VREDESTEIN Ultrac Sessanta?

Kdawgm3 · 12-17-2009, 07:14 AM

I think that maintaining the 20mm offset between front and back is the way to go.

Paddy · 12-17-2009, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BHairsto

FYI--this is where I ordered mine, and they ended up being significantly cheaper than Perdormance Plus:

http://www.groupawheels.com/

Don't know how you figured that, I priced 255/35/18 and 275/35/18 set on both sites..

performance tires: $696 +$63 shipping
GroupAWheels: $722 +$100 Shipping (to CA)

so $760 all in vs $822

Significantly cheaper would be $100-$200 cheaper for a full set IMO, not $30 more expensive (not including Shipping).
Maybe it depends on the particular size, so YMMV.

Update: even the 19's are $30+ cheaper at performance tire.

STALKER · 12-17-2009, 06:53 PM

Well after reading through this, I think Im gonna give these a try. I need them for my RAC wheels.

Where is the best place to get them from????
I need them delivered to Atlanta, GA.

Thanks.

foosh · 12-17-2009, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by STALKER

Well after reading through this, I think Im gonna give these a try. I need them for my RAC wheels.

Where is the best place to get them from????
I need them delivered to Atlanta, GA.

Thanks.

From the east coast, I think Group A wheels is best when you factor in shipping. From the west coast, Performance Plus is best. For my MD location, Group A had best price all things considered.

Group A charges a bit more, but the shipping costs from Performance Plus made them more expensive for me. I ordered back in Nov. from Group A and had them in 3 days.

Paddy · 12-17-2009, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by foosh

From the east coast, I think Group A wheels is best when you factor in shipping. From the west coast, Performance Plus is best. For my MD location, Group A had best price all things considered.

Group A charges a bit more, but the shipping costs from Performance Plus made them more expensive for me. I ordered back in Nov. from Group A and had them in 3 days.

Check the vredestein website and you may find a local dealer who may be able to match the PerformancePlus/GroupA prices.

There were several listed for San Diego area, one I called said they'd have to special order them at about $15/tire delivery charge.

foosh · 12-17-2009, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Paddy

Check the vredestein website and you may find a local dealer who may be able to match the PerformancePlus/GroupA prices.

There were several listed for San Diego area, one I called said they'd have to special order them at about $15/tire delivery charge.

I did, and I am on the opposite coast. Those who had them here were considerably more expensive, even when factoring in shipping, plus there is this little issue of state sales tax when you buy from other than from an internet vendor. It's usually about the same as shipping. Of course, if a local retailer throws in mounting and balance free, you have to consider that too.

All things considered, I was better off with Group A in my location. However, you have to do your own research.

STALKER · 12-17-2009, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by foosh

From the east coast, I think Group A wheels is best when you factor in shipping. From the west coast, Performance Plus is best. For my MD location, Group A had best price all things considered.

Group A charges a bit more, but the shipping costs from Performance Plus made them more expensive for me. I ordered back in Nov. from Group A and had them in 3 days.

Thanks for the info.

GregW / Oregon · 12-17-2009, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ZX6Rman

I needed new rear tires (almost worn and a nail in the left). The car was at the dealership for a car wash, I was quoted $550 per PS2 tire installed by them. I almost said go ahead, but I asked the parts guy if there are any other tires that I should consider. He's reply was, "no, you have to use PS2s because they are RAN FLATS and if you use non ran flats your TPM will not work"............ What a BS.
Needless to say, I said thanks but no thanks. I really thought that the dealer (and employees) suppose to know the cars they sell well enough to service/sell them. I guess I am wrong again.

I read the forum and found out about the Sessantas.
Made a few calls and found them in Long Beach (30 miles drive) for $200 each (total for 2 installed/tax was $478)
The 245/35/19 fronts are back-ordered so I ordered them online and I will get them next week. I am waiting (impatiently of course).

For less than the price of 2 PS2s I am getting 4 new Sessantas.

Since Sessantas don't come in our OEM rear tire size I went with 275/35/19 and not the 275/30/19 that other members have bought.

I found a tire size calculator online and plugged the numbers.
It looked like the 275/35/19 diameter is closer to the OEM tire so I decided to go with it.

I hope it makes sense.

ZX

"Ran Flats" - like that! Your decision is spot on; 35 section is the better choice, IMO.

aus · 12-17-2009, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by STALKER

Well after reading through this, I think Im gonna give these a try. I need them for my RAC wheels.

Where is the best place to get them from????
I need them delivered to Atlanta, GA.

Thanks.

Is the sky falling? I thought you were going AD08 or RE11's???

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Originally Posted by ZX6Rman

Thanks LBM and others for your info.

I needed new rear tires (almost worn and a nail in the left). The car was at the dealership for a car wash, I was quoted $550 per PS2 tire installed by them. I almost said go ahead, but I asked the parts guy if there are any other tires that I should consider. He's reply was, "no, you have to use PS2s because they are RAN FLATS and if you use non ran flats your TPM will not work"............ What a BS.
Needless to say, I said thanks but no thanks. I really thought that the dealer (and all employees) suppose to know the cars they sell well enough to service/sell them. I guess I am wrong again.

I read the forum and found out about the Sessantas.
Made a few calls and found them in Long Beach (30 miles drive) for $200 each (total for 2 installed/tax was $478)
The 245/35/19 fronts are back-ordered so I ordered them online and I will get them next week. I am waiting (impatiently of course).

For less than the price of 2 PS2s I am getting 4 new Sessantas.

Since Sessantas don't come in our OEM rear tire size I went with 275/35/19 and not the 275/30/19 that other members have bought.

I found a tire size calculator online and plugged the numbers.
It looked like the 275/35/19 diameter is closer to the OEM tire so I decided to go with it.

http://www.1010tires.com/tiresizecalculator.asp

I hope it makes sense.

Happy holidays y'all.
ZX

They'll take care of you at Performance Plus. They're all really cool to deal with. I've been going there for years.

They should mount my tires for free with all the sales they've had from the link I posted.

STALKER · 12-17-2009, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by aus

Is the sky falling? I thought you were going AD08 or RE11's???

They'll take care of you at Performance Plus. They're all really cool to deal with. I've been going there for years.

They should mount my tires for free with all the sales they've had from the link I posted.

The price is very attractive.
Im still a little worried that the sizes the AD08s come in will be too much tire for the car for daily use.
I might try these first then get the AD08s after. Another member here is going to have the AD08s soon, going to wait to get his review.

MrHarris · 12-18-2009, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by STALKER

The price is very attractive.
Im still a little worried that the sizes the AD08s come in will be too much tire for the car for daily use.
I might try these first then get the AD08s after. Another member here is going to have the AD08s soon, going to wait to get his review.

I got mine on. My god is this tire awesome. It's like worlds better than the PS2 in everything except tire impact noise (not so much tread noise, just when hitting bumps). The PS2 may be better against hydroplaning resistance, but as far as wet grip, this tire beats it very easily.

Ben335 · 12-18-2009, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MrHarris

I got mine on. My god is this tire awesome. It's like worlds better than the PS2 in everything except tire impact noise (not so much tread noise, just when hitting bumps). The PS2 may be better against hydroplaning resistance, but as far as wet grip, this tire beats it very easily.

The Sessantas or AD08s?

STALKER · 12-18-2009, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben335

The Sessantas or AD08s?

I believe he is running AD08s.

ersin · 12-18-2009, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ZX6Rman

... I almost said go ahead, but I asked the parts guy if there are any other tires that I should consider. He's reply was, "no, you have to use PS2s because they are RAN FLATS and if you use non ran flats your TPM will not work"............ What a BS.

Happy holidays y'all.
ZX

Oh, Lord. Was he a) ignorant or b) trying to get you part with your hard earned $$$ for the dealership? Either way, bad.

Cheers, and Happy Holidays everyone.

dandeker · 12-18-2009, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Paddy

What sizes would you guys recommend for stock 18's e90 M3.

They have the 245/40/18 for front but no matching 265/40/18 for the rear.

Thanks

Hi Paddy, did you get 18" Vred's? What size did you get?

Paddy · 12-19-2009, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dandeker

Hi Paddy, did you get 18" Vred's? What size did you get?

Didn't pull the trigger yet, but I will go for the 255/35/18 and 275/35/18.

Bluesummer · 12-19-2009, 09:56 PM

which vendor has the best price for them online? Can't find them on tirerack

aus · 12-19-2009, 10:12 PM

You're in the OC. Just got to Performance Plus in Long Beach. That's where everyone on the Western part of the country is getting them.

Alias · 12-26-2009, 07:19 PM

Just got dropped on Eibachs and finally im gonna get new tires (vreds).

hopefully I wont rub with 255/35/19 and 275/35/19

BoLaS · 12-31-2009, 12:07 PM

I think ADV.1 just picked them up as the performance gains on the tires are nuts, I already ordered a set of Sessanta's, can't wait to get them

aus · 01-04-2010, 12:53 AM

Just and FYI. These tires have a nice little trim piece that seems to be there solely as a bit of rim protection.

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MrHarris · 01-04-2010, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Alias

Just got dropped on Eibachs and finally im gonna get new tires (vreds).

hopefully I wont rub with 255/35/19 and 275/35/19

The front's maybe on full lock turning left. The rears will not be a problem at all, even in comfort mode.

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aus Major General 890 Rep 9,031 Posts Drives: Odysse Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seal Beach, CA iTrader: (10)	You're in the OC. Just got to Performance Plus in Long Beach. That's where everyone on the Western part of the country is getting them. __________________ Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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BoLaS Captain 33 Rep 664 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: MIA iTrader: (1)	I think ADV.1 just picked them up as the performance gains on the tires are nuts, I already ordered a set of Sessanta's, can't wait to get them __________________
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aus Major General 890 Rep 9,031 Posts Drives: Odysse Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seal Beach, CA iTrader: (10)	Just and FYI. These tires have a nice little trim piece that seems to be there solely as a bit of rim protection. . __________________ Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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