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      11-16-2019, 05:07 AM   #23
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Exactly what I thought, your insights helped me make a decision.
Will post pics when I get it
Amazing community BTW !!!
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      11-18-2019, 06:08 PM   #24
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redline on 4 is how fast?
I was joking, cop.

125 seems fast. I for sure was moving during the test drive but i don't recall going that fast, specifically. I do recall hitting redline in M mode 3 times in a row. Could have been 1, 2, 3. Or maybe i was going that fast. I don't know.
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      11-18-2019, 10:37 PM   #25
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Let me give you a comparison of speed. The other day I was in my DD, a stage 1 535xi wagon. There was a riced out and decatted 350z weaving in and out of traffic, tailgating, etc. I end up at the front of a light next him, and decided to mess with him for being such a dick. My fatty wagon completely blew the doors off him, even at speed. He then proceeded to try and race a Chrysler 200, which was just as fast as him...

Comparing my bone stock E92 to my tuned wagon, my E92 completely mops the floor with it in acceleration and handling. Though an auto, AWD and turbo torque makes the wagon really quick on city streets.
Sorry to threadjack the OP. For straight line low down torque, the 135i with a tune is a monster. I had one for a while. Got bored of it after I started to appreciate more than straight line speed.
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      11-19-2019, 01:03 AM   #26
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My wife drives a QX70S with the 3.7L VQHR or whatever the engine is called. I do like that engine but itís comparable to an N55, not an S65.

Hope you went back for a proper test drive. Post up photos and details when you take delivery! Congrats!
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      11-20-2019, 02:35 AM   #27
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The VQ motor has strong mid range.
Sadly I suspect a Z would be pretty even with a E92 forced to shift at 6KRPM.
Our cars are gutless gas guzzlers, till 6K when they become banshee gas guzzlers..
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      11-20-2019, 02:28 PM   #28
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The VQ motor has strong mid range.
Sadly I suspect a Z would be pretty even with a E92 forced to shift at 6KRPM.
Our cars are gutless gas guzzlers, till 6K when they become banshee gas guzzlers..
Highly doubt that. The VHR 3.7 rated at 330 hp dynos in the 250-260 range, I can only imagine a first gen 280hp DE motor will dyno around the low 200's.
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      11-20-2019, 04:08 PM   #29
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For the most fun opt for a manual and learn to heel&toe. Once you mastered it (which few people do) you're in high revving heaven. The engine becomes a musical instrument and you have control over the intensity of your blips. You can anticipate having to re-accelerate after a braking much better. The bonus is you can overdo blips before coming to a full stop causing head turning at will, which you cannot with a dct until fully stopped in neutral.
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      11-20-2019, 05:12 PM   #30
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The VQ motor has strong mid range.
Sadly I suspect a Z would be pretty even with a E92 forced to shift at 6KRPM.
Our cars are gutless gas guzzlers, till 6K when they become banshee gas guzzlers..
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Highly doubt that. The VHR 3.7 rated at 330 hp dynos in the 250-260 range, I can only imagine a first gen 280hp DE motor will dyno around the low 200's.
While I also would bet on the M versus the 280hp Z, keep in mind a stock S65 is only putting around ~275whp at 6K. I bet a 370Z (with the 330hp 3.7L) would win (again, M3 shifting at 6K), given the weight difference as well.
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      11-20-2019, 05:20 PM   #31
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The S65 has tech advantages like the fantastic intake path and the ITBs. I was pretty surprised to find out that the VQs don't really have oil cooling unless it's a Nismo, they run pretty hot, coupled with a small oil capacity of like 5 liters.
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      11-21-2019, 01:54 AM   #32
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If the M3 had to shift at 6k RPMs then a 350z would be just as fast?

Okay okay. My turn to play the random hypotheticals game!

If you prevented a 911 GT2 RS steering wheel from turning more than 10 degrees in either direction, the 350z would beat it around the Nurburgring.

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      11-21-2019, 02:32 AM   #33
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^ Except this wasnít a random hypo. OP went for a test drive, owner told him to keep it under 6K, and he came here asking why it didnít feel faster than his Z. Answer: because under those experienced conditions, it wasnít much faster, if it all.
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25hp difference @ 6k, which checks out given the weight difference.

The Zs aren't bad cars by any means, it's a great platform. You do have to upgrade the cooling, intake, TBs, exhaust, etc to bring to the M3s level though.
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      11-21-2019, 04:17 AM   #35
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Under 6 it's tame, go beyond n u'll get that grin! 7500 is the sweet spot, where u can still get some pull up to 8500. You can't go wrong, smiles per mile.
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Earlier this year, I had a late night run with a 370Z that was modded with at least wheels, suspension and exhaust. I was driving lazy and left the 6MT in 6th. I donít know what gear he was in or what trans he had, but he took off and it was a close run ó he pulled ahead but then I stayed with him and very slowly walked past near the end of the run from 70 to 140. I have a tune, xpipe, intake, rear exhaust and pulley. I was probably hitting 6000 when the pull ended.

Obviously if I had dropped to 3rd at the start, he would have seen only taillights. I am getting lazier so my next car will be a pdk or DCT or auto.
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