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01-04-2019, 07:39 AM | #1 |
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Interesting Convo w/ Indy BMW Shop Sales Manager
I am in the market for an e90 M3 and wanted to get an idea of the cost of some maint. items from a local shop that was actually recommended on here (as a result I won't be providing the name of the shop). I left the convo with more questions than answers and curious if you guys agree/disagree with some of the info he provided:
-I asked about RB replacement. He stated it was an issue but not with a lot of cars and seemed to suggest it was just something you could address if they go bad. (First red flag). Went on to say the cost would be $3k - 4k and said they only recommended OEM RBs as a replacement. -He stated that anyone who owned an M should expect to spend $2-$2.5k on maint/service on an annual basis. Went on to say that over a 5 year period, you could expect to spend $15-20k on your M. -Even though I mentioned I was shopping for an e90... he mentioned he liked "M5"s from that year and kept referring to SMG transmission (I did correct that I was only shopping for MT to end that part of the convo). -Stated valve cover gasket replacement was ~$1k ... this may not be that far off since it is labor intensive... Having done my research on what I am looking to buy, I didnt find my convo with him to be particularly accurate although some of his comments are subjective. Curious what you guys think? Would you give this shop a chance or should I be looking for another option? |
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Hahahahaha!
Run as far away from this shop as you can. |
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01-04-2019, 07:48 AM | #3 |
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you don't have one of these cars and you know enough about them to be suspicious of that guy.
he supposedly works on them and doesn't seem to have a solid grasp. that should tell you everything you need to know.
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01-04-2019, 07:59 AM | #4 |
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I mean, the estimate for valve cover gasket replacement for an indy may not be that far off. So there's that.
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With the tech saying "Around $1000" let's say that it's about $940.00. $940.00 $190.00 $750.00 So let's say labor is about $70 an hour. You mean to tell me that this is going to be a 10 hour job? Come on.... |
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01-04-2019, 08:37 AM | #7 |
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Where are you getting labor on a BMW for $70/hr? $125 would be more realistic which results in 6hrs of labor using your math. Book time is somewhere between 6-8hrs for valve cover gaskets IIRC. For reference, my dealership quoted me $1,272 parts and labor at $145/hr.
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01-04-2019, 08:46 AM | #9 |
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its also good practice to replace the valve cover bolts (come with rubber seals) which will increase parts prices, maybe even new oil separators for preventative maintenance which would also increase parts prices
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01-04-2019, 08:51 AM | #10 |
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LMAO $70 a hour? Where???
Even regular gas station shops here charge min $90 a hr OP, as others have stated find another shop. |
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01-04-2019, 09:09 AM | #12 |
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OP, you can buy mine with the warranty and not worry about a thing
Seriously though, as others said this guy doesn't seem to have a grip on whats going on with this chassis. Your first order of business would be research as much as possible on this forum, there is a TON of information regarding common failures, fixes, maintenance costs, DIYs, etc... Thats what I did when I started looking for an E90. Its ultimately why I decided to get a warranty with mine and its paid for itself x3. Finding a well maintained car with records should be a priority of be prepared to do a lot of DIYing to get it up to par. That said, don't be scared of the E90 chassis, its a great dual duty car that'll leave you feeling rewarded every time you got WOT. Good luck on your search
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Yeah, my labor was off, sorry, haha. I was trying to remember what I was last quoted years ago at an INDY shop. Even at $125, that's still way too long for valve covers.
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I think you went wrong when you stated you spoke to the Shop Sales Manager - In my experience, most sales people or service advisors do not have a clue about the specific details of a particular vehicle type. Obviously there are some out there that are going to be very passionate and knowledgeable but those are few and far between.
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I've never heard of a sales manager at a repair shop. Was this the owner of the shop or basically a glorified cashier? Seems like the answers you were given were not based on any actual experience with these cars, making me think that the guy you spoke with doesn't actually work on cars--especially since you mentioned that the shop was recommended by people on this forum.
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I was actually trying to get some specific quotes but didn't have the patience to speak with the guy after a few minutes into the conversation where I didn't get the best impression. |
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01-04-2019, 09:58 AM | #17 |
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OP this thread should give you more of an insight
https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1418410 |
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Theodor is such a superstar. Can't help myself posting another one of his collections as a little reminder:
https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1343867 |
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....and yet another one...: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1330067
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Amazing how much labor rates vary. In WA we pay $115-$140/hr. Those aren't just bmw Indy shops either. A good domestic shop still charges $130
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A head cover gasket is something entirely different. Interesting bill
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