getting tired

[jd501]

Originally Posted by GT3fan

If a person has the financial means to buy a high dollar sports car, go for it! Cars are an emotional purchase for some.

Personally, I think a 991.1 gt3 is on a different planet compared to e92 m3. The m3 is bargain today at $20-30k, but is nowhere near a gt3 in overall experience. I have a 997 gt3 and the motor itself was worth the price of admission. Cheaper than a 991, but has the rawness I desire.

A c6 z06 would be a much better choice than an e90/92 m3. It destroys our m3s in performance capability for just a few dollars more. In fact, I will probably get a c6z eventually for a fun car. Lots of great performance car options out there for modest sums of money!

Also, its unfair to compare a 10 year old sporty car that is near fully depreciated price wise to a 991 gt3 that is one of today’s exceptions to depreciation.

To this point, I'm fascinated by what the C8 is going to do (already has done?) to the C6/7 used market.

[GT3fan]

Originally Posted by jd501

To this point, I'm fascinated by what the C8 is going to do (already has done?) to the C6/7 used market.

Same here.

I’m excited to see when they release a z06 version. Maybe near McLaren performance for under $100k?

[spiderspider]

yeah i think i want a corvette now.

[Bemo]

Originally Posted by GT3fan

If a person has the financial means to buy a high dollar sports car, go for it! Cars are an emotional purchase for some.

Personally, I think a 991.1 gt3 is on a different planet compared to e92 m3. The m3 is bargain today at $20-30k, but is nowhere near a gt3 in overall experience. I have a 997 gt3 and the motor itself was worth the price of admission. Cheaper than a 991, but has the rawness I desire.

A c6 z06 would be a much better choice than an e90/92 m3. It destroys our m3s in performance capability for just a few dollars more. In fact, I will probably get a c6z eventually for a fun car. Lots of great performance car options out there for modest sums of money!

Also, its unfair to compare a 10 year old sporty car that is near fully depreciated price wise to a 991 gt3 that is one of today’s exceptions to depreciation.

I hear you...my GTS isn't far behind a GT3 but I wouldn't give up my M3 for it.

My point was that, at current price differentiation levels, a GT3 would cost 5-6 times more than an E92 for perhaps 1.5 times the performance. As such, pass...

[GT3fan]

Originally Posted by Bemo

I hear you...my GTS isn't far behind a GT3 but I wouldn't give up my M3 for it.

My point was that, at current price differentiation levels, a GT3 would cost 5-6 times more than an E92 for perhaps 1.5 times the performance. As such, pass...

The e90/92 m3 is a very hard act to follow. Especially at today's prices!

[STooK]

My co-worker recently bought a Challenger R/T Scat pack with the shaker package finished in F8 Green. It looks and sounds incredible and opened up my eyes to the world of mopar and they make some cool looking and sounding cars.

Not that I'd ever sell my M3 but Dodge is something I never considered that I would now.

[i_love_cars]

I don't have a great answer for this either. I was seriously considering trying to secure an allocation for a new GT4 just last week, and put my E92 up for sale. Then I thought about it and it still doesn't make sense to dump the E92 compared to the cost of 115k for a decently optioned GT4.

Most modern cars are just a complete drag. I have considered selling my E92 and jumping into a well-done S52 swapped E30 or something. I used to have an S50 E30 trackrat and loved it. Would be nice to have one with a full interior that is streetable.

Everyone talks about GT3 but it's utterly pointless for anything other than a dedicated track car. For my money I'd rather drop 110k on a used Audi R8 V10+ spyder with a 6 speed. The high RPMs of the GT3 are fine but it still doesn't sound anywhere as good as a V8 or V10.

[pbonsalb]

At that price point you have to accept the Porsche or other $100k plus car is not 5 times better than your M3. Somewhere between 25 and 100% better depending on how you rate things. But it’s better and newer but most importantly you want it and that’s why you would pay 5 times the value of your car. I would also, if I could (can’t yet but will within the next few years).

[Shredicus]

Originally Posted by i_love_cars

I don't have a great answer for this either. I was seriously considering trying to secure an allocation for a new GT4 just last week, and put my E92 up for sale. Then I thought about it and it still doesn't make sense to dump the E92 compared to the cost of 115k for a decently optioned GT4.

Most modern cars are just a complete drag. I have considered selling my E92 and jumping into a well-done S52 swapped E30 or something. I used to have an S50 E30 trackrat and loved it. Would be nice to have one with a full interior that is streetable.

Everyone talks about GT3 but it's utterly pointless for anything other than a dedicated track car. For my money I'd rather drop 110k on a used Audi R8 V10+ spyder with a 6 speed. The high RPMs of the GT3 are fine but it still doesn't sound anywhere as good as a V8 or V10.

Amen. I recently picked up an e30 and have been getting everything to drop in a LS motor. Fun little car and project!

[JackieChiles]

Originally Posted by Bemo

It's not 5 times better, so go ahead and give up a $30k M3 for a $150k GT3 and good luck with the maintenance if you actually track it.
The motor issues on the .1GT3 are well documented...hence the extended 10-yr warranty. Once that's up and if the motor blows, hope you got $50k laying around.
The .2 is more reliable but now you're pushing $180k+ depending on options. Great cars for sure but NOT 5 times more capable than an E92, to warrant the spend.

Resale value isn’t zero, so that’s really not a fair way to look at the cost differential.

Both have good resale, with the gt cars being superior.

So I don’t think it needs to be 5 times better. But you do have to have the available cash flow to be able to afford one.

Well aware of the warranty. I’ve driven it on track and street and it’s a phenomenal experience.

[i_love_cars]

Originally Posted by Shredicus

Amen. I recently picked up an e30 and have been getting everything to drop in a LS motor. Fun little car and project!

i'm so jelly of you lol. I've spent the last few days waiting for r3vlimited forums to get back online and now that they are I'm scouring them for something

[3Pedals_6Speeds]

Originally Posted by Chromey

if you want to change to the new C8 corvette after the bugs have been worked out and the performance models are released

This new C8 is gonna be VERY interesting. I expect they're gonna tap into customers that never would have bought the old Vette's, but at the price point/performance they're operating at, you're buying a near supercar at cheap $$. I've never really been a fan, but they have my attention.

[neilum]

Originally Posted by KhaledKharma

Getting tired/bored of the ol' girl. '12 E92 zcp mineral white. Looking to get something new (to me). What car did you go to after your E9X?

The older I get the less I care about overall speed and care more about the experience and fun of it all.

I want a gt3 like the rest of us but where that line lies in terms of your financial goals, retirement and how much you want spend is a hard target.

For me I have way more important things going on than upgrading this amazing car for something better because deep down inside I know this car is really good. Of course there are newer better faster cars out there but why upgrade? At what cost? Will I get sick of that machine in 2-3 years and be back at square 0? What's the ultimate goal of all this? I've been thinking about this all lately in this material world we live in. People are constantly bored and upgrading everything. If you upgrade most things all the time whats the point of getting all excited in the first place knowing you'll just move on for the latest and "greatest in a short while"?

I get it though, the E90 M is approaching old status but I do know one thing it would have to be a gt3 or something like GT350 Mustang because I now love NA V8's. Im sold on that alone unless something completely blows me away, but then again, at what cost?????

[nycplumber]

Gotta think about what you think the car is lacking. Speed, luxury, tech, or handling? These are all easily upgradable at a fraction of the cost of moving to another platform. Supercharging or adding a few suspension parts will really transform it. They make some really good Idrive upgrades now and throwing in some custom recaros and alcantara will make it feel completely new. You can do all these options for cheaper than any of the options listed.

[pbonsalb]

I have been throwing money at my turbo E36M3 for years trying to make it perform like the Porsche Turbo that I really wanted but could not afford. It is as fast in a straight line but that’s about it. It’s definitely not the Porsche Turbo I really wanted but I still like it a lot and actually have mire fun driving itbtgan my E90M3 and in most years drive them about the same amount.

You can modify the E90M3, but you won’t turn it into a GT3.

[Yvette]

Amg gts or 991 gt3

[BimmerMan33]

Consider F82 M4?
It's similar concept (very good at multiple things) with a different take:
I6 tt motor, more potent in city driving.
Stiffer suspension/bushings gives a more connected feel.
Does not have the slight GT feel of the e9x (good thing or bad?)
Sounds good when driving aggressively, not so when cruising.

Depends on your budget, type of roads you have access to & certain must have expectations from your next car that should help you narrow it down.

As an enthusiast, I feel we should keep trying different cars for different experiences!
That being said, I am on my 5th e9x based chassis since 2009.
For me, next car ideally would be a Porsche of some kind but I don't feel like I'm done with BMW yet!

Anyway, have fun deciding, first world problems

[anselmw]

Originally Posted by i_love_cars

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The high RPMs of the GT3 are fine but it still doesn't sound anywhere as good as a V8 or V10.

Pretty much all version of the 991 GT3's including RS don't sound good without an exhaust mod. Fortunately it is very simple and one of the few inexpensive mods for these cars. Get a sharkwerks or similar center muffler and the sound will finally match the car.

To the OP, having owned a GT4 and currently a 991.2 Manual GT3, I can tell you it is the next level of sports car ownership. Yes not 5 times the current value but you need to look at msrp for better comparison. Still it will be alot more expensive but I suggest you drive one first. The GT level cars for porsche are similar step up as M is for BMW. (Note GTS is not considered a GT car, like a M235 is not a M car).

My suggestion would be a 16 GT4. They can be had in the low 80's. Perfect car to get into Porsche GT series. Yes does not have the GT3 engine but it is a perfectly balanced car that you can drive daily. Let me know if you have any questions as I really luv'd that car but getting a manual GT3 PTS made keeping it redundant, note I still have my M3!