A compilation of 2 years of Oh Sh*t Moments at the tracks

JJ_01 · 09-10-2013, 04:54 PM

Man are you battling with that steering wheel and it looks like you are loosing a lot. I hope you do not do this on the streets...

klammer · 09-10-2013, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ_01

Man are you battling with that steering wheel and it looks like you are loosing a lot. I hope you do not do this on the streets...

Really???

lcrain · 09-10-2013, 08:56 PM

Watched the whole video. As an intermediate student, I admire your car control.

With mdm on, I am noticing reduced throttle coming out of some corners, so I am experimenting with traction fully off. I have been humbled a few times. I am much more confident with the mdm on, but I feel that it is a security blanket that will instill bad habits if I really want to progress as a driver.

That said, my 1m is my daily and I have to keep that in mind during hpde driving. Luckily in Texas most tracks have plenty of run off too which is comforting. I really need to take a car control class or do a private track day with instruction so I can put myself in uncomfortable scenarios with a more experienced driver guiding me in a safe environment.

Keep up the good work!

pkimM3r · 09-10-2013, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ_01

Man are you battling with that steering wheel and it looks like you are loosing a lot. I hope you do not do this on the streets...

These are oh shit moments you realize right?

OC3 · 09-10-2013, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ_01

Man are you battling with that steering wheel and it looks like you are loosing a lot. I hope you do not do this on the streets...

Welp, all I can say is, various people take various things from a given video.

For example, I had JRZ suspension put on the car in July of last year and, on the first track day with it, I found front passenger side rebound knob to have gotten seized (or, installed too tight) and so couldn't adjust it, so I just ran that day with all 4 corners and 8 adjustment knobs in street settings and I had a helluva time that day. New suspension, didn't know what to expect from it, set it too soft (it was softer than OE ZCP), etc, so spun out & went off a lot. So, I edited & compiled a video containing all the oh sh*t moments from that day & posted it with explicit disclaimer at the beginning of said video explaining all this and that it's only meant to be an entertainment. Most of the viewers were, of course, amused. But, a couple of'em posted things like "dude, you are dangerous, you should not be on a track, etc, etc."

Reading-comprehension issue, anyone?

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Originally Posted by lcrain

Watched the whole video. As an intermediate student, I admire your car control.

With mdm on, I am noticing reduced throttle coming out of some corners, so I am experimenting with traction fully off. I have been humbled a few times. I am much more confident with the mdm on, but I feel that it is a security blanket that will instill bad habits if I really want to progress as a driver.

That said, my 1m is my daily and I have to keep that in mind during hpde driving. Luckily in Texas most tracks have plenty of run off too which is comforting. I really need to take a car control class or do a private track day with instruction so I can put myself in uncomfortable scenarios with a more experienced driver guiding me in a safe environment.

Keep up the good work!

Thanks.

Yep, that's exactly why I decided to go DSC off. That moment where the throttle gets reduced and the car seems to come to a stand-still seems to last longer & longer as you get faster.

pkimM3r · 09-10-2013, 10:02 PM

Going to brp on sunday and at least there are runouts. I will be cautious by the wall.

Phils hill scares me! Ironically, thats my name.

OC3 · 09-10-2013, 10:12 PM

Debating whether to run BRP on Sunday... My car's not quite 100% ready, but it might be by Satuday. BRP on Sunday would be a good shake-down event...

bigjae1976 · 09-10-2013, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by lcrain

Luckily in Texas most tracks have plenty of run off too which is comforting.

I would avoid thinking that. If you ever walk the tracksin TX you'll very quickly discover that nice grassy fields will have ditches, drain pipes, and all sorts of big trash that you don't see flying by at speed. I've ran (aka jogged) MSR, HMSR, and TWS so I've explored the off track areas pretty thoroughly.

A perfect example it TWS. There's only about 2 really safe areas to go off. Otherwise you risk launching your car from a ditch on the outside of a lot of turns.

The the outside of keyhole at HMSR...that's a massive swamp.

The infield of MSRH between the straights connecting Diamond's Edge? There's 2 ditches and lots of drainage pipes.

The ONLY track that has a lot of safe run off is MSR 1.7.

pkimM3r · 09-10-2013, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by OC3

Debating whether to run BRP on Sunday... My car's not quite 100% ready, but it might be by Satuday. BRP on Sunday would be a good shake-down event...

Try to make it out!

OC3 · 09-11-2013, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by pkim1079

Try to make it out!

If It was SV or Extreme, and I decide at the last minute to run, I can just show up on Sunday and run. But, with NCRC, I don't know if they'll be flexible like that. I've only run once with them before, at Thunderhill last year.

Anyhow, Chuckwalla this weekend will be simply too hot (and, too far from home considering I'm trying to shake-down the car and make sure nothing falls off, lulz). And, Auto Club Speedway is just too fast, again, for a shake-down run. So, BRP... We'll see.

lcrain · 09-11-2013, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by bigjae1976

I would avoid thinking that. If you ever walk the tracksin TX you'll very quickly discover that nice grassy fields will have ditches, drain pipes, and all sorts of big trash that you don't see flying by at speed. I've ran (aka jogged) MSR, HMSR, and TWS so I've explored the off track areas pretty thoroughly.

A perfect example it TWS. There's only about 2 really safe areas to go off. Otherwise you risk launching your car from a ditch on the outside of a lot of turns.

The the outside of keyhole at HMSR...that's a massive swamp.

The infield of MSRH between the straights connecting Diamond's Edge? There's 2 ditches and lots of drainage pipes.

The ONLY track that has a lot of safe run off is MSR 1.7.

Thanks for the info! I have not looked at the tracks from that perspective. Luckily my "home" track is MSR.

Obviously I try not to be pushing it so hard that I lose it off the track, but it has happened (one at MSR, one at HMSR) luckily with no incident other than a car full of dirt. I am still finding dirt in the interior.

rhouck · 09-11-2013, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OC3

Debating whether to run BRP on Sunday... My car's not quite 100% ready, but it might be by Satuday. BRP on Sunday would be a good shake-down event...

Do it! I'll be there

And there is plenty of room on Sun for Open group, so you could signup late.

USCTrojanMan29 · 09-11-2013, 01:49 PM

I'll be at the SV Buttonwillow event next weekend, probably on Sunday. I've never ran 13CW backwards, should be interesting. OC3...which is easier...running 13CW or 13CCW?

OC3 · 09-11-2013, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rhouck

Do it! I'll be there

And there is plenty of room on Sun for Open group, so you could signup late.

I most likely will.

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Originally Posted by USCTrojanMan29

I'll be at the SV Buttonwillow event next weekend, probably on Sunday. I've never ran 13CW backwards, should be interesting. OC3...which is easier...running 13CW or 13CCW?

I'll be there for that Sunday, for sure. I'm leading the B2 class of SV's bimmerChallenge this season, and haven't run for a while due to the car change. Gotta get back to pile up points!

USCTrojanMan29 · 09-11-2013, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by OC3

I most likely will.

I'll be there for that Sunday, for sure. I'm leading the B2 class of SV's bimmerChallenge this season, and haven't run for a while due to the car change. Gotta get back to pile up points!

Sweet, I'll be looking to go sub 2:10 with the Nittos and maybe even hit a 2:05. Will Jean be coming out too?

OC3 · 09-11-2013, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by USCTrojanMan29

Sweet, I'll be looking to go sub 2:10 with the Nittos and maybe even hit a 2:05. Will Jean be coming out too?

Re: Jean, don't know yet, but I'll try to nudge him & Gabriel to come out.

bigjae1976 · 09-11-2013, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by lcrain

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Originally Posted by bigjae1976

I would avoid thinking that. If you ever walk the tracksin TX you'll very quickly discover that nice grassy fields will have ditches, drain pipes, and all sorts of big trash that you don't see flying by at speed. I've ran (aka jogged) MSR, HMSR, and TWS so I've explored the off track areas pretty thoroughly.

A perfect example it TWS. There's only about 2 really safe areas to go off. Otherwise you risk launching your car from a ditch on the outside of a lot of turns.

The the outside of keyhole at HMSR...that's a massive swamp.

The infield of MSRH between the straights connecting Diamond's Edge? There's 2 ditches and lots of drainage pipes.

The ONLY track that has a lot of safe run off is MSR 1.7.

Thanks for the info! I have not looked at the tracks from that perspective. Luckily my "home" track is MSR.

Obviously I try not to be pushing it so hard that I lose it off the track, but it has happened (one at MSR, one at HMSR) luckily with no incident other than a car full of dirt. I am still finding dirt in the interior.

I know...just keep that in the back of your mind. A lot of drivers, even advanced guys think like that. Honestly I would too if I hadn't jogged those tracks.

Ti-Jean · 09-12-2013, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by USCTrojanMan29

Sweet, I'll be looking to go sub 2:10 with the Nittos and maybe even hit a 2:05. Will Jean be coming out too?

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Originally Posted by OC3

Re: Jean, don't know yet, but I'll try to nudge him & Gabriel to come out.

My next event is going to be Speed District @ Buttonwillow 13CW on Sep 29. Hope to see you guys out there

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Originally Posted by USCTrojanMan29

I'll be at the SV Buttonwillow event next weekend, probably on Sunday. I've never ran 13CW backwards, should be interesting. OC3...which is easier...running 13CW or 13CCW?

13CCW should be fun. I have done 1CCW (same as 13CCW except Star Mazda turn instead of sweeper) and it was a blast. You will see for yourself but the braking zone just before entering cotton corner is a bit tricky... there is a bump in the pavement (2:38 on my video) right where you want to brake. You have to decide to either brake a bit earlier, or grow some **** and brake after.

Here is 1CCW on my M3 during practice race start... just to give you an idea of what to expect:

OC3 · 09-13-2013, 01:42 AM

Ok, signed up for BRP this Sunday!

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Originally Posted by Ti-Jean

My next event is going to be Speed District @ Buttonwillow 13CW on Sep 29. Hope to see you guys out there

I'll definitely see you there. I just checked SV's site for Sunday roster and it's less than 10 right now (assuming it's updated).

Edit: woops, I thought you meant Buttonwillow on Sep 22 with SV. On weekend of Sep 28/29, I'm doing Chuckwalla.

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Originally Posted by USCTrojanMan29

I'll be at the SV Buttonwillow event next weekend, probably on Sunday. I've never ran 13CW backwards, should be interesting. OC3...which is easier...running 13CW or 13CCW?

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Originally Posted by Ti-Jean

13CCW should be fun. I have done 1CCW (same as 13CCW except Star Mazda turn instead of sweeper) and it was a blast. You will see for yourself but the braking zone just before entering cotton corner is a bit tricky... there is a bump in the pavement (2:38 on my video) right where you want to brake. You have to decide to either brake a bit earlier, or grow some **** and brake after.

Here is 1CCW on my M3 during practice race start... just to give you an idea of what to expect:

I've never run CCW at BRP. Not sure if anybody's ever did 13CCW, but as Ti-Jean posted, they run 1CCW from time to time.

USCTrojanMan29 · 09-13-2013, 02:34 AM

OC3/Jean, I'm getting very tempted to sign up for the Speed District event with all the track time. Are you guys gonna drive up Saturday and spend the night in BW or just driving up Sunday bright and early?

OC3 · 09-13-2013, 02:37 AM

Jean's far from the track, so I'm sure he won't be driving up early Sunday morning.

But, I'm only 100 miles from BRP, so I always drive up early.

Edit: sorry, my bad. I mis-read Jean's post and thought he meant BRP on 09/22 with Speed Ventures. I'm doing Chuckwalla on the weekend of 09/28~29

Ti-Jean · 09-13-2013, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by USCTrojanMan29

OC3/Jean, I'm getting very tempted to sign up for the Speed District event with all the track time. Are you guys gonna drive up Saturday and spend the night in BW or just driving up Sunday bright and early?

Do it... You can't beat the amount of track time you get with Speed District and there's always a ton of nice cars too

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Originally Posted by OC3

Jean's far from the track, so I'm sure he won't be driving up early Sunday morning.

Edit: sorry, my bad. I mis-read Jean's post and thought he meant BRP on 09/22 with Speed Ventures. I'm doing Chuckwalla on the weekend of 09/28~29

As OC3 said, I live too far from every tracks, I always drive up the night before the event.

I'm tempted to do Chuckwalla Saturday (28th) and Buttonwillow Sunday (29th). Anybody know which direction they're running on Saturday?

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JJ_01 New Member 1 Rep 15 Posts Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Belgium iTrader: (0)	Man are you battling with that steering wheel and it looks like you are loosing a lot. I hope you do not do this on the streets...
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lcrain Captain 56 Rep 865 Posts Drives: e36 m3, TT-RS Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Dallas, TX iTrader: (1)	Watched the whole video. As an intermediate student, I admire your car control. With mdm on, I am noticing reduced throttle coming out of some corners, so I am experimenting with traction fully off. I have been humbled a few times. I am much more confident with the mdm on, but I feel that it is a security blanket that will instill bad habits if I really want to progress as a driver. That said, my 1m is my daily and I have to keep that in mind during hpde driving. Luckily in Texas most tracks have plenty of run off too which is comforting. I really need to take a car control class or do a private track day with instruction so I can put myself in uncomfortable scenarios with a more experienced driver guiding me in a safe environment. Keep up the good work!
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pkimM3r Banned 205 Rep 7,298 Posts Drives: m3 saloon in granny mode. Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lost angeles iTrader: (0)	Going to brp on sunday and at least there are runouts. I will be cautious by the wall. Phils hill scares me! Ironically, thats my name.
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OC3 Havin' a blast! 125 Rep 4,847 Posts Drives: 2013 M3 E92 Jerez Blk DCT ZCP Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: SoCal iTrader: (1)	Debating whether to run BRP on Sunday... My car's not quite 100% ready, but it might be by Satuday. BRP on Sunday would be a good shake-down event... __________________ BRP 1:56 \| CVR 2:01 \| ACS 1:53 \| WSIR 1:34
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USCTrojanMan29 Captain 34 Rep 898 Posts Drives: Purple People Eater Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Around iTrader: (2)	I'll be at the SV Buttonwillow event next weekend, probably on Sunday. I've never ran 13CW backwards, should be interesting. OC3...which is easier...running 13CW or 13CCW?
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USCTrojanMan29 Captain 34 Rep 898 Posts Drives: Purple People Eater Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Around iTrader: (2)	OC3/Jean, I'm getting very tempted to sign up for the Speed District event with all the track time. Are you guys gonna drive up Saturday and spend the night in BW or just driving up Sunday bright and early?
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OC3 Havin' a blast! 125 Rep 4,847 Posts Drives: 2013 M3 E92 Jerez Blk DCT ZCP Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: SoCal iTrader: (1)	Jean's far from the track, so I'm sure he won't be driving up early Sunday morning. But, I'm only 100 miles from BRP, so I always drive up early. Edit: sorry, my bad. I mis-read Jean's post and thought he meant BRP on 09/22 with Speed Ventures. I'm doing Chuckwalla on the weekend of 09/28~29 __________________ BRP 1:56 \| CVR 2:01 \| ACS 1:53 \| WSIR 1:34 Last edited by OC3; 09-13-2013 at 02:44 AM..
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