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12-01-2009, 07:04 PM | #45 |
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Nice find man! Great read!
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12-02-2009, 01:35 AM | #47 |
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Well that is technically correct but not practically correct. Flat torque produces linear power (hp = T x rpm/5252 in US customary units). So if you call flat linear that is technically correct but not practically. The reason it is not practically correct because folks are used to a linear or roughly linear (non zero slope of course) power curve, so also calling the torque linear confuses the issue.
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12-02-2009, 03:42 AM | #51 |
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They should have included a C63 in that comparison. I'd like to see how it would stack up in terms of getting sideways.
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12-02-2009, 06:05 AM | #52 |
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12-02-2009, 08:33 AM | #53 | |
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12-02-2009, 09:08 AM | #55 |
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They got the wheel/tire size wrong in the article. The M3 is clearly wearing 19's, not 18's
"Like a Formula 1 engine, the M3’s 4.0-liter V-8 delivers the bulk of its 414 bhp high on the tach. Not exactly ideal for drifting, but good enough to get the 265/40ZR-18 rear tires loose in most situations." |
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12-02-2009, 10:14 AM | #56 | |
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12-02-2009, 10:36 AM | #57 |
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Good newsss!!
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12-02-2009, 11:15 AM | #59 | |
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In this case, though, I think the mods kinda botched it as the other topic I pointed out was probably more appropriate as a general discussion of the article, while yours seems to be more of specifically with regard to the current long drawn out thread (and tired debate) regarding M3 low end torque. Realistically, if all responses were to be in keeping with your intent, I don't think it makes sense for this particular thread to be the one that goes on the front page. That's just MHO though. Maybe they'll just merge them. |
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12-02-2009, 12:58 PM | #60 | |
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This thread is about a positive award that is being turned into a "data point" into the M3's engine being the "achilles heel" of the car. Which is totally preposterous. Someone should go on the Ferrari boards and complain that they have to rev the 360. Boohoo! Oh noes! Laughable. |
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12-02-2009, 01:37 PM | #61 |
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Don't shoot the messenger.
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12-02-2009, 01:45 PM | #62 | |
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Heck, even a $220+ K F430 puts out a measly 195 ft-lbs of wheel torque at 4500 rpm. |
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12-02-2009, 01:50 PM | #63 |
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The C63 is a complete animal. A tap of the throttle and you'll lose traction and go veering off into the trees.
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12-02-2009, 01:51 PM | #65 |
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Good man. Get a C63. It has GOBS of torque and a Mountain of horsepower. It doesn't have the balance of the M though,although pretty close.
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12-02-2009, 01:58 PM | #66 |
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450 lbs extra lard to tow too....
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