Convertible looks better than Coupe?

[DragonNeo]

Originally Posted by Poleposition

My thoughts too. If it's not a real M3, why is it priced like one?

I personally hate my fake M3 ONLY because its a convertible. It's SOO much slower than M3 coupes. Its even slower than 335 coupes. I really feel the 400 pound weight difference every god damn time I drive the thing. Im disgusted over it. It looks like crap. Drives like crap. WTF was I thinking???

[James T. Kirk]

The point is dead when you factor in the CF roof. Nothing looks sportier than that.

I bought the sedan with moonroof as the best-balanced daily driver.

A convertible would be my LAST choice. I had the E46 M3 convertible and it was a contradiction in design from the very start. All the muscle of a M3 with none of the sensibility of light weight design.

If you're inclined to have a convertible, your priority is clearly not performance.

[DragonNeo]

Originally Posted by ersin

LOL. I was referring to your wording. Where did weight come in?


Cheers.

I was referring to another poster who mentioned weight.

Yeah, I know, my wording sounds like I was smoking something, the only thing is I wasn't.

[MMMorish]

When are people going to realize that the M3 is ALL ABOUT ITS ENGINE and not its form. Who cares about CF roof, steel roof convertible, moonroof or sedan, fact is that the M3 has one of the sweetest V8 NA motors of all time! One that will never be made again!

[ersin]

Originally Posted by DragonNeo

Yeah, I know, my wording sounds like I was smoking something, the only thing is I wasn't.

Maybe you should.


Cheers.

[Raz335]

I do think the coupe's lines flow better than the vert with the top up. It's partly the reason I went with a darker color. The E93 looks less like a vert in a dark color which hides the joint lines. The vert will get more attention (not just from ladies). The general public won't know the difference from a M3 to a reg 3 series. But if it's a convertible, that means you spent money. If thats important to you then great. I bought it for the top down experience.

And as far as it not being a real M is just ridiculous. BMW wouldn't have put a M badge on it if it didn't perform like an M. I can almost guarantee I will never use the .5 second difference I lose in my vert. If someone is really using the performance potential of the lighter coupe, they shouldn't be on the street.

[edwin_jo]

Has anybody mentioned the inherent cowl shake of the convertibles? I drove an E93 M3 with the top down, and I hated the cowl shake of the car.

As far as looks, I think that the E93 with the top up, the lines don't flow as well as the coupe's. But with the top down, can't argue the beautiful look of the pilarless vehicle.

[Erhan]

I think a convertible should have 2 seats. When you have 4, the body is too long, and it doesn't look good from the profile when the top is down. If you want a convertible, get a Z4 or SLK.

Also I test drove the E93 M3 before I ordered my E92... There is no comparison. E93 is so heavy and wobbly...

[mrkhanna16]

Originally Posted by MVF4Rrider

You know most people lease, from actual data, or is that from the crack of your bum? FAIL

It's a fact. About 60% You=Fail.

[mrkhanna16]

Originally Posted by jlrarch

Is not funny that its a coupe in the picture.http://www.m3post.com/forums/images/smilies/lol.gif

It's funny because that is a sedan. Hahah. You=fail.

[osteome]

Originally Posted by James T. Kirk

If you're inclined to have a convertible, your priority is clearly not performance.

I agree, slowest of the M3 trio. But if you are specifically looking for a quick four seat convertible, there is not much else to compare to at this price point.

Some people pick the body style that they want, then select what is the best vehicle among the available choices. Trying to compare an E92 against an E93 on performance grounds would be ludicrous, as they two similar cars with but with different missions.

[ksoze]

Originally Posted by erhanh

E93 is so heavy and wobbly...

That depends on what you are comparing it to. Heavy, yes when compared to the coupe, but that is more noticeable when driven back to back. Get out of most other cars and into an E93 and it does not feel overweight. As to wobbly, that may be a bit extreme. Maybe immediately after getting out of a Formula 1 car...

[mrkhanna16]

Originally Posted by osteome

I agree, slowest of the M3 trio. But if you are specifically looking for a quick four seat convertible, there is not much else to compare to at this price point.

Some people pick the body style that they want, then select what is the best vehicle among the available choices. Trying to compare an E92 against an E93 on performance grounds would be ludicrous, as they two similar cars with but with different missions.

+1. Similar car with different missions.

[1sikbmr]

What you talkin bout willis??

[frenchM3dreamer]

i actually agree with the OP ! after seeing 1000's of M3 pictures here and a few on the road, my choice based on looks ONLY (agreed you dont buy a M3 just for that) would be E93 > E90 > E92...
unless tastefully (=lightly) modded, the E92 looks almost plain from some angles...
having said that, now that i have experienced the joy of driving with the top down, i dont think i'll ever get anything but a vert', so i'm biased, yes...
as someone said, if you find the difference in performance between the E92 and E93 on the street, maybe you should head to the track

[Poleposition]

Originally Posted by MMMorish

When are people going to realize that the M3 is ALL ABOUT ITS ENGINE and not its form. Who cares about CF roof, steel roof convertible, moonroof or sedan, fact is that the M3 has one of the sweetest V8 NA motors of all time! One that will never be made again!

THIS!

Originally Posted by edwin_jo

Has anybody mentioned the inherent cowl shake of the convertibles? I drove an E93 M3 with the top down, and I hated the cowl shake of the car.

Not on mine. Maybe you drove one of those fake ones.

[DragonNeo]

Originally Posted by frenchM3dreamer

i actually agree with the OP ! after seeing 1000's of M3 pictures here and a few on the road, my choice based on looks ONLY (agreed you dont buy a M3 just for that) would be E93 > E90 > E92...
unless tastefully (=lightly) modded, the E92 looks almost plain from some angles...
having said that, now that i have experienced the joy of driving with the top down, i dont think i'll ever get anything but a vert', so i'm biased, yes...
as someone said, if you find the difference in performance between the E92 and E93 on the street, maybe you should head to the track

Well said. Beauty may be in the eyes of beholder, but the top down driving experience in a M3 is utterly undeniably out of this world. Ask yourself this question when you want to drive an M3 on the streets (unless you are only interested in track days), how can I maximize my enjoyment out of driving this piece of engineering marvel. And the answer to that question, is to chop the top off and remove the pillars, so there is nothing around you, not a roof or back window, that can distract you from the sensation and sound of pure driving pleasure . 92+1=93

[///Matthew]

If you can afford an e92, you can afford an e93...

[Erhan]

Originally Posted by ksoze

That depends on what you are comparing it to. Heavy, yes when compared to the coupe, but that is more noticeable when driven back to back. Get out of most other cars and into an E93 and it does not feel overweight. As to wobbly, that may be a bit extreme. Maybe immediately after getting out of a Formula 1 car...

Well compared to a SUV, it might be a light car but come on, we're talking about a 4200lb car here. Which ever way you cut it, it is heavy. Heck, even the coupe is on the heavy side.

My comparison about the body rigidity was based on Z4MC. Sure, it is not a fair comparison since Z4MC has one of the most rigid bodies in production car category, but even with E92 you can feel the difference.

Honestly, I was disappointed during my E93 test drive in terms of how the chasis felt, but then I was pretty sure (and hopefull) that Coupe would be better.

[sheepboy]

The coupe is the best looking M3 in my opinion, but this is completely personal and you cannot settle this argument as there is no right or wrong, only individual taste. And event though I think the coupe looks better, the convertible is no ugly Betty!

One thing I can make a case for though is that the convertible provides the the best driving experience by a large margin. Nothing beats top-down driving listening to the V8 orchestra in full surround sound!

Agree with some that said cars are designed for different purposes. Nobody sane would buy a convertible to try to take the fastest lap of the day in a race track! But how many days a year the overwhelming majority of M3 drivers spend on a race track? That is exactly why I bought the convertible, which by the way is undoubtedly a true M3.

[ksoze]

Originally Posted by erhanh

Well compared to a SUV, it might be a light car but come on, we're talking about a 4200lb car here.

Compared to a train its even lighter, but let's skip that apple and oranges thing.

My comparison about the body rigidity was based on Z4MC. Sure, it is not a fair comparison since Z4MC has one of the most rigid bodies in production car category

Yeah, who cares about fair comparisons anyway. This is the internets.

[Erhan]

Originally Posted by ksoze

Compared to a train its even lighter, but let's skip that apple and oranges thing.

If you care to quote rest of what I write, you'll see that I'm comparing to the coupe, and it is HEAVY . You're the one who's trying to justify it's weight.

Originally Posted by ksoze

Yeah, who cares about fair comparisons anyway. This is the internets.

Again, if you care to quote rest of what I write, I'm telling you that compared to Coupe, it is wobbly...