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      01-21-2023, 03:59 AM   #1
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BBS FI-R Fitment Help

Hey guys, just got 19” FI-Rs for the car and wanted to know what tire setup you guys would run not to rub.

I have lowering springs (factory suspension) and these offsets:

F: 19x9.5 et22

R: 19x10.5 et35.

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The rear needs 10 or 12mm spacer
I was able to fit 275/35/19, 295/30/19 and 305/30/19.

I am 10mm lower than ZCP. If you are lower, than the 275 (26.6 tall) would be too tall.

The 305/30/19 is OEM size at 26.3

The 295/30/19 is shorter and your best bet.

The front best fit would 255/35/19. You need to pay attention for the specific tire sizes. Some are larger than others.

A 245/35/19 is safe, but narrow for 9.5” wheel.

Avoid the temptation to fit 265/30/19. Too short of a side wall to be practicle. But, if this is for cars and cofffee then it will fit.

The 275/30/19 works well and if I recall corectly does not rub. It was ok but not the best.

The 265/35/19 works the best, but rubs terribly and will destroy the inner fender. It woud probably not fit a lowered car.

I have the same wheels

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Hey thanks so much for the info; I am also lowered 10mm on HR SuperSports, and drivability is priority; I was on track today with the current 255/35/19 wheels and they leave a huge lip on the wheel and stretch around the rim (rubber bands) they suck lol

Dailying on the 255s suck too, wheels have a huge lip outside of the tire and look like rubber bands. Not practical

Is the 275/30/19 a practical alternative? Car is a daily as well; daily-ing is #1 priority

What would you recommend to be the best option?
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Yes, the 275/30/19 were good.
Not much selection.
I did very good lap times on the RT660.
it is still a short sidewall so with expensive wheels you have to be worrying about potholes on a daily driving and jumping curbs on the track.

Also, make sure to not drop too much air pressure on track. And take your time coming up into pressure.

Main issue with the 275/30/19 is selection and availability. You may want to buy 4 and have two on hand to avoid delays.
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For refrence 245/35/19 and 285/30/19 have the same sidewall.

I also tried 285/30/19 and it fits like the 265/35/19, meaning it rubs the inner fender about the same. The 265/35/19 has more slection and was faster. so I settled on that size. I don’t recommand it if you want to keep your car “nicely looking” but it is the best choice up front for 19”
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Hey guys, just got 19” FI-Rs for the car and wanted to know what tire setup you guys would run not to rub.

I have lowering springs (factory suspension) and these offsets:

F: 19x9.5 et22

R: 19x10.5 et35.

Thanks
Are these rep FI-Rs (no biggie if they are, just genuinely curious)? My apologies if not...but the font looks a bit off in the BBS and Forged engravings, I've never seen anyone fit BMW caps on FI-Rs and those centercaps look a lot smaller than on my FI-Rs. Also, the windows of the spokes aren't carved out like mine and the holes look to be a bit smaller.

Anyways, here's my E90 on BBS FI-Rs with the same specs...I'm running 265/35 up front and 295/30 in the rear Michelin PS4S. Camber is -2.7 up front and -2.0 in the rear (no ill effects to tire wear with these specs), 3mm spacers up front, 10mm in the rear. No rubbing in the rear but rubs a bit up front when turning at close to full lock. As you can see, my car is pretty low on coilovers though...if my car wasn't this low; I wouldn't rub. I don't drive this car everyday so it's a non-issue for me.

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I have 9,5 and 10,5”
With 255/35-19” and 285/30-19
PS-4S

This is the OEM GTS tire setup (GTS have 9” and 10” wheels though)


Love the look and handling with these.
Don’t think the rubber lip on the out side is to much. Looks perfect to me 🤩

Need new tires soon, and will go for the same tire size next time.
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Are these rep FI-Rs (no biggie if they are, just genuinely curious)? My apologies if not...but the font looks a bit off in the BBS and Forged engravings, I've never seen anyone fit BMW caps on FI-Rs and those centercaps look a lot smaller than on my FI-Rs. Also, the windows of the spokes aren't carved out like mine and the holes look to be a bit smaller.

Anyways, here's my E90 on BBS FI-Rs with the same specs...I'm running 265/35 up front and 295/30 in the rear Michelin PS4S. Camber is -2.7 up front and -2.0 in the rear (no ill effects to tire wear with these specs), 3mm spacers up front, 10mm in the rear. No rubbing in the rear but rubs a bit up front when turning at close to full lock. As you can see, my car is pretty low on coilovers though...if my car wasn't this low; I wouldn't rub. I don't drive this car everyday so it's a non-issue for me.

IMG_1718-1 by dj_dub, on Flickr
Hey thank you for the details; I did some research and got a little paranoid because I got the wheels second hand (yet brand new and never mounted); found two images online from the BBS website at different times and seems like there are two versions of the wheel *correct me if I'm wrong* One version has a larger center cap (FI-R Pole Position?) and one version has a smaller cap (Regular FI-R). Caps were damaged previously so owner threw in floating Bmw caps (temporary fix for time being). Also the angle of the photo didn't show the slots or much detail, so I attached another image for us to see in this response. Hopefully they're legit wheels, gotta be safe.

Top wheel is the Regular FI-R, the middle is mine, and the bottom is what seem to be yours.

As for tire size, I'm not as low as you nor do I care about fitment as much as I do drivability; I'll try for the 265/35 F - 295/30 R option and remove my front spacer.

Thanks!
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Hey thank you for the details; I did some research and got a little paranoid because I got the wheels second hand (yet brand new and never mounted); found two images online from the BBS website at different times and seems like there are two versions of the wheel *correct me if I'm wrong* One version has a larger center cap (FI-R Pole Position?) and one version has a smaller cap (Regular FI-R). Caps were damaged previously so owner threw in floating Bmw caps (temporary fix for time being). Also the angle of the photo didn't show the slots or much detail, so I attached another image for us to see in this response. Hopefully they're legit wheels, gotta be safe.

Top wheel is the Regular FI-R, the middle is mine, and the bottom is what seem to be yours.
Hate to break it to you man...but those are definitely reps. Those pics pretty much solidify it. First pic has a photoshopped center cap without a doubt and your wheel pic shows me all I need to know to confirm my initial suspicions that they're reps.

BBS never made 2 versions of the FI-R...in 19" 5x120 they came in 2 faces only: models FIR 137 and FIR 138. Which look exactly like mine. There's a new style FI-R out called the FI-R Evo, but neither of us have that.

Also BMW center caps won't fit non-BMW factory BBS wheels without modification or adapters.

I would contact the person you bought those from because they sold you something not authentic and hopefully you didn't pay authentic pricing. If you need anymore information, feel free to PM me.
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Are these rep FI-Rs (no biggie if they are, just genuinely curious)? My apologies if not...but the font looks a bit off in the BBS and Forged engravings, I've never seen anyone fit BMW caps on FI-Rs and those centercaps look a lot smaller than on my FI-Rs. Also, the windows of the spokes aren't carved out like mine and the holes look to be a bit smaller.

Anyways, here's my E90 on BBS FI-Rs with the same specs...I'm running 265/35 up front and 295/30 in the rear Michelin PS4S. Camber is -2.7 up front and -2.0 in the rear (no ill effects to tire wear with these specs), 3mm spacers up front, 10mm in the rear. No rubbing in the rear but rubs a bit up front when turning at close to full lock. As you can see, my car is pretty low on coilovers though...if my car wasn't this low; I wouldn't rub. I don't drive this car everyday so it's a non-issue for me.

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265/35-19 or 265/30-19?
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      01-23-2023, 12:51 PM   #11
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If you fit 265/35/19, my condolences to your inner fender.
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Hate to break it to you man...but those are definitely reps. Those pics pretty much solidify it. First pic has a photoshopped center cap without a doubt and your wheel pic shows me all I need to know to confirm my initial suspicions that they're reps.

BBS never made 2 versions of the FI-R...in 19" 5x120 they came in 2 faces only: models FIR 137 and FIR 138. Which look exactly like mine. There's a new style FI-R out called the FI-R Evo, but neither of us have that.

Also BMW center caps won't fit non-BMW factory BBS wheels without modification or adapters.

I would contact the person you bought those from because they sold you something not authentic and hopefully you didn't pay authentic pricing. If you need anymore information, feel free to PM me.
I got a decent deal but will be in touch with the seller and confirm what's going on. Thank you for the clarification
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I got a decent deal but will be in touch with the seller and confirm what's going on. Thank you for the clarification
Yeah those replicas pop up once or twice a year on the forums and get called out. The holes are too "square" compared to authentic FI-R's.
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On my FI-Rs I ran a 265/35/19 and 285/35/19 at first and it rubbed my front rearward liner like crazy so I switched to 265/30/19 and 285/30/19 and solved it totally
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Did some research, and will be rocking the 265/30s with 295/30s out back. Thanks brotha!
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Are these rep FI-Rs (no biggie if they are, just genuinely curious)? My apologies if not...but the font looks a bit off in the BBS and Forged engravings, I've never seen anyone fit BMW caps on FI-Rs and those centercaps look a lot smaller than on my FI-Rs. Also, the windows of the spokes aren't carved out like mine and the holes look to be a bit smaller.

Anyways, here's my E90 on BBS FI-Rs with the same specs...I'm running 265/35 up front and 295/30 in the rear Michelin PS4S. Camber is -2.7 up front and -2.0 in the rear (no ill effects to tire wear with these specs), 3mm spacers up front, 10mm in the rear. No rubbing in the rear but rubs a bit up front when turning at close to full lock. As you can see, my car is pretty low on coilovers though...if my car wasn't this low; I wouldn't rub. I don't drive this car everyday so it's a non-issue for me.

IMG_1718-1 by dj_dub, on Flickr
So I did some homework and spoke with the seller of the wheel; turns out that according to the part number, the wheels are definitely replicas however fully forged using the same 6061-T6 alloy as authentic FI-R's. Not to mention they're also made in Germany. Paid $1000 for the set, I'm going to leave em on; also worth mentioning that they're exactly 16.5 lbs F, 17.5lbs R like OEM and did tremendously on track haha!

I appreciate all of your insight, thanks for looking out. Got lucky that these wheels are illegitimate, legit wheels XD
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So I did some homework and spoke with the seller of the wheel; turns out that according to the part number, the wheels are definitely replicas however fully forged using the same 6061-T6 alloy as authentic FI-R's. Not to mention they're also made in Germany. Paid $1000 for the set, I'm going to leave em on; also worth mentioning that they're exactly 16.5 lbs F, 17.5lbs R like OEM and did tremendously on track haha!

I appreciate all of your insight, thanks for looking out. Got lucky that these wheels are illegitimate, legit wheels XD
Careful man, tracking replicas wheels is 🫣. Maybe run them as your street setup and get some Apex or Titans for the track. You might find a shit wheel takes out your car or worse, someone else.
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$1000 for the set? Really, I would be careful with the quality of those wheels, specially on the track. Good luck.
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On my FI-Rs I ran a 265/35/19 and 285/35/19 at first and it rubbed my front rearward liner like crazy so I switched to 265/30/19 and 285/30/19 and solved it totally
Car looks great. How low is your car and what kind of suspension do you have on the car?
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At this point, I'm tired of the headache and fine with the set; I just posted the thread for a wheel/tire setup to see what the folks are running. Seller is someone I know personally, nothing to worry. If I fall on my face with these, it's my doing.

Be sure to snap a pic and point out the reps if you see me on the streets if it makes you feel any better imo
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