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      05-10-2024, 04:07 PM   #23871
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I don’t know why this thought hasn’t occurred to me yet, but is there any hope for taking out the rear quarter glass and rear window without breaking it?
If it’s just gunna break I might as well bash it with a hammer to remove it.
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I don’t know why this thought hasn’t occurred to me yet, but is there any hope for taking out the rear quarter glass and rear window without breaking it?
If it’s just gunna break I might as well bash it with a hammer to remove it.
rear quarter, open your door and literally pull the trim to the front of your car and it will unlock and slide off. then just remove the rest of the trim that goes from the back of the rear quarter and over to the roof to the front, it's all one long piece...just pull on it.

once you get the trim off you can literally take a razer and scrape the glue off the back of the rear window and take it off.

rear glass, remove trim. use razor blade to scrap underneath the glass to loosen glue, take a pry tool and lift the window up, and make your own little tool by 2 cylindered pieces of wood (what ever gives you a good grip) and a loooooooooooooooooong fishing line, probably something like 15lb test line.. and insert it thru the gap between the rear glass and chassis, and on inside of the car, you just have to have someone help you "saw" thru the glue.. this should help remove it with out breaking the glass.
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i have no clue... i just recall signs of the highway saying Towing = x speed limit LOL
It varies state by state lol. Pretty sure 55mph is the statewide law for trailers in CA.
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I just want to be clear that I'm not fast enough (or hard enough on the car) to need these, but based on what I've seen them go for, I couldn't pass these up. A guy here in town was parting a few cars out and I noticed them in one of the pictures, got the full front/rear set for $3500.

There's some light corrosion on a few of the bolt heads and some areas where the finish slightly rubbed off on the edges of the calipers, so if anybody has pointers on addressing that stuff before installation, that'd be appreciated.
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There's some light corrosion on a few of the bolt heads and some areas where the finish slightly rubbed off on the edges of the calipers, so if anybody has pointers on addressing that stuff before installation, that'd be appreciated.
great pick up, $3500 and about $2000 for replacement 4x rotor rings, new hardware. And caliper rebuild kit probably. and you still have a cheaper full AP kit lol

someone will probably correct pricing, but for my alcon kit its $1400 for new rotor rings with hardware. i'm guessing the other $600 is rebuild kit for the caliper(s)
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great pick up, $3500 and about $2000 for replacement 4x rotor rings, new hardware. And caliper rebuild kit probably. and you still have a cheaper full AP kit lol

someone will probably correct pricing, but for my alcon kit its $1400 for new rotor rings with hardware. i'm guessing the other $600 is rebuild kit for the caliper(s)
yeah that's kind of what I figured. I don't need to use them right away, but when I do, it'll be cheaper no matter what. and if I never do, I'm pretty sure I can flip them for a profit.

I haven't seen anything about them that would tell me that they would need replacement (and the rotor rings actually look pretty decent up close)
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yeah that's kind of what I figured. I don't need to use them right away, but when I do, it'll be cheaper no matter what. and if I never do, I'm pretty sure I can flip them for a profit.

I haven't seen anything about them that would tell me that they would need replacement (and the rotor rings actually look pretty decent up close)
i mean if they are off the car already and unsure of the real condition of it.. just rebuild the caliper while its off at least, and replace the rotor rings w/ hardware at a later time.

just get them checked by a shop that knows AP stuff. should be fine to use right away.
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rear quarter, open your door and literally pull the trim to the front of your car and it will unlock and slide off. then just remove the rest of the trim that goes from the back of the rear quarter and over to the roof to the front, it's all one long piece...just pull on it.

once you get the trim off you can literally take a razer and scrape the glue off the back of the rear window and take it off.

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Just picked up some v730’s (275/35/18) and headed to my first day with them today. Any recommendations on cold/hot pressure targets? Looks like it’s going to be ~92 degrees at Buttonwillow today. Car is around stock weight, I run intermediate group, and care more about longevity than absolute lap times. They’re replacing some RS4’s.
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Just picked up some v730’s (275/35/18) and headed to my first day with them today. Any recommendations on cold/hot pressure targets? Looks like it’s going to be ~92 degrees at Buttonwillow today. Car is around stock weight, I run intermediate group, and care more about longevity than absolute lap times. They’re replacing some RS4’s.
I liked 30 hot but some say 32 is a better target for this tire. I was at a cool day at Laguna that eventually rained so I needed to get a bit more heat into the tire.
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I liked 30 hot but some say 32 is a better target for this tire. I was at a cool day at Laguna that eventually rained so I needed to get a bit more heat into the tire.
Thanks. Seems like a good place to start.
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Soubds like you’ve done it before…
I know too much and nothing at all at the same time...
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Thanks. Seems like a good place to start.
you probably wont like them the first track day.. they really need a proper heat cycle to wake up.

i set most of my 200Tw tires to 28-30psi cold.. and target like 33-35psi hot. full weight car also

i've also tried running it really cold at 23psi aiming for 30psi hot and i liked it also lol

alignment dependent of course..
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you probably wont like them the first track day.. they really need a proper heat cycle to wake up.

i set most of my 200Tw tires to 28-30psi cold.. and target like 33-35psi hot. full weight car also

i've also tried running it really cold at 23psi aiming for 30psi hot and i liked it also lol

alignment dependent of course..
I ended up going with 27 cold. I think I like them so far. That’s good to know they should wake up some more. They were getting a little greasy about 2/3 of the way through sessions, but seemed to recover pretty well if I took a 7/10 lap around halfway through the later sessions when the track was getting hot.
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I ended up going with 27 cold. I think I like them so far. That’s good to know they should wake up some more. They were getting a little greasy about 2/3 of the way through sessions, but seemed to recover pretty well if I took a 7/10 lap around halfway through the later sessions when the track was getting hot.
this post is well timed. i'm putting my v730s on this week
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this post is well timed. i'm putting my v730s on this week
There we go. The universe provides.

I think they can run lower, but was happy enough with what I went with for my first day on them.
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so i'm going to try out carbotech pads once my current set of ferodos goes bye bye. do you guys sand down your rotors when swapping compounds, or is that overkill? i've seen it recommended by various mfgs.
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so i'm going to try out carbotech pads once my current set of ferodos goes bye bye. do you guys sand down your rotors when swapping compounds, or is that overkill? i've seen it recommended by various mfgs.
i love my carbotech pads. i run xp12 and xp10.

i use dish soap and water to clean my rotors when i swap pads lol gotta get a DEEP Clean on those.
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I don't clean the rotors and with PFC pads, I didn't even bother bedding them in unless they were brand new.

With bedding in CarboTech pads, if you do it right, you'll notice they start fading quite a bit towards the end. After the cool off period, they're great.

I still don't know how people use XP12 and XP10s. XP12s only lasted me 3 days while I get more out of XP20s.
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I don't clean the rotors and with PFC pads, I didn't even bother bedding them in unless they were brand new.

With bedding in CarboTech pads, if you do it right, you'll notice they start fading quite a bit towards the end. After the cool off period, they're great.

I still don't know how people use XP12 and XP10s. XP12s only lasted me 3 days while I get more out of XP20s.
it because i'm running the 25mm variant. i should remove them and see what the pad thickness is lol
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it because i'm running the 25mm variant. i should remove them and see what the pad thickness is lol
Have you had it before? You might get more days out of it with the higher temp compound.
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Have you had it before? You might get more days out of it with the higher temp compound.
first time running the carbotechs, tbh, haven't found a need to replace them just yet.. although i did eye ball the XP20

and i DO have a pair of XP20 i will try later this year.

haven't tracked at all this year..so we'll see how i fare these days.
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