Double hump to single hump conversion?

nrubenstein · 10-15-2020, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by akkando

I think a bunch of them replace the screen with a higher res touch screen. Why would you need you phone mounted? I don't have this set up but I can't imagine why you have to mount a phone to the dash to use carplay. I've never seen anyone mount a phone to the dash to use carplay.

1) Can you comfortably reach the navigation screen in an E9x while driving?

I mean, it's possible, but it's going to be awkward as hell.

2) Have you used CarPlay through a non-touch interface?

I've used BMW and Audi CarPlay a decent bit. (MY2019 and 2020 loaners/rentals.) CarPlay through idrive style controllers is incredibly clunky.

3) CarPlay hides notifications. No thanks. That's not helpful.

tigermack · 10-15-2020, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by New2Roundel

Yup. My thought as well.

Minimum $30k for a spec (zcp sedan, slicktop, manual, LB, speed cloth, single hump) I want, sorry I am not rich like you guys to get another E90M because of a dash.

akkando · 10-15-2020, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by nrubenstein

1) Can you comfortably reach the navigation screen in an E9x while driving?

I mean, it's possible, but it's going to be awkward as hell.

2) Have you used CarPlay through a non-touch interface?

I've used BMW and Audi CarPlay a decent bit. (MY2019 and 2020 loaners/rentals.) CarPlay through idrive style controllers is incredibly clunky.

3) CarPlay hides notifications. No thanks. That's not helpful.

That's a good point that a touch screen in an e9X would be a pain in the ass. Here is a demo of one working. The iDrive wheel is probably better.

pyhee · 10-15-2020, 09:36 PM

FYI, some guys with single hump but no M-Drive are having difficulties on retrofitting the MDM. I guess that iDrive is essential for the MDM? Please be careful not to lose your M-Drive function.

tigermack · 10-15-2020, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by pyhee

FYI, some guys with single hump but no M-Drive are having difficulties on retrofitting the MDM. I guess that iDrive is essential for the MDM? Please be careful not to lose your M-Drive function.

That's not good. Do you have a link to the thread? Thanks!

MJBO · 10-15-2020, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by nrubenstein

Still doesn't avoid needing the phone mounted on the dash. Carplay is deliberately crippled and will never not be crippled.

...and using CarPlay without a touch screen is pain.

Haven’t had any issues using CarPlay through the iDrive controller. Mostly using the controller in our new X3 for CP too.

nrubenstein · 10-16-2020, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by pyhee

FYI, some guys with single hump but no M-Drive are having difficulties on retrofitting the MDM. I guess that iDrive is essential for the MDM? Please be careful not to lose your M-Drive function.

iDrive is required to modify MDM configurations. iDrive is NOT required to have MDM. I believe that you can manually code different MDM configurations, but that only matters if you have EDC.

Mine is a factory no-NAV, MDM car. Euro MDM is is where it's at.

tigermack · 10-16-2020, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by nrubenstein

iDrive is required to modify MDM configurations. iDrive is NOT required to have MDM. I believe that you can manually code different MDM configurations, but that only matters if you have EDC.

Mine is a factory no-NAV, MDM car. Euro MDM is is where it's at.

That's what I currently have, euro MDM, coded by Alpinemss.

Yea Boi · 10-23-2020, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by pyhee

FYI, some guys with single hump but no M-Drive are having difficulties on retrofitting the MDM. I guess that iDrive is essential for the MDM? Please be careful not to lose your M-Drive function.

Correct me if I’m wrong but I think the “no I drive” guys who are retrofitting mdm on there cars are having a problem with the radio settings on there car where it changes source every time you press the “m button” on steering wheel. Small issue in my opinion, but of course a little annoying. They report that everything else works fine though.

nrubenstein · 10-23-2020, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by M3pnoy

Correct me if I’m wrong but I think the “no I drive” guys who are retrofitting mdm on there cars are having a problem with the radio settings on there car where it changes source every time you press the “m button” on steering wheel. Small issue in my opinion, but of course a little annoying. They report that everything else works fine though.

That's a coding issue. A factory no idrive MDM car doesn't do that. (Although I have been having that issue since the "self-coding" mobridge enabled itself.

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Yea Boi · 10-23-2020, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by nrubenstein

That's a coding issue. A factory no idrive MDM car doesn't do that. (Although I have been having that issue since the "self-coding" mobridge enabled itself.

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Ok, in my case, I currently have IDrive, Navi, MDM, EDC from the factory. I am trying to retrofit into my car single hump, no idrive. Do you think i will encounter this problem with the M button on steering wheel? Because i am reading the the GTS works perfectly fine, no idrive and mdm from factory.

Yea Boi · 03-15-2021, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by IB M

A good time to make that swap would be if the dash was coming out anyway to fix the evaporator coils or something similar.

Good luck and sub'd for pics before, during and after if you make the swap.

Good call on the A/C evaporator when i did the dash swap it needed to be replaced and my car only had 35k miles on it. So far so good on the swap i believe, I believe mdm and edc still work. Only thing i need to figure out is the M button on steering wheel as it is now a source button for radio.

911r · 03-15-2021, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by e46IX

Any worthwhile weight savings from going to single hump?

Maybe 10-15lbs?

Jet335i · 03-19-2021, 08:12 AM

considered going single hump, but having the Android/Apple carplay unit integrated into single-hump? I was considering going that route as I also have double hump CIC and wanted a cleaner look

nrubenstein · 03-19-2021, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jet335i

considered going single hump, but having the Android/Apple carplay unit integrated into single-hump? I was considering going that route as I also have double hump CIC and wanted a cleaner look

The below the line head units are even worse than the hump. The "cut a hole in the dash" head units don't look better than the hump, and then you've really butchered the car.

I hate looking at NAV, but I would not do that.

tigermack · 03-22-2021, 10:58 AM

^ same, if you're doing that, might as well just leave it.

RobsgottaM3 · 05-25-2022, 12:49 AM

Did anyone ever get this done and fix all the MDM and M Button issues?

boba-fett · 05-25-2022, 02:30 AM

There seems to be quite a thirst to go single hump in the US, something not happening in the UK, whats the rationale behind it, as these cars get older, OEM and originality becomes more important, and whats wrong with the double hump and the nice screen?

MP0W3RD · 05-25-2022, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by boba-fett

There seems to be quite a thirst to go single hump in the US, something not happening in the UK, whats the rationale behind it, as these cars get older, OEM and originality becomes more important, and whats wrong with the double hump and the nice screen?

It's not that anything is "wrong" with it per se…but the single hump interior will age more gracefully and never feel dated by older technology, hence the increased desirability.

Once they switched to idrive 4, things improved, but anything older than idrive 5 feels prehistoric by modern infotainment standards.

amrazM · 05-25-2022, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by boba-fett

There seems to be quite a thirst to go single hump in the US, something not happening in the UK, whats the rationale behind it, as these cars get older, OEM and originality becomes more important, and whats wrong with the double hump and the nice screen?

This trend is retarded,

I retrofitted NBT Evo into my M3 and its on par with all the technology I need including front/rear cameras, carplay, VIM, etc.

I have no idea why anyone would want a flat dash, i've had several E90s with no idrive and its not that good. I would take a car with CCC over a car with no idrive.

boba-fett · 05-25-2022, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by amrazM

This trend is retarded,

I retrofitted NBT Evo into my M3 and its on par with all the technology I need including front/rear cameras, carplay, VIM, etc.

I have no idea why anyone would want a flat dash, i've had several E90s with no idrive and its not that good. I would take a car with CCC over a car with no idrive.

I have to agree, I would not buy an M3 without the Sat Nav system it looks much better! Mine has the CIC and Individual Audio and it all works just fine!

911r · 05-25-2022, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by amrazM

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Originally Posted by boba-fett

There seems to be quite a thirst to go single hump in the US, something not happening in the UK, whats the rationale behind it, as these cars get older, OEM and originality becomes more important, and whats wrong with the double hump and the nice screen?

This trend is retarded,

I retrofitted NBT Evo into my M3 and its on par with all the technology I need including front/rear cameras, carplay, VIM, etc.

I have no idea why anyone would want a flat dash, i've had several E90s with no idrive and its not that good. I would take a car with CCC over a car with no idrive.

How much was the NBT Evo retrofit?

Singlehump is considerably cheaper.

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