IS-F Tune Released

[davcrz5]

Looks like currently I/H/E and Tune should net between 440 and 450 whp, There also working on 80mm throttle body which should be ready in few weeks with SC ready late spring early summer. Cost for tune $750 with free up dates for first year, if you add SC, cams etc, cost for updates $200 to $300. RR Racing states there not done with this tune that they will continue to improve it, and are urging ISF owners to data logg there cars on race track, dyno pulls, and just daily driving, send in that data not only to improve the performance of there vehicle but all owners of this tune. Very commendable of the shop true enthusiast also makes for very good business practices.

[Properstyle]

It took so long because there really wasnt' a need for it. Like the RCF people are putting as much as 200 shots of spray on the stock ecu and the cars ecu adapts for it so quickly they are able to go with out it.

[FFM]

Thanks Marshall for letting everyone know, now Im going to have a hard time finding one. People are back in the market like crazy over this. Over 400whp NA with nearly that much to match is pretty nuts. Especially considering the car is 10x more reliable than a C63 which has similar torque feels.

The supercharger option puts it over the top for me. It's now the front runner for my vehicle search. If I find a comp package white/red DCT e92 obviously I will jump on it, but I like the idea of a supercharged ISF I can commute with worry free well into the 100k mile mark.

[ISFPOWER]

Originally Posted by wheatpaste

Don't forget the idiotic tailpipes.

bugatti veyron



audi r8 v10





lol, i guess idiotic, no reason to buy this bugatti or r8 now.

[Properstyle]

Originally Posted by FFM

Especially considering the car is 10x more reliable than a C63 which has similar torque feels.

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What type of crack have you been smoking lol.. 10x more reliable than a c63 lol and no the tq is not similar in feel at all lol...

[ISFPOWER]

lets just give it to lexus on doing 8 gears direct shift first. now the vette c7 zo6 has it, every car has 8 gears now when they said the ISF had too many gears. this "fake exhaust", every car has it now too. Lexus is already matching performance of these so called "the standard" model cars in such a small amount of time. Lexus sales are huge and has the highest resale value year after year with the reliability score always high . lets just give props where props is due.

but even with all of that, i would still choose the new m4 over the rcf, lol. they did good with the m4. finally fast now.

[FFM]

Originally Posted by Properstyle

What type of crack have you been smoking lol.. 10x more reliable than a c63 lol and no the tq is not similar in feel at all lol...

There's a shit ton of ISF on the forums that are well into the 100k mark that have never had anything more than oil changes. Good luck saying the same regarding a C63. Not even a C63 owner would risk an out of warranty ownership. Put down the denial brother.

Also, yeah the 5 liter in the ISF has torque, something the E92 does not have much of. So when I say "torque feels" it's a pretty accurate statement, considering their tune is producing close to 400wtq. Way more low end grunt than the S65.

Im sorry if that rustles your jimmies, but the fact that the Lolexus is likely to last twice the lifetime of our beloved Bavarian cars is quite a reality.

[Z K]

Originally Posted by Dan37Tz

Well that would be entirely subjective, I must admit when the ISF first came out I was not a huge fan. It wasn't love at first sight like the E9x M3 was for me, but over time the looks has really grown on me. I think it looks fantastic now and seems to age a bit better than the E9x M3. Again, all subjective.

Lack of manual transmission kills it for me. That's why I picked the M3. It's the only one out of all these super sport sedans that has a manual transmission.

I would still pick a IS350 over an ISF over the looks alone.

The new Lexus cars are even uglier so I won't go there. They look like deformed mutant aliens.

[ISFPOWER]

Originally Posted by Z K

Lack of manual transmission kills it for me. That's why I picked the M3. It's the only one out of all these super sport sedans that has a manual transmission.

I would still pick a IS350 over an ISF over the looks alone.

The new Lexus cars are even uglier so I won't go there. They look like deformed mutant aliens.

so you would pick m3 over isf because of the "transmission", yet you would choose the is350 over isf for "looks". Lol, ok, strong logic there bud.


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[Z K]

Originally Posted by ISFPOWER

so you would pick m3 over isf because of the "transmission", yet you would choose the is350 over isf for "looks". Lol, ok, strong logic there bud.

That is logical. The IS350 looks much better. My friend had a IS350 X Sport Package and I thought that was a very nice looking car.

The ISF has vents, holes, a rounded front bumper that looks like the front bumper of a Beetle and a huge round hood that looks like a giant forehead sticking out. Basically took the good looking sleek IS and made it ugly. Not to mention they didn't even add widebody - instead sticking to the regular narrowbody of the normal IS. Some people will complain about the fake tailpipes built into the bumper but I don't really care about that.

[Properstyle]

Originally Posted by FFM

There's a shit ton of ISF on the forums that are well into the 100k mark that have never had anything more than oil changes. Good luck saying the same regarding a C63. Not even a C63 owner would risk an out of warranty ownership. Put down the denial brother.

Also, yeah the 5 liter in the ISF has torque, something the E92 does not have much of. So when I say "torque feels" it's a pretty accurate statement, considering their tune is producing close to 400wtq. Way more low end grunt than the S65.

Im sorry if that rustles your jimmies, but the fact that the Lolexus is likely to last twice the lifetime of our beloved Bavarian cars is quite a reality.

Sounds like your another person who clearly doesn't own one while speculating> We are on our second which was well out of warranty and only let it go because we were hit in a collision that totaled the car. My wife DDs hers and beats the hell out it.and I can assure you tuned ISF vs Tuned C63 is night and day lol..

Sorry your feelings are hurt about your lexus dream which you compared 5.0 tq to a 6.2 there buddy lol. You might want to check the sig I own both a c63 and SC e90. After superchargering there is defenitfly no need for low end tq but you wouldn't know while speculating like you are now.

I'm also no sure what you are on because 60 present of c63s are out of warranty being they were made from 08 up. I guess you forgot that there are quite a larger number of people with SUPERCHARGED c63s try going to benz with a blower on and tell me about how you have a warranty.

[PizzaHut]

Originally Posted by Z K

That is logical. The IS350 looks much better. My friend had a IS350 X Sport Package and I thought that was a very nice looking car.

The ISF has vents, holes, a rounded front bumper that looks like the front bumper of a Beetle and a huge round hood that looks like a giant forehead sticking out. Basically took the good looking sleek IS and made it ugly. Not to mention they didn't even add widebody - instead sticking to the regular narrowbody of the normal IS. Some people will complain about the fake tailpipes built into the bumper but I don't really care about that.

I think you're a bit over exaggerating with the front end. In real life it's much more subtle than you describe, I personally think the regular IS250/350 has a pretty short nose that gives it a stubby look.

The ISF is over 3 inches longer, also wider, about 1 inch wider actually (Z K should go look up exterior dimensions before posting), with a powerdome hood, it's lower and the vents are all functional, I think it really evens out the look and make it look a ton better than the regular "frumpy" looking IS. Again this is all subjective though.

Regular IS has a short narrow sloping front that looks a bit stubby.



ISF front is longer + wider and the hood has a power bulge to fit that 5.0L V8, I think it really evens out the proportions and gives it a much more substantial presence.

[818m3e92]

Originally Posted by Dano335i

Well actually an ISF and E90 M3's are pretty much identical in straight line acceleration. Roughly 12.7 @ 113-114mph cars average, DCT M3's might have a slight advantage off the line if you used launch control but they trap roughly the same.

That's like saying you raced an E90 M3, he got the jump but he became a spec in your review mirror by 65-70mph. Doubt it with a 400whp 335i. You sure you didn't race an IS250 F-Sport? They have badges and ground effects that mimic an ISF, sorta. They're like the 328i M-sport equivalents.

'RUSSIANS'

[FFM]

Originally Posted by Properstyle

Sounds like your another person who clearly doesn't own one while speculating> We are on our second which was well out of warranty and only let it go because we were hit in a collision that totaled the car. My wife DDs hers and beats the hell out it.and I can assure you tuned ISF vs Tuned C63 is night and day lol..

Sorry your feelings are hurt about your lexus dream which you compared 5.0 tq to a 6.2 there buddy lol. You might want to check the sig I own both a c63 and SC e90. After superchargering there is defenitfly no need for low end tq but you wouldn't know while speculating like you are now.

I'm also no sure what you are on because 60 present of c63s are out of warranty being they were made from 08 up. I guess you forgot that there are quite a larger number of people with SUPERCHARGED c63s try going to benz with a blower on and tell me about how you have a warranty.

Someones jimmies are rustled. I'm glad your C63's have been "reliable". The cost of ownership deters most people. Here's an alternative that's made by a brand centered around reliability, which happens to be a contender now. Hard to deny its a good option for long term usage.

[davcrz5]

[QUOTE=Dan37Tz;19263654]Well that would be entirely subjective, I must admit when the ISF first came out I was not a huge fan. It wasn't love at first sight like the E9x M3 was for me, but over time the looks has really grown on me. I think it looks fantastic now and seems to age a bit better than the E9x

Hey Dan37tz nice observation, got me thinking why ISF seems to have aged better than M3.

When the isf first came out in 2008, it was criticized heavily by the auto journalist, autoblogs and vlogers on Everything from its 8 speed directions Shift transmission, the side Vents on its front fenders, the power dome hood and of course the Infamous diffuser exhaust tips. Some critic's called it to boy racer looking.

Now,fast foward 8 year And all the things that it was criticized for, have now become standard on so many different types of cars from BMW, Ferrari, Audi, Mercedes,GM, Ford and list goes on and on.

Lets take BMW, they adopted 8 speed trans, front fender vents, powerdome type front ends, and that infamous diffuser exhuast tips, so has Mercedes and few others.

C7 Stingray now Utilizes 8 speed trans, big fender vents

Ferrari California, R8, RS4,AMG GT, all use very Component Such as diffuser exhaust tips, 8 speed trans, side vents on fenders.

I think one reason ISF is holding up and is not looking as data as its Contemporaries of the same time period such as C63 and M3 is tbe fact that ISF has many of style and performance cues that are being used on current models just my opinion.

Here are some modern Examples of exhaust diffuser, side vents, power dome hoods

[PizzaHut]

You are correct DaveCRZ5, I don't understand why "enthusiasts" like Z K would diss the ISF for having functional heat extraction side vents ect... Also what's wrong with a big power dome hood to house a 400+HP V8? Last I remember the E90/92 M3's have a huge lump in the middle of the hood also with vents on either side..

Looks like a lot of current high performance cars took inspiration..

For example these guys with their fender vents also.

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[Properstyle]

Originally Posted by FFM

Someones jimmies are rustled. I'm glad your C63's have been "reliable". The cost of ownership deters most people. Here's an alternative that's made by a brand centered around reliability, which happens to be a contender now. Hard to deny its a good option for long term usage.

The problem here is again assumptions, have your priced out the ISF brake job? or the RCF, have you priced out the transmission flush? neither are cheap on either vehicle.

Now if paying for breaks and tires which is the biggest cost on a c63 deters you then you shouldn't own any high performance car. The only issues the earlier model 08 build c63 was stretching the head bolts which was covered by benz but no other issue has plague that car and it's sales number were actually pretty damn high so this what deterred people here and there nonsense is laughable, no one cares about comparing cars it's people speaking in what they don't know on two cars they have never owned that irritates me.

The ISF is a beast and if you read the comment I made before you spoke about c63 reliblity you will see I spoke highly of the RCF and ISF. style wise they may be concider the best looking maybe second to the f80 m3.

[davcrz5]

Originally Posted by Properstyle

The problem here is again assumptions, have your priced out the ISF brake job? or the RCF, have you priced out the transmission flush? neither are cheap on either vehicle.

Now if paying for breaks and tires which is the biggest cost on a c63 deters you then you shouldn't own any high performance car. The only issues the earlier model 08 build c63 was stretching the head bolts which was covered by benz but no other issue has plague that car and it's sales number were actually pretty damn high so this what deterred people here and there nonsense is laughable, no one cares about comparing cars it's people speaking in what they don't know on two cars they have never owned that irritates me.

The ISF is a beast and if you read the comment I made before you spoke about c63 reliblity you will see I spoke highly of the RCF and ISF. style wise they may be concider the best looking maybe second to the f80 m3.

You are correct these cars are expensive to maintain I just did front rotors and pads, when I recently hit 60,000 miles. New brembo front rotors and project mu pads cost for both $850

All three cars had their growing pains especially in the first model year of 2008 the c63 had the bolt issue the m3 had DCT problems and the ISF had a few leaky water pumps. By 2010 most the issues had been resolved by redesigned new flashes whatever it took to fix the problems.

As far as reliability is concerned all these cars are pretty reliable if I had to rate them I would say the isf #1, c63 #2 and the m3#3. I'm basing my ranking on a few areas JD Powers reliability rating as well as general knowledge on all three vehicles. Actually mercedes-benz is ranked number 8 in overall reliability by JD Powers Lexus is ranked number 1 and bmw is ranked number 18.

But enough about reliability beating that to death already let's go back to the original OP question regarding the tune availability for the ISF and its potential in the future

Pic of before and after rotor and pads changed

[ISFPOWER]

Originally Posted by Properstyle

The problem here is again assumptions, have your priced out the ISF brake job? or the RCF, have you priced out the transmission flush? neither are cheap on either vehicle.

Now if paying for breaks and tires which is the biggest cost on a c63 deters you then you shouldn't own any high performance car. The only issues the earlier model 08 build c63 was stretching the head bolts which was covered by benz but no other issue has plague that car and it's sales number were actually pretty damn high so this what deterred people here and there nonsense is laughable, no one cares about comparing cars it's people speaking in what they don't know on two cars they have never owned that irritates me.

The ISF is a beast and if you read the comment I made before you spoke about c63 reliblity you will see I spoke highly of the RCF and ISF. style wise they may be concider the best looking maybe second to the f80 m3.

a set of 4 brembo brand rotors are 420 shipped. easy to put on.

our transmission suppose to be a lifetime fluid. no need to flush. just get it topped off and leveled for the transmission to act correctly . so no, its not expensive. we have members who send their fluid samples so there is no need to flush anything. ive owned this car nearly 5 years. nothing breaks, i beat it on it hard and its as cheap to maintain as my daily driver camry. the maintenance interval is actually almost exactly the same as the camry.

although im not the one who brags about reliability like the next guy who would brag about gas mileage. if you can afford it, it doesn't matter. i dont look as gas mileage when i buy a performance car as much as i dont look at reliability if i can afford the maintenance but i guess its not bad to have.

[Properstyle]

Originally Posted by ISFPOWER

a set of 4 brembo brand rotors are 420 shipped. easy to put on.

our transmission suppose to be a lifetime fluid. no need to flush. just get it topped off and leveled for the transmission to act correctly . so no, its not expensive. we have members who send their fluid samples so there is no need to flush anything. ive owned this car nearly 5 years. nothing breaks, i beat it on it hard and its as cheap to maintain as my daily driver camry. the maintenance interval is actually almost exactly the same as the camry.

although im not the one who brags about reliability like the next guy who would brag about gas mileage. if you can afford it, it doesn't matter. i dont look as gas mileage when i buy a performance car as much as i dont look at reliability if i can afford the maintenance but i guess its not bad to have.

the only person bragging about it is the person who doesn't own any of the cars mentioned lol.... Btw please don't quote prices out side of dealer as that's the only thing that makes maintence expenssive on any car. My z getting work done on the dealer would cost as much as a Benz lol... N e ways. I'm not sure I would really worry about a all motor tune on a isf when the doing a 100 shot works so well on it.

[FFM]

Lol that stating openly discussed opinions is bragging. We live in the age of the internet where everything is readily available. You don't have to own anything to know everything about it damn near. Defensive much.

[Properstyle]

Originally Posted by FFM

Lol that stating openly discussed opinions is bragging. We live in the age of the internet where everything is readily available. You don't have to own anything to know everything about it damn near. Defensive much.

Lol wow Realy guy. please tell me what it's like to own a lambo....