. Thanks. I just emailed BPM with questions and will post what I hear.
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I wonder if this MDM retrofit can be done in my base car with no iDrive or factory-installed driver's aids. I suppose I should just call BMP...
Yes it can. The only downside is that activating M-Drive also changes audio source. Nobody has figured out a way to deactivate the signal from the button in the stereo configuration.
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Yes it can. The only downside is that activating M-Drive also changes audio source. Nobody has figured out a way to deactivate the signal from the button in the stereo configuration.
Hmm. Something like this had occurred to me. Is that because you replace the audio source button on the steering wheel with the M button?

The mechanics of MDM in a base vehicle are still a little unclear to me. Ideal would be using the blank button on the center console where EDC would be if I had it. I'll see what the vendor has to say. I sent them my VIN.
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Hmm. Something like this had occurred to me. Is that because you replace the audio source button on the steering wheel with the M button?

The mechanics of MDM in a base vehicle are still a little unclear to me. Ideal would be using the blank button on the center console where EDC would be if I had it. I'll see what the vendor has to say. I sent them my VIN.
Yea, unfortunately there was never a solution found, and everyone kind of dismissed it and moved on. I actually tried fiddling with every possible coding option that could have been remotely related to that button to disable the stereo input from it, but nothing worked so I gave up as well and just lived with the triple tap to keep the same audio source while activating M-Drive. It became a basic habit at startup so I wasn't bothered after a while.
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Just got this reply from BPM: "Regarding the requirements, you would would need to purchase the retrofit ($1,049) and the coding cable ($100) to perform the coding remotely as you are out of the state.You would also have to purchase the Steering Wheel Buttons ($280) as this is an Non-iDrive vehicle. You also need a laptop with internet connection where the vehicle is located in order for us to perform the remote session."

I will now need to think through whether, for me, MDM is worthwhile at $1429. I would also likely have a professional perform the work, probably another $300.
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Seems expensive to me, but I don’t know what is in the retrofit kit.
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      12-06-2018, 09:13 PM   #189
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Seems expensive to me, but I don’t know what is in the retrofit kit.
It just comes with a brand new SZL module. I think I picked mine up used for ~$100.
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I bought my used steering switchgear and szl module for about $250 from an M3 on eBay a couple of years ago. I think some X5 switchgears work as well and are cheaper in the used market.
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Weird. My cousin's old non-iDrive M3 had M-Drive and never had issues with the audio source switching. Sounds like a coding issue for sure.

As for the clock spring, you need P/N 61319123060 or 61319179506
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Weird. My cousin's old non-iDrive M3 had M-Drive and never had issues with the audio source switching. Sounds like a coding issue for sure.

As for the clock spring, you need P/N 61319123060 or 61319179506
I'm guessing his came from factory with m-drive though? If not, I'd love to know how he got rid of the audio source connection.
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Weird. My cousin's old non-iDrive M3 had M-Drive and never had issues with the audio source switching. Sounds like a coding issue for sure.

As for the clock spring, you need P/N 61319123060 or 61319179506
I'm guessing his came from factory with m-drive though? If not, I'd love to know how he got rid of the audio source connection.
Yeah, stock. Code 2MDA to the VO and then recode the SZL, NFRM, CAS. That should do it.
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Given the cost and likely rare use in my DD, I will pass on the MDM retrofit. A better traction control investment for me right now: new tires.
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It’s worthwhile for $250 or so but not $1500.
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Yeah, stock. Code 2MDA to the VO and then recode the SZL, NFRM, CAS. That should do it.
It won't remove that button's link to audio source (in a retrofit). Even the vendors didn't figure out a way to.
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Yeah, stock. Code 2MDA to the VO and then recode the SZL, NFRM, CAS. That should do it.
It won't remove that button's link to audio source (in a retrofit). Even the vendors didn't figure out a way to.
That doesn't make any sense at all. I'll take a look at the button assemblies and wiring to see if there's any difference, but there shouldn't be. Something is missing from the coding, I really really doubt there is more hardware differences. I fail to see how that is possible considering how that gear functions. Unless there is a pinpout difference, too...
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That doesn't make any sense at all. I'll take a look at the button assemblies and wiring to see if there's any difference, but there shouldn't be. Something is missing from the coding, I really really doubt there is more hardware differences. I fail to see how that is possible considering how that gear functions. Unless there is a pinpout difference, too...
I agree and I can't believe nobody has figured it out. It wouldn't make any sense for any other hardware differences beyond the SZL, and the button assemblies are the same (aside from the labels on each button). My only guess is some coding or wiring input related to the stereo, but I'm not expert and tried several things with no luck.
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