S65 max oil

Erickuokwa · 06-03-2018, 04:04 AM

I have a oil drain plug leak so I add oil over time to maintain the bar at the middle line. Recently I checked my oil to see if I needed to add more but it says max oil, is this a sensor issue? Or other possible problems

Helmsman · 06-03-2018, 04:22 AM

Seriously, any thoughts about fixing the leak mate?

Erickuokwa · 06-03-2018, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Helmsman

Seriously, any thoughts about fixing the leak mate?

Yes I'm planning to do a full fluid change, bushing, motor mounts, rod bearings, and fixing that leak all together once I get a few thousand miles on this oil first

Mvy · 06-03-2018, 07:28 AM

The oil sensor is notorious for being slow to read actual oil levels. When you see "MAX" check the control messages to make sure that its not overfilled. It can sometimes just mean you have filled to the top of the range and it settles a bit shortly after driving around. Its not an issue to fix unless the control message says engine is overfilled.

If you see a message about it being overfilled, that is when you would have to take action to drain a little, most easily, from the oil filter area.

WingZeroX5 · 06-03-2018, 10:14 AM

If you have an oil drain plug leak, wouldn't it be easier to replace the drain plug? It's 5 dollars at most.

///M Power-Belgium · 06-03-2018, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by WingZeroX5

If you have an oil drain plug leak, wouldn't it be easier to replace the drain plug? It's 5 dollars at most.

90% chance the screw thread is damaged.

WingZeroX5 · 06-03-2018, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

90% chance the screw thread is damaged.

Ah i see. What about rethreading them?

///M Power-Belgium · 06-03-2018, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by WingZeroX5

Ah i see. What about rethreading them?

Positive . Can be done ..

6ixSpd · 06-03-2018, 11:32 PM

Yes it does. I've personally seen "Oil Level Too High" at least on cars with iDrive before.

msan · 06-03-2018, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Mexican Women

the electric oil level reader in these cars does not warn you of overfilling.

You are very wrong

Nikru274 · 06-03-2018, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by msan

You are very wrong

You are very right..it's true, it does tell you when you level is over filled.

Nikru274 · 06-03-2018, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Erickuokwa

Yes I'm planning to do a full fluid change, bushing, motor mounts, rod bearings, and fixing that leak all together once I get a few thousand miles on this oil first

Good choice. I ran into the same problem. Bought the M, did an oil change and found the drain to be stripped. Perfect excuse to do all of the above. Go with BE bearings

My temporary drain plug leak fix was a butterfly valve, you can find them at any local auto parts store. Fix for the 1000$ new pan was a heli coil. No more leak.

Good luck!

Big Mexican Women · 06-04-2018, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikru274

You are very right..it's true, it does tell you when you level is over filled.

hmm.. it doesnt on the non-M models. great.

Ngilbe36 · 06-04-2018, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Mexican Women

hmm.. it doesnt on the non-M models. great.

The non-M models also dont come with a V8 that takes 9L of 10W60 and about 1 million other things.

Ab28 · 06-04-2018, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Mexican Women

the electric oil level reader in these cars does not warn you of overfilling.

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Originally Posted by Big Mexican Women

hmm.. it doesnt on the non-M models. great.

1) couldn't be more false

2) not sure why you'd respond to a thread only pertaining to an M engine with information about a non-M car.

Mvy · 06-04-2018, 08:22 AM

max.pdf Just so you can see what I am talking about, here's a screen shot of overfill in the control menu. If I saw this after driving very gingerly and then restarting the car, I would be opening the oil filter area to remove some oil. I've seen this message just after filling 8.5 qts knowing it was not overfull and after driving around the block it went away. The sensor is very touchy.

eatsleepboost · 06-04-2018, 09:09 AM

Max fill is fine. Min level is also fine. Every car has a range of about 1L that the engine can safely operate at. Only above and below those is when action needs to be taken. It is a good idea to add 1/2 liter or so when you reach minimum to ensure it doesn't drop below minimum.

So no, max isn't a sensor issue or other issues. It is a proper accurate reading.

Big Mexican Women · 06-04-2018, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by lat77

1) couldn't be more false

2) not sure why you'd respond to a thread only pertaining to an M engine with information about a non-M car.

I would've never thought BMW adds a different oil level sensor for the M3...

GORDON.M3 · 06-04-2018, 09:48 PM

Many owners who have a stripped oil pan drain plug would use a time-sert to successfully repair it.

Erickuokwa · 06-06-2018, 04:57 AM

Here's a photo for reference, note that before I was at the middle and I have a oil leak as well

Mvy · 06-06-2018, 09:36 AM

The exclamation point in the diamond symbol means you have control messages. Check there to see if it shows overfull. Nice mileage btw.

Erickuokwa · 06-06-2018, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mvy

The exclamation point in the diamond symbol means you have control messages. Check there to see if it shows overfull. Nice mileage btw.

All of them are because I need to code out my rear lights since I did a lci conversion

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Mvy Captain 541 Rep 979 Posts Drives: 2008 E93 M3 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: GA Peach iTrader: (0)	The oil sensor is notorious for being slow to read actual oil levels. When you see "MAX" check the control messages to make sure that its not overfilled. It can sometimes just mean you have filled to the top of the range and it settles a bit shortly after driving around. Its not an issue to fix unless the control message says engine is overfilled. If you see a message about it being overfilled, that is when you would have to take action to drain a little, most easily, from the oil filter area. __________________ Harrop Supercharger, BPM Tune, K/W Coil over kit, Stoptek BBK, Magnaflow exhaust, ear to ear grin everytime I drive... Last edited by Mvy; 06-03-2018 at 07:41 AM..
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Mvy Captain 541 Rep 979 Posts Drives: 2008 E93 M3 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: GA Peach iTrader: (0)	max.pdf Just so you can see what I am talking about, here's a screen shot of overfill in the control menu. If I saw this after driving very gingerly and then restarting the car, I would be opening the oil filter area to remove some oil. I've seen this message just after filling 8.5 qts knowing it was not overfull and after driving around the block it went away. The sensor is very touchy. __________________ Harrop Supercharger, BPM Tune, K/W Coil over kit, Stoptek BBK, Magnaflow exhaust, ear to ear grin everytime I drive... Last edited by Mvy; 06-04-2018 at 08:41 AM..
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eatsleepboost Captain 420 Rep 656 Posts Drives: Evo Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Boston iTrader: (1)	Max fill is fine. Min level is also fine. Every car has a range of about 1L that the engine can safely operate at. Only above and below those is when action needs to be taken. It is a good idea to add 1/2 liter or so when you reach minimum to ensure it doesn't drop below minimum. So no, max isn't a sensor issue or other issues. It is a proper accurate reading.
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Mvy Captain 541 Rep 979 Posts Drives: 2008 E93 M3 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: GA Peach iTrader: (0)	The exclamation point in the diamond symbol means you have control messages. Check there to see if it shows overfull. Nice mileage btw. __________________ Harrop Supercharger, BPM Tune, K/W Coil over kit, Stoptek BBK, Magnaflow exhaust, ear to ear grin everytime I drive...
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