M3 vs GTR in another spec

Archon · 12-08-2008, 02:22 PM

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=137346

Woah! two major price changes in under a year!

No LC next year too, wtf!

The GTR is a faster car but worth 20k+ more? No way.

swamp2 · 12-08-2008, 02:38 PM

Ugh, another price increase.

In the article they say "boost margins". I would call that spinning. I'd be willing to bet it is "cut losses" to be perfectly honest. I posted a quick "back of the envelope" calculation long ago here that showed the GT-R was likely losing money on every car sold at the initial price. These multiple and large price increases are indications I was correct.

E90ice · 12-08-2008, 03:27 PM

I'd take an M3 over that ANY day. Nissan can keep the 20k extra.
Who cares about a few tenths of a second faster?

gthirtyfizle · 12-08-2008, 03:49 PM

I think edmunds tested out the GTR without LC and it did 0-60 in 4.3. Sorry guys but this can no longer b considered a supercar, being that its only about .3 tenths of a sec quicker then the M3 im willing to bet with a few good mods and chip then M3 will keep up easily.

spearfisher · 12-08-2008, 04:17 PM

93 k wow, a bit pricey

Ryan(e92) · 12-08-2008, 06:31 PM

Everyday Nissan comes closer and closer to reality. So that puts the v-spec GTR in the 150k range?

Krueger///M3 · 12-08-2008, 06:42 PM

Wow, no LC, $90k (over $68k initially), what a joke this is turning into.

FStop7 · 12-08-2008, 06:50 PM

$93k.. now we're getting into GT3 territory, and there is no way I would take a GTR over a GT3.

MMMorish · 12-08-2008, 08:23 PM

I still think it's ugly!

michaeldorian · 12-08-2008, 11:56 PM

Wow that is pricey. Makes the 09 ones, which on still on eBay seems like a deal.

bocabill · 12-09-2008, 12:35 AM

Another ugly, overpriced, Japanese piece of junk. The M3 is art in motion.

watrob · 12-09-2008, 12:44 AM

It's still just a Nissan, no heritage there!

swamp2 · 12-09-2008, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by gthirtyfizle

I think edmunds tested out the GTR without LC and it did 0-60 in 4.3. Sorry guys but this can no longer b considered a supercar, being that its only about .3 tenths of a sec quicker then the M3 im willing to bet with a few good mods and chip then M3 will keep up easily.

Pretty sure I have seen better for the GT-R without LC. Either way to 100 or in the 1/4 with or without LC it will tromp the M3. However, the M3 definitely has done better. Its best to 60 has been 4.1 and average is about 4.4. Have a look here at this useful performance "database" for the M3.

Sticky · 12-09-2008, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by FStop7

$93k.. now we're getting into GT3 territory, and there is no way I would take a GTR over a GT3.

GT3 territory? That is barely used 997 GT3 territory.

Sticky · 12-09-2008, 04:54 AM

That price does not really apply, it is a converted number from Japanese currency.

Regardless, the GTR is growing on me. Ugh, I need a supercharger.

footie · 12-09-2008, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by swamp2

Pretty sure I have seen better for the GT-R without LC. Either way to 100 or in the 1/4 with or without LC it will tromp the M3. However, the M3 definitely has done better. Its best to 60 has been 4.1 and average is about 4.4. Have a look here at this useful performance "database" for the M3.

I thought the only 4.1s times for the M3 were with roll out. The 4.3s time for the GTR was without LC and roll out.

ismelllikepoop · 12-09-2008, 08:21 AM

man these posts on here are why so many ppl rag on bmw owners, sound like insecure cocks

josephr25 · 12-09-2008, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ismelllikepoop

man these posts on here are why so many ppl rag on bmw owners, sound like insecure cocks

It lets them feel good about themselves owning a BMW; more so because of a nice little "M" badge.

Let's see these people engineer a better car than Nissan, rather than buy one that is subjectively better; which any idiot can do

The GTR may be ugly but it's faster than a lot of cars out there even without LC. Which was kinda its point to begin with. I would rather have an M3 but even then I would be b*tching about a lot of things about my car.

spearfisher · 12-09-2008, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by watrob

It's still just a Nissan, no heritage there!

it does have a heratige, just not as prestigeous as the M brand, but a huge cult following none the less and always better performance numbers.
always electronics ahead of it's time.

just never a fan of the styling, but no one can debate the performance.

lucid · 12-09-2008, 10:54 AM

Sounds like the folks who bought the initial GTR batches at MSRP made a good investment...

michaeldorian · 12-09-2008, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by lucid

Sounds like the folks who bought the initial GTR batches at MSRP made a good investment...

Definately. Still quite a few 09's available on eBay and at dealers for near current MSRP. Anyone's who looking, might be a good time.

th3Stig · 12-11-2008, 09:19 PM

lucid, especially if you aren't ever going to launch it.

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swamp2 Lieutenant General 609 Rep 10,407 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Diego, CA USA iTrader: (3)	Ugh, another price increase. In the article they say "boost margins". I would call that spinning. I'd be willing to bet it is "cut losses" to be perfectly honest. I posted a quick "back of the envelope" calculation long ago here that showed the GT-R was likely losing money on every car sold at the initial price. These multiple and large price increases are indications I was correct.
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gthirtyfizle Colonel 191 Rep 2,867 Posts Drives: E92 M3 AW Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: NYC iTrader: (4)	I think edmunds tested out the GTR without LC and it did 0-60 in 4.3. Sorry guys but this can no longer b considered a supercar, being that its only about .3 tenths of a sec quicker then the M3 im willing to bet with a few good mods and chip then M3 will keep up easily.
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Sticky Banned 78 Rep 2,244 Posts Drives: E92 Jerez DCT M3 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Anaheim Hills / Malibu iTrader: (0)	That price does not really apply, it is a converted number from Japanese currency. Regardless, the GTR is growing on me. Ugh, I need a supercharger.
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