How To Fix Notchy Shifting

[McSwine]

The one I had installed this week is 12% and it's perfect for me.

[Solo_M_Tech]

I had the same 2-3 shift issue and motor mounts fixed it completely. Start there.

[Shrike360]

Does anyone know if AS makes an extend shift lever? After driving an F80, it was nice how well lined up your arm is with the lever. Seems like an extended lever coupled with a shorter throw percentage and the F10 M5 knob would make it exceptional.

May end up just emailing him.

[sct911]

Would the ecs rebuild kit be compatible with RHD cars?

[icin235]

Originally Posted by Shrike360

Does anyone know if AS makes an extend shift lever? After driving an F80, it was nice how well lined up your arm is with the lever. Seems like an extended lever coupled with a shorter throw percentage and the F10 M5 knob would make it exceptional.

May end up just emailing him.

Did you end up emailing him? Curious if he would make that for you.

[Shrike360]

Originally Posted by icin235

Did you end up emailing him? Curious if he would make that for you.

Never reached out. From what I've found in threads, it sounds like he will do it.

[jmeek83]

Think I might tackle this project in the spring - AS SSK plus upgraded carrier bushings. Anyone notice this from Turner yet? I think I might add it to the list:

https://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-3...r-arm-bushing/

[icin235]

Originally Posted by jmeek83

Think I might tackle this project in the spring - AS SSK plus upgraded carrier bushings. Anyone notice this from Turner yet? I think I might add it to the list:

https://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-3...r-arm-bushing/

Yeah, I looked into that bushing. I decided to just go with a stock new one. I wanted to leave "some" flex in my setup somewhere.

[strokemycocktus]

Could anybody share the experience with
Rogue Engineering Delrin Carrier Bushings,
Turner poly Shifter Arm Carrier Bushing
and UUC Double Shear Selector Rod?
Would all these together reduce some lateral play?
Currently my car has 37k miles and the shifter play is similar to what the OP presented in his first video. I wonder if mods above would get me somewhere in the middle between this and the AS SSK?
I don't neccesairly need shorter throws, just wanted more precision, so I thought maybe there is a way to improve the stock shifter without spending $400+ on a SSK.

[jmeek83]

Originally Posted by seevin

Could anybody share the experience with
Rogue Engineering Delrin Carrier Bushings,
Turner poly Shifter Arm Carrier Bushing
and UUC Double Shear Selector Rod?
Would all these together reduce some lateral play?
Currently my car has 37k miles and the shifter play is similar to what the OP presented in his first video. I wonder if mods above would get me somewhere in the middle between this and the AS SSK?
I don't neccesairly need shorter throws, just wanted more precision, so I thought maybe there is a way to improve the stock shifter without spending $400+ on a SSK.

Feedback on the uuc dssr from the forum was negative. It actually introduced more slop.

[strokemycocktus]

Originally Posted by jmeek83

Feedback on the uuc dssr from the forum was negative. It actually introduced more slop.

Thanks for the info on this one.
How about the bushings?
Does the AS ssk come with their bushings?

[jmeek83]

Originally Posted by seevin

Thanks for the info on this one.
How about the bushings?
Does the AS ssk come with their bushings?

Negative. Got to buy them separately.

[strokemycocktus]

Ok.
So is replacing just the bushings with poly / delrin on a stock shifter a noticable improvement, or a waste of time and the only way to achieve a precise shifter is to get the ssk?

[kyrix1st]

I use Omega 690 red label Laptorr spec (75w80.) A bit expensive but significantly improves shifter feel.

[ChristianH]

Originally Posted by kyrix1st

I use Omega 690 red label Laptorr spec (75w80.) A bit expensive but significantly improves shifter feel.

Where can you get this from? Googled around but could only find japanese sites.

[kyrix1st]

Originally Posted by ChristianH

Where can you get this from? Googled around but could only find japanese sites.

The one I use is specifically ordered by the indy shop. The closest thing you will find it “omega 690 getrag”. You can get them at Rakuten.

[ekological]

Just curious as to what people are referring to when talking about notchiness. The original gearbox felt crunchy (like how my e39m5 w/ 180k miles feels like now when it's cold) going from first to second and second to third. Received a replacement and it felt great until maybe 500 miles later. Now I'm on the third gearbox and am wondering if I should replace the fluid with something other than factory fill. I replaced the shifting bits with original stuff when the third one went in...

[icin235]

Originally Posted by strokemycocktus

Could anybody share the experience with
Rogue Engineering Delrin Carrier Bushings,
Turner poly Shifter Arm Carrier Bushing
and UUC Double Shear Selector Rod?
Would all these together reduce some lateral play?
Currently my car has 37k miles and the shifter play is similar to what the OP presented in his first video. I wonder if mods above would get me somewhere in the middle between this and the AS SSK?
I don't neccesairly need shorter throws, just wanted more precision, so I thought maybe there is a way to improve the stock shifter without spending $400+ on a SSK.

I do have most of these answers on page 1 of this thread.

The Delrin carrier bushings are the same thing in the ECS kit. Yes, they will help reduce play and last longer than stock.

UUC DSS is a waste of money. No difference in feel or play from stock. I sold mine.

The AS Shifter comes in 2 flavors - I got the stock-like 7% shift throw reduction. A 20% shorter shift kit is available too.

Yes, you can improve the stock shifter - by doing everything listed on page 1 aside from the AS shifter. But the BIGGEST IMPROVEMENT was the AS shifter, you will never go back to stock. It's night and day better.

[Iyzmi]

Originally Posted by icin235

I do have most of these answers on page 1 of this thread.

The Delrin carrier bushings are the same thing in the ECS kit. Yes, they will help reduce play and last longer than stock.

UUC DSS is a waste of money. No difference in feel or play from stock. I sold mine.

The AS Shifter comes in 2 flavors - I got the stock-like 7% shift throw reduction. A 20% shorter shift kit is available too.

Yes, you can improve the stock shifter - by doing everything listed on page 1 aside from the AS shifter. But the BIGGEST IMPROVEMENT was the AS shifter, you will never go back to stock. It's night and day better.

Ronald will make any reduction level you want between 5% and 35%, not just 7% or 20%. He says the sweet spot is 14-18%. He is building mine tomorrow .

[strokemycocktus]

Originally Posted by icin235

I do have most of these answers on page 1 of this thread.

The Delrin carrier bushings are the same thing in the ECS kit. Yes, they will help reduce play and last longer than stock.

UUC DSS is a waste of money. No difference in feel or play from stock. I sold mine.

The AS Shifter comes in 2 flavors - I got the stock-like 7% shift throw reduction. A 20% shorter shift kit is available too.

Yes, you can improve the stock shifter - by doing everything listed on page 1 aside from the AS shifter. But the BIGGEST IMPROVEMENT was the AS shifter, you will never go back to stock. It's night and day better.

I have read that post before, great write up
My shifter play looks the same as yours in the video you posted after replacing the bushings. I was wondering if these harder delrin /poly bushings can be considered as an improvement over stock or just a replacement that is meant to last longer. To my understanding in my case the stock ones are still probably fine and changing them would not make things any better.
I've heard you can have the auto solutions ssk set up to your preference, which seems great.
I guess I'll just go with a weighted knob for now and get this kit some time later.

[Mvy]

Great write up. I finally replaced my motor mounts and shifter bushings and boy its such a huge difference. Those two alone were all I needed to get the car back to a proper feeling shift. There was a half inch difference in thickness between the new and old mount that it made getting the exhaust back in tricky! I can say the motor mount replacement is one of the best improvements you can do to improve feel of the car.

[M3 Number 86]

Damn it I need this now.