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      07-01-2018, 06:52 PM   #89
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Prove it. You are full of shit.


Ok, here's a fun fact!

The gentlemen I spoke about had 5 customers total, all major oil services companies here in Texas. Before I started my businesses I was his regional manager for a major fortune 500 company. Right before I left I signed a $64k sales commission check for him that was for an account he closed that had only about 700 uniform wearers at the location where he was already serviced all the shop towels and mats. That's not including his weekly commissions which was usually around net $3k every week.

To add a cherry to your frosted ass..... he went to college alright, and degreed in broadcast radio!

Now you were saying about degrees.....?
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Prove it. You are full of shit.
O! Ah! Herz dat pwoof youz be talk'n bout of dat heaaad gazzget job.

$1500 at 10hrs labor be tha caz prise. $2000 if you swipe it!

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This thread is stupid. People thought the US would go to shit when Trump got elected and we're doing alright. Same shit different day here. People just love to pick sides and call names with politics
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Fully get this. The most successful person I personally know very well barely graduated HS. They are major outliers.

With respect to trades and skills more training, certs, and experience is a real competitive advantage, 100% correct. The amounts they are paying for specialty welding in this area are INSANE!!

There are too many people who slip through the cracks that could do extremely well if they learned a trade. The US Education system has failed the population especially badly in this respect.

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I could not agree more. There's absolutely nothing wrong with a blue collar tradesperson job, yet somehow in this country we have decided that every single person must go to college to be successful. So we take good, honest, kids who want to work hard but maybe aren't scholastic powerhouses and we beat into their heads that they have to go to college. So they dutifully sign up for loans and head off to community college or some online BS "tech" school. Many wind up not making it all the way through and drop out with no degree and a bunch of debt. Happened to two of my nephews. Would have happened to my brother had my folks not been footing the bill for his "film school" courses.

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Are you kidding!

Your ignorance clearly suits you well, and apparently you also know nothing of refineries or real labor.

I call it grey collar money..... blue collar job with a white collar paycheck!

Guy I know a uniform/linen delivery guy making 140k a year and working from 4am-9am only 5 days a week!

You might need to step off your soap box for a bit and explore the service world a bit.

Hell I can personally make 1500 in a day doing a head gasket job on a diesel motor.... you do the math!
Yep, same here. Good buddy of mine runs a small pest control business. Just himself and his truck. No staff or anything. Just a solo dude. Most days he works 9 to 2, weekdays only, and pulls in abut $120k/yr. Could bring in more if he worked more but he's happy where he's at. It's this crazy thing called "work/life balance" that us white collar desk jockeys don't seem to know about.
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. It's this crazy thing called "work/life balance" that us white collar desk jockeys don't seem to know about.
What you think gubermint jobs for????
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What you think gubermint jobs for????
Right lol!

Hints the reason the top 5 wealthiest zip codes all surround DC!
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What you think gubermint jobs for????
I like the private sector paychecks...
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General labourer making north of six figures...sure.
welcome to the current construction climate...

with OT, weekend pay, overnight pay, etc. ive had to pay stop/slow sign holders $60+ / hr

its not uncommon for a general laborer on certain projects to make 25-30/hr which is $50-60k/yr in standard wages. just an average of 10 hrs OT/week could bump that into the 80k range, and then add in bonuses/whatever.
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welcome to the current construction climate...

with OT, weekend pay, overnight pay, etc. ive had to pay stop/slow sign holders $60+ / hr

its not uncommon for a general laborer on certain projects to make 25-30/hr which is $50-60k/yr in standard wages. just an average of 10 hrs OT/week could bump that into the 80k range, and then add in bonuses/whatever.
I can see skilled labour, plumbers, electricians, etc. You are much more in the know on this topic then I. I'm sure unskilled labour could attain north of 100k but it's not sustainable. Construction needs change (look at Alberta Canada..boom to bust). As well the older you get the more difficult the job gets. I'm not saying I agree that a university degree is the answer for everyone but it is important to invest in yourself early in life to attain a skill that will be in demand for years to come.

My problem is Dieselunlimited making statements like he knows a delivery guy who works regular hours and makes 140k/year. I call complete BS on that when the average delivery driver makes what $16-$20/hr.
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I can see skilled labour, plumbers, electricians, etc. You are much more in the know on this topic then I. I'm sure unskilled labour could attain north of 100k but it's not sustainable. Construction needs change (look at Alberta Canada..boom to bust). As well the older you get the more difficult the job gets. I'm not saying I agree that a university degree is the answer for everyone but it is important to invest in yourself early in life to attain a skill that will be in demand for years to come.

My problem is Dieselunlimited making statements like he knows a delivery guy who works regular hours and makes 140k/year. I call complete BS on that when the average delivery driver makes what $16-$20/hr.
there are plenty of people making good money at jobs you wouldnt expect.

ive got a buddy that makes 200k +/yr spraying weeds and plowing parking lots. just today we had a guy come into our office driving a new AMG and all he does is clean office buildings

the thing with a degree is you need to be smart about it. if your career goals will require a degree, get it. If you can achieve them without a degree, weight the cost/benefit. In my career, I could have worked my way to where I am without a degree, but i would be about 5-10yrs behind where I am now. But on the same hand, my regional manager and VP both dont have degrees and worked their way to the top.
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O! Ah! Herz dat pwoof youz be talk'n bout of dat heaaad gazzget job.

$1500 at 10hrs labor be tha caz prise. $2000 if you swipe it!

Any how many of those do you do in a run of a year?
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Ok, here's a fun fact!

The gentlemen I spoke about had 5 customers total, all major oil services companies here in Texas. Before I started my businesses I was his regional manager for a major fortune 500 company. Right before I left I signed a $64k sales commission check for him that was for an account he closed that had only about 700 uniform wearers at the location where he was already serviced all the shop towels and mats. That's not including his weekly commissions which was usually around net $3k every week.

To add a cherry to your frosted ass..... he went to college alright, and degreed in broadcast radio!

Now you were saying about degrees.....?
I think what you are missing here is the people you are talking about including yourself own their own businesses. We aren't talking about an average linen delivery driver. Qualify your statements a bit more.
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I can see skilled labour, plumbers, electricians, etc. You are much more in the know on this topic then I. I'm sure unskilled labour could attain north of 100k but it's not sustainable. Construction needs change (look at Alberta Canada..boom to bust). As well the older you get the more difficult the job gets. I'm not saying I agree that a university degree is the answer for everyone but it is important to invest in yourself early in life to attain a skill that will be in demand for years to come.

My problem is Dieselunlimited making statements like he knows a delivery guy who works regular hours and makes 140k/year. I call complete BS on that when the average delivery driver makes what $16-$20/hr.
You know the average independent plumber in the US makes arpund 250k a year.....

The fact you honestly think I'm talking "delivery driver" is hilarious!

I'm talking a service rep position. Commission only, no hourly guarantee or anything.

I'll go a bit deeper for you......

Way the hell back when 5 gallon water bottles were the only means of reliable means of office and shop clean drinking water, I got started in the route sales and service industry at 18 delivering water to accounts. At only 18yrs old I was making 70k a year, and did it with only a commercial drivers license which the company let me use the route truck to take the test in and the ability to manage and sell to customers.

By the time I was 24, I was the district manager of the linen company I spoke about and not one was a "delivery driver", they were all route sales reps in a very lucrative high demand device industry.

It can be hard work yes, but you learn to adapt and be proficient and efficient all to maximize your time and dime!

There nothing better than a sales job where you literally can write your own paycheck!

Same reason people like to sell real estate!
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I think what you are missing here is the people you are talking about including yourself own their own businesses. We aren't talking about an average linen delivery driver. Qualify your statements a bit more.
No, the sales and service industry is a high demand industry.

FedEx ground for example typically are all independent routes where that owner either runs the route themselves, or owns multiple routes and pays the labor.

A gentlemen I used to know made over $4 million a year from the 3 routes he owned.... that was his net after all yearly expenses.

Here in Texas we have firework stands, and a good friend owns 6 stands works 4 weeks out of the year and clears $250k which is his net even after the following years investment.

My point to you is this.

Education is important, yet education doesn't come from a "degree" per se.... it comes from the experiences one goes through and their desire to prosper.
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Any how many of those do you do in a run of a year?
For the 6.7 cummins.....

Alot!
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This thread is stupid. People thought the US would go to shit when Trump got elected and we're doing alright. Same shit different day here. People just love to pick sides and call names with politics
I agree just her and Bernie wont have much of an effect but when the Democrats regain power if they have too many of these socialist in office it will spell doom for the whole nation since socialism has never work out for the betterment of the overall population
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I agree just her and Bernie wont have much of an effect but when the Democrats regain power if they have too many of these socialist in office it will spell doom for the whole nation since socialism has never work out for the betterment of the overall population
I see this as a perfect opportunity for the "open borders" crowd to leave this country they hate so much, and go across those "open borders" they love so much to places such as Venezuela, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, etc. GTFO out of our country and go be miserable and enslaved somewhere else. I'll be damned if I'm going to let these mind controlled idiotic drones tell me how to live.

Take this nasty socialist bitch "from the Bronx" along with you.
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The head of the Dimturd party just declared this 28 year old whack job the "future" of the Democratic party!

Listen up Free Shit Army, you have a new General!

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...ture-our-party
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You know the average independent plumber in the US makes arpund 250k a year.....
I bet his name is Joe.

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The fact you honestly think I'm talking "delivery driver" is hilarious!
That's what you said.
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I bet his name is Joe.



That's what you said.
Yeah no!

Go reread.

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I can see skilled labour, plumbers, electricians, etc. You are much more in the know on this topic then I. I'm sure unskilled labour could attain north of 100k but it's not sustainable. Construction needs change (look at Alberta Canada..boom to bust). As well the older you get the more difficult the job gets. I'm not saying I agree that a university degree is the answer for everyone but it is important to invest in yourself early in life to attain a skill that will be in demand for years to come.

My problem is Dieselunlimited making statements like he knows a delivery guy who works regular hours and makes 140k/year. I call complete BS on that when the average delivery driver makes what $16-$20/hr.


Kinda sad how out of touch with reality you and your flock are.

#shame
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