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They don't even touch the car eh. Well I guess I wasted a 10 hour drive and all my money when I went to AA and had my car custom dyno tuned by them. I definitely didn't see him touch my car. The fact is this is a Houston GB Dyno Charts post and he posted 2 plots that had NOTHING to do with the Houston GB. He took two cheap shots at AA, and I stand by what I said.
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Thanks Mike for the great help and it was the first version (1.0) of AA tune.
I did not get the update because no one at AA return my calls and the 6 weeks late email reply that I got from them. I was busy the last few weeks but I will dyno the car again by the end of the month to proof the numbers.
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12-07-2009, 06:41 PM | #26 |
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I had my car dynoed by Fabspeed the day I had my HFC and X Pipe installed. Jeremy read the dyno and asked me if I had an AA tune. I said yes and i asked him how he knew. He said that the numbers were lower than some stock cars he has dynoed. He said that every car he has dynoed with the AA tune has had lower HP/TQ number then stock. I really didnt believe him until my friend dynoed his stock car there with the HFC and X Pipe and had 20+ more HP than me. I will be willing to do a dyno with the AA tune and then with the Powerchip tune to see which has more HP/TQ.
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That is the exact response I got from AA....NOTHING .
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Yep, with the AA tune my car was down 20whp from where it should have been. It was okay with just a pulley and secondary cat delete, but no bueno with HFC's and an axle back. DoNDoN I had my car dynoed by Fabspeed the day I had my HFC and X Pipe installed. Jeremy read the dyno and asked me if I had an AA tune. I said yes and i asked him how he knew. He said that the numbers were lower than some stock cars he has dynoed. He said that every car he has dynoed with the AA tune has had lower HP/TQ number then stock. I really didnt believe him until my friend dynoed his stock car there with the HFC and X Pipe and had 20+ more HP than me. I will be willing to do a dyno with the AA tune and then with the Powerchip tune to see which has more HP/TQ.
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If Omar really stands behind their tune he should offer a refund to those who lost power with their tunes (with proof of course). The first thing Powerchip told me was that if I wasn't pleased with my tune that my money would be refunded. How about it OMAR?? Step up man .
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I personally stand behind every customer that goes through me. That means that whether I work with Powerchip or not, I will go out of my way to make sure my customers are happy - Period.
There's nothing wrong with standing by a product that you believe in and use every day It seems from reading the posts above that there is a bigger picture here....
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I 'm not holding grudge against AA because I really like there products. I had the AA tune on May 2009 and I really liked it but Powerchip is the next level.
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12-07-2009, 11:28 PM | #32 |
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AA still has a few fanboi's around...
King Tut didn't like LMB because he called out AA on their products too. All AA has to do is prove people wrong... which they can't seem to do anymore. Now they complain about anyone who bashes their products but have NOTHING to prove these people wrong. And they spam for Jordan and ADV. That pretty much says it all for me. I remember back in the E36 days when they were king and gave great service. I didn't have the cash to get their stuff back then. Now I've got the cash, and wouldn't touch their stuff. My how the mighty have fallen. .
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Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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I've watched AA closely and their support and development on the 335i tunes was less than acceptable to me, I see a repeat performance.
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12-08-2009, 03:36 AM | #34 |
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i dont know AA well, and i hate to talk shit, but i got to say, when this many people on here are saying the same about them, it says something. AA should chime back in. If people were saying something about my company and it wasnt true i would prove it. Otherwise its safe to assume everyone is right
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And again, I'm someone who always respected AA and wanted to, and did buy their products. But things started going bad with the N54 tune, like Danny said. Now you lose power with the S65 tune (at least the original tune).
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Hmmm, still no response Omar?? So, I take it that I'll be ignored again ....wow this just speaks volumes about your lack of concern for customers' happiness.
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As far as supporting customers goes, that is priority on my list. I can always be reached via phone and I reply to everyone via PM or email regardless of time and place. If one or two slip through the cracks or spam I am here 5 days a week. Our newest updates, version 1.5 have been offered to all customers free of charge. We will continue to offer any upgrades at no cost. We have spent a lot of time with R&D on our E9x M projects and are pleased with what we see. We have never been one to enter claimed HP 'wars' and will not do that now, IE N54 market. The support is here and it will continue to be here. We had the pleasure of doing a custom tune on King Tut's car and that worked out well. Active Autowerke has several different fronts that we need to address on a daily basis. I hope you guys can understand this. If there are any other questions or concerns please feel free to contact me directly via PM or via phone. Thank You. |
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So, is that a "NO" to us customers who deserve a refund for your "Bimmerfest Special?" Also, I left you THREE messages, and never got a call back. I'm pretty sure that confirms that I did my part about contacting you.
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Powertrip, I am going to spend time debating dyno charts, etc. We have several guys with gains from our software and they have proved it with those charts on the forums. We have a new upgrade, 1.5 that is also offered at no cost to the consumer. This is software we are talking about, we didnt begin doing this yesterday. We were one of the first on the market for this car and continue to learn different things through our FI program. We never stop working on any of our projects because we are never satisfied. To answer your question, if there is anyone with an issue regardless of version 1 or 1.5, we will support the product until your are satisfied. On the N54 program we decided to take the safer route and we are still very active with our N54 products. To come on here making these claims based on another companies 'dyno' run is unfair. Manipulating dyno charts is one of the easiest things to do and is definitely a cheap shot. |
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http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=316265 You saw the results and posted in my thread by the way. I haven't gotten back to a Dynojet yet though.
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Never called anyone a liar my friend. This thread seems like it will continue going until i begin to bleed part of the industry i guess... We all dish it out so I can accept it sometimes, just have to clarify what needs to be clarified. We will continue to support our software and all upgrades through our dealers or through AA directly. Thank you to everyone for your opinions on this matter. I will gracefully bow out. Best, |
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hug it out.
I am not a big fan of AA anymore but honestly, a lot of this stuff should be kept to PM or phone.
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