Blackstone oil analysis

rslavujevic · 01-15-2014, 02:13 AM

Hi all,

as I am waiting for a SC kit to arrive I've decided to take a oil sample on last change and send it to blackstone. Car has 20 xxx miles so far and I reached that following common break in and warm up guidelines with oil changes every 5k miles. So here is the result, cheers!

Irishace · 01-15-2014, 05:22 AM

Good looking sample, congrats on a healthy S65.

BobS · 01-15-2014, 05:42 AM

Nice! This should allow you to sleep better! I plan to do a analysis on the next oil change as well, it can't hurt.

regular guy · 01-15-2014, 11:23 AM

Keep in mind your 2013 does not use the older bearings containing lead and copper. So your oil analysis should not show any lead and copper. For signs of increased bearing wear, keep an eye on aluminum and tin on the 2013.

Leonardo629 · 01-15-2014, 02:55 PM

I thought it's only lead....copper can still be found in UOAs...

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Originally Posted by regular guy

Keep in mind your 2013 does not use the older bearings containing lead and copper. So your oil analysis should not show any lead and copper. For signs of increased bearing wear, keep an eye on aluminum and tin on the 2013.

regular guy · 01-15-2014, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonardo629

I thought it's only lead....copper can still be found in UOAs...

What has been observed is the original 088/089 bearings are a copper/lead content while the 702/703 bearings are of an aluminized tin/silicon compound.

Complete discussion of bearing history and compounds of each can be found here:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...71&postcount=7

Leonardo629 · 01-15-2014, 03:50 PM

RG, the bearing thread has information overload!! I can't wait until I rack up around 5,000 miles and do an UOA on M1 0W40 I'm currently running..I guess it's time to monitor aluminum level as well.

Then where's the copper from in rslavujevic's UOA?

rslavujevic · 01-16-2014, 12:11 AM

^ This

regular guy · 01-16-2014, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Leonardo629

RG, the bearing thread has information overload!! I can't wait until I rack up around 5,000 miles and do an UOA on M1 0W40 I'm currently running..I guess it's time to monitor aluminum level as well.

Then where's the copper from in rslavujevic's UOA?

I don't know the answer. Maybe Kawasaki00 does.

1MOREMOD · 01-16-2014, 10:27 AM

oem e46 m3 would be lead and copper correct. have track day this weekend then time to send in my sample.

thekurgan · 01-16-2014, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

oem e46 m3 would be lead and copper correct. have track day this weekend then time to send in my sample.

Yeah, I had several UOAs from the E46 and E86 showing lead, although not major amounts.

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Irishace ElevenPointFive 326 Rep 2,450 Posts Drives: E90 335 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Toronto iTrader: (1)	Good looking sample, congrats on a healthy S65. __________________ 2008 E90 335xi - N54 Daily Driver MHD Stage 2+ ~ CPE DPs ~ BMS Intake ~ AMS FMIC
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BobS Colonel 97 Rep 2,002 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Southern NJ iTrader: (0)	Nice! This should allow you to sleep better! I plan to do a analysis on the next oil change as well, it can't hurt. __________________ ESS 650 ACM-R Upgrades
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regular guy Lieutenant Colonel 427 Rep 1,947 Posts Drives: Sprint car Join Date: May 2013 Location: California iTrader: (0)	Keep in mind your 2013 does not use the older bearings containing lead and copper. So your oil analysis should not show any lead and copper. For signs of increased bearing wear, keep an eye on aluminum and tin on the 2013.
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Leonardo629 Lieutenant Colonel 168 Rep 1,792 Posts Drives: 2013 M3 Coupe Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Taiwan iTrader: (10)	RG, the bearing thread has information overload!! I can't wait until I rack up around 5,000 miles and do an UOA on M1 0W40 I'm currently running..I guess it's time to monitor aluminum level as well. Then where's the copper from in rslavujevic's UOA?
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1MOREMOD - 11817 Rep 23,187 Posts Drives: Race car-> Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: check your mirrors iTrader: (5)	oem e46 m3 would be lead and copper correct. have track day this weekend then time to send in my sample. __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC bars\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster\|Euro header\|BW exhaust\|K&N c.a.i.\|Epic race tune\|Rouge pulleys\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|apr gt 250 & splitter\|ST-40\|XR-2\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|BMWpedals\|BW studs\|
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