BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > E90/E92 M3 Technical Topics > Track / Autocross / Dragstrip / Driving Techniques
 
BPM
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      03-01-2022, 06:31 PM   #20725
k_mann
Lieutenant
k_mann's Avatar
386
Rep
450
Posts

Drives: 2018 M2
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Kansas City

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2018 BMW M2  [10.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redd View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by k_mann View Post
Either way, I'd skip powerflex and go for these, I can't imagine those are much quieter and the turner rear delrin has a nice preload setting feature.
Your car is 6MT? 6MT diff bushes are quieter than DCT. Delrin would be a lot louder on a DCT car.
It is. Dct is geared shorter I take it so it's spinning faster at same speed?
__________________
Current: 2018 M2 DCT
Previous: 2011 E92 M3, 2007 E92 328xi

Insta: @kmannc
Appreciate 0
      03-01-2022, 08:40 PM   #20726
Redd
Brigadier General
4136
Rep
4,360
Posts

Drives: 2010 BMW E92 M3 Dakar Edition
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Malaysia

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by k_mann View Post
It is. Dct is geared shorter I take it so it's spinning faster at same speed?
Not sure what is the reason. Maybe just the way DCT works?
Appreciate 0
      03-02-2022, 10:31 AM   #20727
Rochen_00
Second Lieutenant
Rochen_00's Avatar
356
Rep
259
Posts

Drives: M3 e92
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Catalonia

iTrader: (0)

Hi everybody, i have a doubt. I have been recommended solid subframe bushings and purple powerflex bushings for the diff. My doubt comes to whether instead of putting powerflex, go to the strongflex brand. So in strongflex what do you recommend? The yellow ones or the red ones?

I use my car about 6 tracks a year more or less...

Thank you all!
__________________
Instagram: @m_rochen

Alpinemss Tuned | Tecnocraft E9X ///M3 Envy™ Intake System | MS Pulleys | Akrapovic Evolution Exhaust | Ohlins Road&track| BBK Brembo 6p Front & Brembo 4p Rear| H&R Stabilisator| Solid subframe bushings| full spherical bushings| Recaro pole position
Appreciate 0
      03-02-2022, 01:54 PM   #20728
k_mann
Lieutenant
k_mann's Avatar
386
Rep
450
Posts

Drives: 2018 M2
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Kansas City

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2018 BMW M2  [10.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochen_00 View Post
Hi everybody, i have a doubt. I have been recommended solid subframe bushings and purple powerflex bushings for the diff. My doubt comes to whether instead of putting powerflex, go to the strongflex brand. So in strongflex what do you recommend? The yellow ones or the red ones?

I use my car about 6 tracks a year more or less...

Thank you all!
Looks like strongflex is an eu brand so you won't get much feedback from our side of the pond. General consensus over here is powerflex purple is the best upgrade over stock without going too aggressive. That said, if you're 6mt I just did delrin and find them to be very tolerable
__________________
Current: 2018 M2 DCT
Previous: 2011 E92 M3, 2007 E92 328xi

Insta: @kmannc

Last edited by k_mann; 03-02-2022 at 02:40 PM..
Appreciate 1
Rochen_00355.50
      03-02-2022, 03:43 PM   #20729
Bartledoo
Driver
Bartledoo's Avatar
2695
Rep
2,715
Posts

Drives: 2011 E90 M3 6MT
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Seattle, WA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by k_mann View Post
Looks like strongflex is an eu brand so you won't get much feedback from our side of the pond. General consensus over here is powerflex purple is the best upgrade over stock without going too aggressive. That said, if you're 6mt I just did delrin and find them to be very tolerable
I would not recommend the powerflex after having used them. I’m solid now, but I thought the ecstuning poly option looked better. The powerflex bolt sleeve is too narrow imo. Mine tore out with track use.
__________________
E90M 6MT Slicktop Single Humper in need of a diet
Appreciate 2
Rochen_00355.50
k_mann386.00
      03-02-2022, 04:12 PM   #20730
rhyary
Banned
United_States
1610
Rep
2,883
Posts

Drives: 2013 M3
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Albany, NY

iTrader: (0)

I need recommendations for a webcam for my windows laptop that is better then the low grade built in.

Every review on Amazon says something negative on these Webcams.

Hope someone here is happy with something i can get on Amazon.

TIA
Appreciate 0
      03-02-2022, 05:17 PM   #20731
omgzirra_exe
Lieutenant Colonel
omgzirra_exe's Avatar
United_States
1669
Rep
1,877
Posts

Drives: 4.4L M3, IS300
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Long Beach, CA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by rhyary View Post
I need recommendations for a webcam for my windows laptop that is better then the low grade built in.

Every review on Amazon says something negative on these Webcams.

Hope someone here is happy with something i can get on Amazon.

TIA
wtf? lol
__________________
Build: ZillaSpec M3 N1 Build
M3Post Track General Discussion: Discord
#fakeGTS
Appreciate 2
      03-02-2022, 06:29 PM   #20732
Redd
Brigadier General
4136
Rep
4,360
Posts

Drives: 2010 BMW E92 M3 Dakar Edition
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Malaysia

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochen_00 View Post
Hi everybody, i have a doubt. I have been recommended solid subframe bushings and purple powerflex bushings for the diff. My doubt comes to whether instead of putting powerflex, go to the strongflex brand. So in strongflex what do you recommend? The yellow ones or the red ones?

I use my car about 6 tracks a year more or less...

Thank you all!
Powerflex Purple is 80A hardness. PU is PU, just pick the equivalent from Strongflex.

If you have a 6MT you can probably get away with harder diff bushings cos 6MT whines less than DCT.
Attached Images
 
Appreciate 2
Rochen_00355.50
k_mann386.00
      03-02-2022, 06:55 PM   #20733
Bartledoo
Driver
Bartledoo's Avatar
2695
Rep
2,715
Posts

Drives: 2011 E90 M3 6MT
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Seattle, WA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redd View Post
Powerflex Purple is 80A hardness. PU is PU, just pick the equivalent from Strongflex.

If you have a 6MT you can probably get away with harder diff bushings cos 6MT whines less than DCT.
The PU may be PU, but the sleeve diameter chosen by the manufacturer affects deflection and tear out, and how much vibration damping occurs.
__________________
E90M 6MT Slicktop Single Humper in need of a diet
Appreciate 0
      03-02-2022, 06:57 PM   #20734
Redd
Brigadier General
4136
Rep
4,360
Posts

Drives: 2010 BMW E92 M3 Dakar Edition
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Malaysia

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bartledoo View Post
The PU may be PU, but the sleeve diameter chosen by the manufacturer affects deflection and tear out, and how much vibration damping occurs.
Yes agree. That's a design thing. I was just answering the question on Powerflex v Strongflex equivalent.
Appreciate 0
      03-02-2022, 07:02 PM   #20735
Bartledoo
Driver
Bartledoo's Avatar
2695
Rep
2,715
Posts

Drives: 2011 E90 M3 6MT
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Seattle, WA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redd View Post
Yes agree. That's a design thing. I was just answering the question on Powerflex v Strongflex equivalent.
We can’t really compare 80A powerflex vs 80A strongflex (assuming they have an 80A option) without knowing, as they will perform differently given different dimensions.
__________________
E90M 6MT Slicktop Single Humper in need of a diet
Appreciate 0
      03-02-2022, 08:01 PM   #20736
Rochen_00
Second Lieutenant
Rochen_00's Avatar
356
Rep
259
Posts

Drives: M3 e92
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Catalonia

iTrader: (0)

Thank you very much everyone for the answers, it is appreciated to have a community like this
__________________
Instagram: @m_rochen

Alpinemss Tuned | Tecnocraft E9X ///M3 Envy™ Intake System | MS Pulleys | Akrapovic Evolution Exhaust | Ohlins Road&track| BBK Brembo 6p Front & Brembo 4p Rear| H&R Stabilisator| Solid subframe bushings| full spherical bushings| Recaro pole position
Appreciate 0
      03-02-2022, 09:08 PM   #20737
k_mann
Lieutenant
k_mann's Avatar
386
Rep
450
Posts

Drives: 2018 M2
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Kansas City

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2018 BMW M2  [10.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redd View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by k_mann View Post
It is. Dct is geared shorter I take it so it's spinning faster at same speed?
Not sure what is the reason. Maybe just the way DCT works?
I guess my argument was why someone would go with poly over delrin though. Based on how 6mt poly diff has been reviewed vs delrin, sounds like the noise difference is marginal. I would guess that translates to dct too, poly and delrin being close in volume on the dct.
__________________
Current: 2018 M2 DCT
Previous: 2011 E92 M3, 2007 E92 328xi

Insta: @kmannc
Appreciate 0
      03-02-2022, 10:55 PM   #20738
derbo
Derbo Tuning
derbo's Avatar
3657
Rep
3,049
Posts

Drives: BMW M3
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Bay Area, CA

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by rhyary View Post
I need recommendations for a webcam for my windows laptop that is better then the low grade built in.

Every review on Amazon says something negative on these Webcams.

Hope someone here is happy with something i can get on Amazon.

TIA
use a GoPro lol
__________________
IG:ruhrohz_m3
Journal: Link
E9x ZCP Suspension Info: Link
Track Chat Discord: https://discord.gg/VsKbTyqBVj
Appreciate 0
      03-02-2022, 11:21 PM   #20739
okusa
Lieutenant Colonel
okusa's Avatar
No_Country
876
Rep
1,699
Posts

Drives: 2011.75 E90 M3 - SSII
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (7)

Quote:
Originally Posted by rhyary View Post
I need recommendations for a webcam for my windows laptop that is better then the low grade built in.

Every review on Amazon says something negative on these Webcams.

Hope someone here is happy with something i can get on Amazon.

TIA
Razer Kiyo
__________________
Appreciate 0
      03-03-2022, 02:45 AM   #20740
Rochen_00
Second Lieutenant
Rochen_00's Avatar
356
Rep
259
Posts

Drives: M3 e92
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Catalonia

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Redd View Post
Powerflex Purple is 80A hardness. PU is PU, just pick the equivalent from Strongflex.

If you have a 6MT you can probably get away with harder diff bushings cos 6MT whines less than DCT.
Seeing this, you make it very clear to me that the equivalent of the purple powerflex in the strongflex brand are the red ones.

Thanks a lot!
__________________
Instagram: @m_rochen

Alpinemss Tuned | Tecnocraft E9X ///M3 Envy™ Intake System | MS Pulleys | Akrapovic Evolution Exhaust | Ohlins Road&track| BBK Brembo 6p Front & Brembo 4p Rear| H&R Stabilisator| Solid subframe bushings| full spherical bushings| Recaro pole position
Appreciate 0
      03-05-2022, 01:16 PM   #20741
k_mann
Lieutenant
k_mann's Avatar
386
Rep
450
Posts

Drives: 2018 M2
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Kansas City

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2018 BMW M2  [10.00]
Anyone driven both the rt660 and ecf? Sounds like ecf is definitely harder wearing, wonder if it's close in pace to the rt660?
__________________
Current: 2018 M2 DCT
Previous: 2011 E92 M3, 2007 E92 328xi

Insta: @kmannc
Appreciate 0
      03-05-2022, 08:41 PM   #20742
fsmtnbiker
First Lieutenant
620
Rep
327
Posts

Drives: E92 M3, Evora S, E36
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Phoenix, AZ

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by k_mann View Post
I guess my argument was why someone would go with poly over delrin though. Based on how 6mt poly diff has been reviewed vs delrin, sounds like the noise difference is marginal. I would guess that translates to dct too, poly and delrin being close in volume on the dct.
Delrin vs Powerflex on my (DCT) car was a massive difference. The car was basically undriveable with the delrin. No way to talk to the passenger at highway speeds. Powerflex was much better but I have the same opinion as Bartledoo that their design is not great, mine also ripped apart.

I have ECS poly now and they’re as loud as the delrin was. Really annoying.
Appreciate 2
Bartledoo2694.50
k_mann386.00
      03-05-2022, 08:46 PM   #20743
slcook54
Captain
slcook54's Avatar
1865
Rep
893
Posts

Drives: 2012 MR M3 / 2018 SMB M3 CS
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: San Francisco

iTrader: (0)

Hadn't heard this re: diff bushings. What's the consensus for an HPDE car? Stay stock?
__________________
Instagram: slcook54
Appreciate 0
      03-05-2022, 09:05 PM   #20744
roastbeef
Lieutenant General
roastbeef's Avatar
United_States
11659
Rep
12,770
Posts

Drives: E92 M3
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Orange County, CA

iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by slcook54 View Post
Hadn't heard this re: diff bushings. What's the consensus for an HPDE car? Stay stock?
no, solid is the way to go. people say powerflex purple is less noisy for the diff. subframe can be solid without extra noise.
__________________
Instagram; @roastbeefmike
Appreciate 2
rhyary1609.50
Rochen_00355.50
      03-05-2022, 09:10 PM   #20745
slcook54
Captain
slcook54's Avatar
1865
Rep
893
Posts

Drives: 2012 MR M3 / 2018 SMB M3 CS
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: San Francisco

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by roastbeef View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by slcook54 View Post
Hadn't heard this re: diff bushings. What's the consensus for an HPDE car? Stay stock?
no, solid is the way to go. people say powerflex purple is less noisy for the diff. subframe can be solid without extra noise.
I am definitely not running solid diff mounts, my car is still driven to the track and will see infrequent street time. What's the downside of solid subframe and stock diff bushings? Snapping diff bolts?
__________________
Instagram: slcook54
Appreciate 0
      03-05-2022, 09:17 PM   #20746
roastbeef
Lieutenant General
roastbeef's Avatar
United_States
11659
Rep
12,770
Posts

Drives: E92 M3
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Orange County, CA

iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by slcook54 View Post
I am definitely not running solid diff mounts, my car is still driven to the track and will see infrequent street time. What's the downside of solid subframe and stock diff bushings? Snapping diff bolts?
yea, you'd be putting that entire strain on the diff bolts. the subframe moves about 1/2" with decent acceleration. i'd say you want it to all flex, or none at all rather than have it transferred all to the diff mounts.
__________________
Instagram; @roastbeefmike
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:35 AM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST