Bilstein B16 Damptronic Review on Road and Track.

[TechE]

[QUOTE=ABC99G;26733364]

Originally Posted by 6ixSpd

Do you have a photo of the connectors they gave you?

Hi, as it turns out the connectors are correct, but in my car they are hidden
behind the side seat cushion under the seat belt.
To get to them I need to remove the seat cushion.
Do you know how to remove this?
Also, I noticed that the Bilstein plugs can be connected either way.
Is polarity an issue?
I have connected mine by cutting and joining wires but it still does not work.
Does the error code need to be cleared first?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Gerry

The rear seat ends use a clip to hold in place. It's simple as a firm yank from the top.

The plugs only connect one way. There is no cutting or splicing required.. Everything included is OEM fit.

You shouldn't have any error codes. My guess is your custom wire work triggered that.

No offense, but you probably should have researched this before going all rogue, or just paid somebody to do it. This is an expensive kit to be tinkering around on. Hope your hardware install went a bit more smoothly.

[ABC99G]

Mine were the same as your photo for the front. The problem I had was in the rear. I thought the connector should plug into the wire that comes out of the top of the shock. I couldn't find the plugs where it was supposed to go because mine were in behind the fixed seat cushion in the corner.
I've since worked it out so I just need to get the error coded out.
I'm very happy with the result though.

[ABC99G]

[QUOTE=E.Usaf;26759413]

Originally Posted by ABC99G

The rear seat ends use a clip to hold in place. It's simple as a firm yank from the top.

The plugs only connect one way. There is no cutting or splicing required.. Everything included is OEM fit.

You shouldn't have any error codes. My guess is your custom wire work triggered that.

No offense, but you probably should have researched this before going all rogue, or just paid somebody to do it. This is an expensive kit to be tinkering around on. Hope your hardware install went a bit more smoothly.

I did pay my mechanic to do it, but you are correct, I should have researched it myself. However, I have since found a photo showing the connector going in the opposite direction to mine so this added to my confusion. Hopefully all will be OK once I get the error coded out. Hardware fit went without any problems.

[TrickTizzle]

Did these come with bump stops? If not, what are you using, if any?
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Also, what rear shock mounts did you decide to go with?

I'll be getting mine installed in a few weeks. Collecting some complimentary suspension components right now.

Originally Posted by DanMpower

Awesome review man!

Now I just need to find a set...

Originally Posted by DanMpower

BayE30, sell me your B16 setup.

Turner shows them in stock for any one looking to grab a set.

[DanMpower]

Originally Posted by TrickTizzle

Did these come with bump stops? If not, what are you using, if any?
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Also, what rear shock mounts did you decide to go with?

I'll be getting mine installed in a few weeks. Collecting some complimentary suspension components right now.






Turner shows them in stock for any one looking to grab a set.

Summit Racing and a few other places are showing in stock as well.

Just placed my order with AJUSA over the weekend, $2707 after coupon + tax, and free shipping!

[Cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by DanMpower

Summit Racing and a few other places are showing in stock as well.

Just placed my order with AJUSA over the weekend, $2707 after coupon + tax, and free shipping!

Not a bad price, but they're still backordered by 3 months or so right? I guess it goes "good fast cheap pick two"

[tdott]

Originally Posted by TrickTizzle

Did these come with bump stops?

They have internal bump stops, it says so in the manual and tells you not to reuse the original.

Read the instruction manual, it's pretty detailed.

[TrickTizzle]

Originally Posted by tdott

They have internal bump stops, it says so in the manual and tells you not to reuse the original.

Read the instruction manual, it's pretty detailed.

Thanks. I've yet to open the box.

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Which rear upper shock mounts are y'all running?

[Yea Boi]

Hi, im in the middle of my install and just need a little clarification as to why there were 2 19mm nuts provided for the rear bilstein shocks. Can someone tell me if we use these 2 nuts instead of the 22mm oem?

[M4_GTS]

Originally Posted by M3pnoy

Hi, im in the middle of my install and just need a little clarification as to why there were 2 19mm nuts provided for the rear bilstein shocks. Can someone tell me if we use these 2 nuts instead of the 22mm oem?

Read the instruction and follow the diagram. Tells you right there to use the 2 19mm instead of the 1 22mm.

[Yea Boi]

Originally Posted by M4_GTS

Read the instruction and follow the diagram. Tells you right there to use the 2 19mm instead of the 1 22mm.

Maybe I got a different diagram, unless the one nut, labeled ‘B’ for bilstein provided equals 2 19mm nut. Thank you though for clarifying, maybe I’m looking into it too much.

[M4_GTS]

Originally Posted by M3pnoy

Maybe I got a different diagram, unless the one nut, labeled ‘B’ for bilstein provided equals 2 19mm nut. Thank you though for clarifying, maybe I’m looking into it too much.

Bilstein at it again with their packaging. You got the diagram for the non-edc B16 PSS10 kit. That diagram shows the top adjuster for dampening which we don't have.

Use 2 of the 19mm nuts. It's to prevent it from backing off. The oem nut is the wrong size for the Bilstein shock shaft.

Which pigtail did they include in your kit? The old style or the new style?

[Yea Boi]

Originally Posted by M4_GTS

Bilstein at it again with their packaging. You got the diagram for the non-edc B16 PSS10 kit. That diagram shows the top adjuster for dampening which we don't have.

Use 2 of the 19mm nuts. It's to prevent it from backing off. The oem nut is the wrong size for the Bilstein shock shaft.

Which pigtail did they include in your kit? The old style or the new style?

For the fronts, old style, but rears it’s plug and play. Thank you for clarifying, I figured looking at the diagram that it was for non-edc but I didn’t want to assume.

[M4_GTS]

Originally Posted by M3pnoy

For the fronts, old style, but rears it’s plug and play. Thank you for clarifying, I figured looking at the diagram that it was for non-edc but I didn’t want to assume.

Bilstein is just absolutely horrible with how they put kits together. Its always the mix and match parts. They throw in whatever they have left in the parts bin when they run out of parts. I wouldnt be very happy getting the old connectors for the front. Makes for a messy looking install.

[6ixSpd]

The instructions cover both B16 PSS10 and B16 Damptronic. You're looking at the wrong diagram. Each page has it labelled up top right whether its "B16" or "Damptronic."

Originally Posted by M3pnoy

Maybe I got a different diagram, unless the one nut, labeled ‘B’ for bilstein provided equals 2 19mm nut. Thank you though for clarifying, maybe I’m looking into it too much.

https://productdesk.cart.bilsteinus....M4-Y611A00.pdf Page 27, not 26.

[Yea Boi]

Originally Posted by 6ixSpd

The instructions cover both B16 PSS10 and B16 Damptronic. You're looking at the wrong diagram. Each page has it labelled up top right whether its "B16" or "Damptronic."



https://productdesk.cart.bilsteinus....M4-Y611A00.pdf Page 27, not 26.

They didnt include the last page in my instructions but thanks for including the link.

[6ixSpd]

Originally Posted by M3pnoy

They didnt include the last page in my instructions but thanks for including the link.

Oh man... even the ones they sent me were all over the place and out of order. Thankfully I hunted down that PDF well in advance of my install and didn't use the printed ones.

[Yea Boi]

Originally Posted by 6ixSpd

Oh man... even the ones they sent me were all over the place and out of order. Thankfully I hunted down that PDF well in advance of my install and didn't use the printed ones.

Looking over your link with the instructions, was there a reason why you didnt re-use the spring pad? Did GC tell you not too?

[6ixSpd]

Originally Posted by M3pnoy

Looking over your link with the instructions, was there a reason why you didnt re-use the spring pad? Did GC tell you not too?

It does not fit with the GC plate design and is unnecessary.

[wootloops]

6ixSpd

I just installed B16 coilovers with Ground Control street camber plates like yours. I am also at 1.5 threads front and 9 rear. However, my car seems to sit way higher that yours both front and rear.

What tire size are you running? I have 265/35r18 on 18x10 +25 EC7s. Are you running something that fills in the fenders more?

The only thing I can think of is that I kept the rubber spring pad (it fit into the GC plates no problem) but that cant be more than 1/8" thick or so. Even still, that doesn't explain the rear also being way higher.

Pic for comparison - Just installed last night and aligned this morning.

[6ixSpd]

That doesn't seem right at all, the spring pad can definitely add a couple millimeters to your stack height though. Exactly which plates do you have? I believe there's a different type of lower profile bushing that you can use up top that reduces the stack height. I would speak to ground control and see what two different bushing options they have for OEM type upper mount setups. I can't recall if I kept my lower spring pads in the rear. I'll check once the car is out of storage.

My BBS LM setup runs the exact same rolling diameter as stock so my height suggestions should be the same for any car keeping to the stock rolling diameter.

Your 265/35/18 is a big factor. That tire and wheel setup is almost an inch shorter in overall diameter, thus you have an arch gap increase of 5.7mm front and 12.7mm rear. The spring pad plus this would definitely explain your ride height differences vs. mine.

[wootloops]

Originally Posted by 6ixSpd

That doesn't seem right at all, the spring pad can definitely add a couple millimeters to your stack height though. Exactly which plates do you have? I believe there's a different type of lower profile bushing that you can use up top that reduces the stack height. I would speak to ground control and see what two different bushing options they have for OEM type upper mount setups. I can't recall if I kept my lower spring pads in the rear. I'll check once the car is out of storage.

My BBS LM setup runs the exact same rolling diameter as stock so my height suggestions should be the same for any car keeping to the stock rolling diameter.

Your 265/35/18 is a big factor. That tire and wheel setup is almost an inch shorter in overall diameter, thus you have an arch gap increase of 5.7mm front and 12.7mm rear. The spring pad plus this would definitely explain your ride height differences vs. mine.

Ok, that explains a bit.

I have these plates: https://groundcontrolstore.com/colle...t-camber-plate

Maybe the best move is to switch out the GC front plates for the shorter version, which will drop the front a bit. Then I can adjust the rear lower since it still has about 9 threads to go.

Realistically I'll probably leave it as-is for now, but at least I have a better idea as to why it looks so much different than yours.