Apple CarPlay/Android Auto Retrofit

derbo · 08-02-2019, 09:56 AM

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Actually spent a few minutes last night trying the Bluetooth streaming audio option and it worked pretty well. High quality sound with bass restored. I might just go with this for the time being.

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My feeling as well in the brief time I got to try it. Completely solved the flat bass while retaining the functionality and control offered by CarPlay.

Sadly, I don't have a Combox so this option is not available to me. I bought the ACP so I didn't have to ugprade both to combox and ACP.

You lose navigation voice if you use this work around correct?

Rid3r · 08-02-2019, 09:59 AM

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I'll spend a bit more time working out the ins and outs of these various configs when I get home in a week.

Also just did the iOS 13 dev beta 5 update, curious whether that has an effect on my auto connection issue.

Actually spent a few minutes last night trying the Bluetooth streaming audio option and it worked pretty well. High quality sound with bass restored. I might just go with this for the time being.

Can you share some details? How will this work and still retain sound coming from waze, and other Siri notifications?

Rid3r · 08-02-2019, 10:01 AM

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I want to buy one of these boxes for testing but I don't have a CIC. I would chop the aftermarket mic off and solder in a 3 pin connector for the OEM mic in the roof module. Then I would grab another CD changer emulator box and wire in the aux for the carplay box into the emulator. Thus having a 100% clean install.

Normally with the car systems adapters they provide switched power for the rvc. Does the carplay box provide power for the rvc as well?

This sounds like a great idea for the OE mic. I might just buy a new mic to add to the passenger side.

If the issue is before the AUX line like the DAC, I think you will run into garbage in, garbage no matter how clean the output setup is.

I have spare oem mic lying around if someone can guide me towards what needs to be done I'd by happy to test it.

derbo · 08-02-2019, 11:18 AM

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I have spare oem mic lying around if someone can guide me towards what needs to be done I'd by happy to test it.

https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/e...ration/abYskSW

Mic has a positive and a negative. That's pretty much it.

PACarGuy · 08-02-2019, 12:29 PM

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Can you share some details? How will this work and still retain sound coming from waze, and other Siri notifications?

I just went into "TEL" and enabled Bluetooth Audio for my phone (which I thought I had done already, but oh well), and then from the Main menu, selected CD/Multimedia and selected my iPhone as the external source. From then on, when I switched over to Carplay mode, all sounds from carplay apps came through the bluetooth connection. Essentially, the carplay emulator is just a video feed at that point.

derbo · 08-02-2019, 12:31 PM

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I just went into "TEL" and enabled Bluetooth Audio for my phone (which I thought I had done already, but oh well), and then from the Main menu, selected CD/Multimedia and selected my iPhone as the external source. From then on, when I switched over to Carplay mode, all sounds from carplay apps came through the bluetooth connection. Essentially, the carplay emulator is just a video feed at that point.

Ugh, this sounds like I need a combox. lol

PACarGuy · 08-02-2019, 12:32 PM

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I just went into "TEL" and enabled Bluetooth Audio for my phone (which I thought I had done already, but oh well), and then from the Main menu, selected CD/Multimedia and selected my iPhone as the external source. From then on, when I switched over to Carplay mode, all sounds from carplay apps came through the bluetooth connection. Essentially, the carplay emulator is just a video feed at that point.

Ugh, this sounds like I need a combox. lol

Lol. Probably.

Nickco43 · 08-02-2019, 02:00 PM

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This sounds like a great idea for the OE mic. I might just buy a new mic to add to the passenger side.

If the issue is before the AUX line like the DAC, I think you will run into garbage in, garbage no matter how clean the output setup is.

I wonder if you could solder on a new dac?

Nickco43 · 08-02-2019, 02:01 PM

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Confused by your post, if you don't have CIC, do you have iDrive at all?

The stock install is very clean, nothing at all visible from the outside, not sure how chopping up connectors is going to improve that.

I diyed a NBT Evo.

derbo · 08-02-2019, 02:30 PM

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I wonder if you could solder on a new dac?

That's the assumption the DAC is the issue. It's possible the digital out from the module itself is crappy too.

I can't imagine a DAC set to do a high pass filter and only convert the upper frequencies. It definitely sounds like the Digital output might be suffering too. But that's my bullshit guess.

Nickco43 · 08-02-2019, 03:05 PM

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That's the assumption the DAC is the issue. It's possible the digital out from the module itself is crappy too.

I can't imagine a DAC set to do a high pass filter and only convert the upper frequencies. It definitely sounds like the Digital output might be suffering too. But that's my bullshit guess.

I wonder why they could not make a car play box that just plugged into the most bus.

yuyuyuyu · 08-02-2019, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PACarGuy

I just went into "TEL" and enabled Bluetooth Audio for my phone (which I thought I had done already, but oh well), and then from the Main menu, selected CD/Multimedia and selected my iPhone as the external source. From then on, when I switched over to Carplay mode, all sounds from carplay apps came through the bluetooth connection. Essentially, the carplay emulator is just a video feed at that point.

Through my combox, I can only get audio from my music apps. I don't hear anything from Waze. Is that the case for you as well or are you saying all your apps sound is going through bluetooth now?

derbo · 08-02-2019, 03:35 PM

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I wonder why they could not make a car play box that just plugged into the most bus.

That would've made this way more plug n play. If a new one comes out that does this, I'm freaking in!

Nickco43 · 08-02-2019, 06:46 PM

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That would've made this way more plug n play. If a new one comes out that does this, I'm freaking in!

Someone on the E9x Discord group chat said they would buy one from me if I bought one and played with it. I might pick one up and see if you could solder in a new dac. Does anyone want to pop open their box and take pictures of the PCB?

PACarGuy · 08-02-2019, 09:55 PM

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Through my combox, I can only get audio from my music apps. I don't hear anything from Waze. Is that the case for you as well or are you saying all your apps sound is going through bluetooth now?

Siri and voice text seemed to work but I didn't really try Waze over BT yet. Will report back when I use it next.

derbo · 08-04-2019, 09:33 PM

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That would've made this way more plug n play. If a new one comes out that does this, I'm freaking in!

Someone on the E9x Discord group chat said they would buy one from me if I bought one and played with it. I might pick one up and see if you could solder in a new dac. Does anyone want to pop open their box and take pictures of the PCB?

when I have time Nick, I'll take it apart. Maybe next weekend?

Nickco43 · 08-04-2019, 10:09 PM

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when I have time Nick, I'll take it apart. Maybe next weekend?

Take your time, no rush.

derbo · 08-04-2019, 10:11 PM

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when I have time Nick, I'll take it apart. Maybe next weekend?

Take your time, no rush.

I happen to have JoyeAuto wired version with me as well. It is basically a Limcet device as well.

PACarGuy · 08-05-2019, 10:08 AM

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Siri and voice text seemed to work but I didn't really try Waze over BT yet. Will report back when I use it next.

Tried it this morning on the way to work and I didn't hear anything from Waze either. Waze app on my phone shows the Bluetooth logo and the BMW bluetooth connection as active, so not quite sure why it's not working, but it's a bummer. Audio apps and Siri, voice texting, etc. work though.

derbo · 08-06-2019, 03:41 PM

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Tried it this morning on the way to work and I didn't hear anything from Waze either. Waze app on my phone shows the Bluetooth logo and the BMW bluetooth connection as active, so not quite sure why it's not working, but it's a bummer. Audio apps and Siri, voice texting, etc. work though.

I figured this is what would happen.