orange peel

adc · 03-14-2009, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by J08M3

I hear somewhere it because it's a water based paint? Or something else a bit more environmentally friendly than other paints, the downfall being the orange peel effect. Anyone able to confirm this?

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Originally Posted by Dascamel

Also wondering, is this a confirmed fact?

Yes, this is true - BMW switched to water based paint awhile ago - at least as far as the E46 cars, if not earlier. I read a detailed article/explanation about it.

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Originally Posted by argonboy

General functioning is important, Oil level (once the low level light comes on), and grip. Besides that it'll still be BMW no matter what.

That may be true for a $2k 318i rattlebox, perhaps people can expect a little more for $60-70,000?

adc · 03-14-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by doba_s

well, if OP is so concerned about that , then the BEST and the SMARTEST thing to do is to compare it to the other cars at the dealership ! If your car is different then you can approach BMW reps right there and show them the problem ...

What kind of helpful info about your paint can you get here ? I want to see him coming to the dealer and telling them that some guy on the forum told him that is it not normal !

My dealer only has one Jerez M3 and it's not sitting in the showroom - it would be pretty hard to show up, compare and complain about it.

Which is why I was wondering if any owners have noticed exagerated orange peel on the darker colors (IB and JB), compared to the lighter colors.

I thought this is exactly what these forums are supposed to be about - discussing cars and asking questions. But, do feel free to take it out on me - I don't own an M3 yet, I'm just a lowly 335i owner.

gthirtyfizle · 03-14-2009, 05:38 PM

Honestly, I like the orange peel. It looks like the paint is always wet. After a frsh coat of wax it looks sick lol. Call me crazy, but thats just me.

sales@ESSTuning · 03-14-2009, 06:31 PM

My JB has it

all the dark cars at the dealership had it and all the M3's had it as well.

signes · 03-14-2009, 09:59 PM

JB peel, nothing better...

Mr Tonka · 03-14-2009, 11:04 PM

My silvergrey E46 had NO orange peel. My spacegrey E92 has friggin cantaloupe peel.

doba_s · 03-15-2009, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by adc

My dealer only has one Jerez M3 and it's not sitting in the showroom - it would be pretty hard to show up, compare and complain about it.

Which is why I was wondering if any owners have noticed exagerated orange peel on the darker colors (IB and JB), compared to the lighter colors.

I thought this is exactly what these forums are supposed to be about - discussing cars and asking questions. But, do feel free to take it out on me - I don't own an M3 yet, I'm just a lowly 335i owner.

you don't have to necessarily compare it to another M3 ... BMW factory uses the same painting robots to paint M3s, 335s, and all other cars ...

yes you can discuss cars here and all the issues that you have , but I honestly don't think any BMW dealership or BMW of NA for that matter going to reimburse you for having orange peel on your car ... and they definitely not going to lemon that car ...

So ... this thread is pointless ...

503Alex · 03-15-2009, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Patricius

Hate to say it, but unless there is visibly flawed over or under spray, orange peel of various degrees will show up. Unfortunately, I think wet sanding the entire car is the only option. The only manufacturer that does this (by hand) to my knowledge is Aston Martin. Or maybe it was Bentley? Either way, way more money than BMW price range.

We're having the M3 wets-anded. Our quote was $750.

signes · 03-15-2009, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MP0WER

My spacegrey E92 has friggin cantaloupe peel.

LOL...

kmarei · 03-15-2009, 12:24 PM

you should see the orange peel i have on my Melbourne Red!!!

signes · 03-15-2009, 02:32 PM

Ice storm FTW

spyderco10 · 03-16-2009, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by kmarei

you should see the orange peel i have on my Melbourne Red!!!

aw man, this looks disgusting!

carlos3679 · 03-17-2009, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MP0WER

My silvergrey E46 had NO orange peel. My spacegrey E92 has friggin cantaloupe peel.

LMAO!!! that was too funny...

ersin · 03-17-2009, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by doba_s

what is wrong with orange peel ... does it affect performance of the car ?

Sure. Orange peel increases the drag coefficient. That probably knocks about .0001 seconds off of your 0 - 60 time.

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Originally Posted by doba_s

or does it make you car look like 1989 civic ?

Just the opposite. Civics don't have orange peel.

BTW, I think $750 to wet sand it is not too bad. It's the word "sand" that scares me.

ersin · 03-17-2009, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by xin861nan863

The fetters of the heart Become one of the best Were the advantages of defeat The child is an Esperanto Gold bowl

Aw, man! Not this again.

SPQR M3 · 03-23-2009, 06:34 AM

^^^

Guys, excuse my ignorance and naivety, but what is orange peel and also what is wet-sanding?

J08M3 · 03-23-2009, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SPQR M3

^^^

Guys, excuse my ignorance and naivety, but what is orange peel and also what is wet-sanding?

Look closely at your paint and you will notice the texture is similar to that of an orange.

watrob · 03-23-2009, 08:32 AM

I went over my MR with a fine tooth comb and I have to say I have no orange peel.

Then again these cars cost $200k fully optioned up here in Australia so they maybe paying a little more attention to the paintwork, who knows? but if it did have orange peel I would not have accepted it, not at $200k

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gthirtyfizle Colonel 191 Rep 2,867 Posts Drives: E92 M3 AW Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: NYC iTrader: (4)	Honestly, I like the orange peel. It looks like the paint is always wet. After a frsh coat of wax it looks sick lol. Call me crazy, but thats just me.
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sales@ESSTuning 391 Rep 3,149 Posts Drives: ESS M3 / M4 Join Date: May 2007 Location: AZ iTrader: (6)	My JB has it all the dark cars at the dealership had it and all the M3's had it as well.
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signes Brigadier General 201 Rep 4,318 Posts Drives: 991 GT3 RS Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Living at (almost...) 9k iTrader: (5)	JB peel, nothing better...
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Mr Tonka is probably out riding. 6058 Rep 2,292 Posts Drives: Something Italian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Sweatypeninsula iTrader: (0)	My silvergrey E46 had NO orange peel. My spacegrey E92 has friggin cantaloupe peel. __________________ "There is no greater tyranny than that which is perpetrated under the shield of the law and in the name of justice. -Charles de Secondat"
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kmarei Major General 687 Rep 6,845 Posts Drives: 2018 Audi RS5 coupe Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Reston, VA iTrader: (34) Garage List 2018 Audi RS5 [0.00]	you should see the orange peel i have on my Melbourne Red!!!
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SPQR M3 First Lieutenant 43 Rep 330 Posts Drives: 2009 E92 325i Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	^^^ Guys, excuse my ignorance and naivety, but what is orange peel and also what is wet-sanding?
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