Eisenmann Race vs. Eisenmann Sport

[michelley91]

Originally Posted by sylonien

DCT? Any drone?

I just got the Akrapovic Evolution. Think its perfect for me.
Ticks all the boxes.

I have DCT and to be honest I feel like the drone went away when I put the test pipes on. Now the car just sounds really mean and you can hear the growl. Sounds very exotic.

[sylonien]

Hm... that's annoying that you reckon there is no drone :P lol
Always wanted a Eisenmann Race but don't want to spend ££££ on something
that may drone.

Ah well, got my Akra now. Maybe I can finally rest in peace on the exhaust subject. Maybe.

[W///]

Originally Posted by sylonien

Hm... that's annoying that you reckon there is no drone :P lol
Always wanted a Eisenmann Race but don't want to spend ££££ on something
that may drone.

Ah well, got my Akra now. Maybe I can finally rest in peace on the exhaust subject. Maybe.

Didn't you have OEM mod and test pipes at one point? TP + E.race is nowhere near that level of drone, not even close.

[sylonien]

Originally Posted by W///

Didn't you have OEM mod and test pipes at one point? TP + E.race is nowhere near that level of drone, not even close.

In 12 months I had 2 M3s.
In that space of time I went from...

• Stock
• Secondary cat & resonator delete + OEM Mod
• Secondary cat & resonator delete + Supersprint Race
• Secondary cat & resonator delete + OEM muffler
• Stock
• Test Pipe + OEM muffler <- installed for 2 weeks, sold again, got offered...
• Akrapovic Evolution

So TP reduces the Eisenmann Race drone?

[MTrezzz]

I have a Eisenmann Race Black series and to be honest i love it way to much; but a few people told me that the ACM mod with the OEM muffler is the same basic theory because it is an empty muffler with no baffles.
Did anybody here go from Eisenmann or another aftermarket company to a ACM mod?

Does the ACM mod sound aggressive? like the Eisemann?

[W///]

Originally Posted by sylonien

In 12 months I had 2 M3s.
In that space of time I went from...

• Stock
• Secondary cat & resonator delete + OEM Mod
• Secondary cat & resonator delete + Supersprint Race
• Secondary cat & resonator delete + OEM muffler
• Stock
• Test Pipe + OEM muffler <- installed for 2 weeks, sold again, got offered...
• Akrapovic Evolution

So TP reduces the Eisenmann Race drone?

I don't know, because I already had TP when I installed the E.Race. If you remember, TP but ACM mod (which I think you had) was very loud. And that IMO, droned. I don't have anywhere near that kind of level of annoyance.

Originally Posted by MTrezzz

I have a Eisenmann Race Black series and to be honest i love it way to much; but a few people told me that the ACM mod with the OEM muffler is the same basic theory because it is an empty muffler with no baffles.
Did anybody here go from Eisenmann or another aftermarket company to a ACM mod?

Does the ACM mod sound aggressive? like the Eisemann?

The ACM mod for a muffler only sounds AMAZING, one of the best IMHO. But with TP, it's just a whole bunch of sound, but not that great quality. The rasp is pretty bad at 3k, almost sounds like a damn E46.

I went from ACM Mod + TP to full catless + Eisenmann Race. You couldn't pay me to go with another setup, this is by far my favorite. Completely civil at cruising speed on the inside (great sporty sound outside), a beast when driven aggressively. But unlike ACM mod + TP, it's good quality sound.

So this is my comparison:
Would you rather have 10 lbs of Mcdonald's, or 5 lbs of ribeye?

[kawasaki00]

Originally Posted by W///

I don't know, because I already had TP when I installed the E.Race. If you remember, TP but ACM mod (which I think you had) was very loud. And that IMO, droned. I don't have anywhere near that kind of level of annoyance.



The ACM mod for a muffler only sounds AMAZING, one of the best IMHO. But with TP, it's just a whole bunch of sound, but not that great quality. The rasp is pretty bad at 3k, almost sounds like a damn E46.

I went from ACM Mod + TP to full catless + Eisenmann Race. You couldn't pay me to go with another setup, this is by far my favorite. Completely civil at cruising speed on the inside (great sporty sound outside), a beast when driven aggressively. But unlike ACM mod + TP, it's good quality sound.

So this is my comparison:
Would you rather have 10 lbs of Mcdonald's, or 5 lbs of ribeye?

I will agree with your tp findings. A buddie in Columbia has Eisenmann Race and AA x pipe and it really does not drone, it is loud nut no drone. My Megan with TP drone more just not as loud.

[MTrezzz]

What if it was no test pipes a Muffler vs Muffler type of deal.
Eisenmann Black Series Race + connecting pipes
or
ACM Muffler Blacked out with 80MM EAS tips

I have the EIsenmann now and love it, do you guys think the ACM is cheap and cheesy ??

[W///]

Originally Posted by MTrezzz

What if it was no test pipes a Muffler vs Muffler type of deal.
Eisenmann Black Series Race + connecting pipes
or
ACM Muffler Blacked out with 80MM EAS tips

I have the EIsenmann now and love it, do you guys think the ACM is cheap and cheesy ??

I don't see why you'd go that direction since you've already spent that $$ on the Eisenmann. If I were you and wanted a little more volume, delete secondary car and resonator.

If you were starting from scratch, I'd tell you to go ACM all day. But since you already have E.Race, I'm not so sure.

[Bavarian Beast]

I have had the e.race, but don't see anyone comparing the corsas. How do those compare to these? Any setup people care to comment on as a comparison....

[sylonien]

The OEM mod with any alteration to the xpipe is just loud, shouty and raspy.
Mega loud - yes, but the to me it sounded horrible. Didn't have any drone,
but no bass either. Just lots of high end treble shouting.

Very unrefined sound.

I say the Eisenmann Race sounds completely different,
or any other proper exhausts.

[IzzyGray]

Originally Posted by Bavarian Beast

I have had the e.race, but don't see anyone comparing the corsas. How do those compare to these? Any setup people care to comment on as a comparison....

I have the Corsa with Challenge Race X pipe but I've not had the E.race/sport so it's hard to compare. Mine mildly drones at 2k and 3k and passengers have said something about it. I've been able to minimize it by filling up the trunk with stuff. In fact, Christmas trip up north had zero drone with the trunk fully loaded up.

As far as sound goes, it's the right mix of what I was looking for. It reminds me of a F1 car actually. It's slightly higher pitched but rumbles at idle and taking off. Overall I'm very pleased.