Does anyone use an upgraded sway bar?

nycplumber · 01-12-2019, 03:17 PM

This seems like it used to be a popular upgrade but not so much anymore. I had the Dinan tubular bar on my last e92 M and I'm second guessing whether I want it again. The car is mostly street driven and has Ohlins R&T as well. I'm considering getting the H&R bar due to issues with dinan last time. Any advice or information is appreciated. Thank you!

Other suspension mods include: monoball spherical bushings on the control arms.

SAMM3Y · 01-12-2019, 03:21 PM

What were your issues with the Dinan? End link adjustments?

nycplumber · 01-12-2019, 03:27 PM

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What were your issues with the Dinan? End link adjustments?

Yes. Even at the shortest setting the Dinan ones were still longer than stock.

SAMM3Y · 01-12-2019, 03:37 PM

I have the Dinan with Ohlins road and track. I'm not partial to it and Ive never played with the adjustments for under/oversteer. I think if I were going to do it again, I'd eBay an e93 m3 one, I believe it's 3mm bigger then stock e92. I do like how the Dinan comes with the bush and fat endlinks though.

nycplumber · 01-12-2019, 04:00 PM

Ok so our setup is similar. I remember when I had changed the settings from 10/10 to 13/13 it had a ton more grip but felt a lot more body roll. It took longer to change direction but would do so with more confidence mid corner. It took a bit of getting used to. I'm thinking that if I leave the stock bar and then go to the 10/10 setting I might achieve the best of both set ups; maybe better with camber plates.

SAMM3Y · 01-12-2019, 04:19 PM

Yeah that makes sense. I haven't tracked my car since I added the sway bar, so it'll be interesting to play with the setup a little. I added monoball FCAB's and a fixed camber plate too at the time. I decided I wouldn't use adjustable camber plates until I decided whether or not to Keep the Ohlins OEM style springs. So far, for the street, I love the setup. Steering feels fantastic.

wyatth · 01-12-2019, 05:35 PM

I have the tubular Dinan bar awaiting install on my mostly-stock ZCP (camber pins removed, 255/275s). The softest setting is only 10% stiffer, IIRC, which is where I’ll start. The end links better fit.

FYI the E93 bar is only ~5% stiffer since it tapers down in the middle.

Richbot · 01-13-2019, 08:24 PM

Dinan plus Sachs coilovers here

It doesn’t suck too bad

amrazM · 01-14-2019, 01:08 AM

I’m running the eibach rsb with spl endlinks on kw cs 2w. It’s very easy to make the oversteer coming out of corners in 2nd but also I’m running stock tire sizes.

nycplumber · 01-14-2019, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SAMM3Y

Yeah that makes sense. I haven't tracked my car since I added the sway bar, so it'll be interesting to play with the setup a little. I added monoball FCAB's and a fixed camber plate too at the time. I decided I wouldn't use adjustable camber plates until I decided whether or not to Keep the Ohlins OEM style springs. So far, for the street, I love the setup. Steering feels fantastic.

Which camber plates?

SAMM3Y · 01-14-2019, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by nycplumber

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Originally Posted by SAMM3Y

Yeah that makes sense. I haven't tracked my car since I added the sway bar, so it'll be interesting to play with the setup a little. I added monoball FCAB's and a fixed camber plate too at the time. I decided I wouldn't use adjustable camber plates until I decided whether or not to Keep the Ohlins OEM style springs. So far, for the street, I love the setup. Steering feels fantastic.

Which camber plates?

Dinan

dfwashere · 01-15-2019, 06:38 AM

Running Vorshlag plates, swift springs, ohlins with Hotchkis front sway bar and Turner endlinks. For at least the way I drive, it feels fantastic. Do it

kyippee · 01-15-2019, 11:27 PM

Love it on softest setting with JRZ RS One suspension. Adjusted softer because I wanted to let the shocks do more of the work, and increase front end grip. Very balanced. Amazing mid corner grip.

nycplumber · 01-17-2019, 06:48 PM

You took off the springs that came on the Ohlins R&T and put on swift springs? I looked at the Hotchkis but thought that it might be too stiff.

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Originally Posted by dfwashere

Running Vorshlag plates, swift springs, ohlins with Hotchkis front sway bar and Turner endlinks. For at least the way I drive, it feels fantastic. Do it

What bar do you have?

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Originally Posted by kpewpew

Love it on softest setting with JRZ RS One suspension. Adjusted softer because I wanted to let the shocks do more of the work, and increase front end grip. Very balanced. Amazing mid corner grip.

dfwashere · 01-17-2019, 07:12 PM

Yes.

nycplumber · 01-18-2019, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dfwashere

Yes.

Is this vehicle your DD or is it dual purpose?

kyippee · 01-18-2019, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by nycplumber

You took off the springs that came on the Ohlins R&T and put on swift springs? I looked at the Hotchkis but thought that it might be too stiff.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dfwashere

Running Vorshlag plates, swift springs, ohlins with Hotchkis front sway bar and Turner endlinks. For at least the way I drive, it feels fantastic. Do it

What bar do you have?

Quote:

Originally Posted by kpewpew

Love it on softest setting with JRZ RS One suspension. Adjusted softer because I wanted to let the shocks do more of the work, and increase front end grip. Very balanced. Amazing mid corner grip.

Dinan front bar

dfwashere · 01-20-2019, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by nycplumber

Is this vehicle your DD or is it dual purpose?

It's both my DD and the car is take to the track when I get a chance. DD it around the SF Bay Area.

Todd0131 · 01-20-2019, 03:02 PM

Dinan here. Dual purpose.

pbonsalb · 01-20-2019, 03:50 PM

Which adjustment position?

Todd0131 · 01-20-2019, 03:56 PM

I believe we put it in the first slot. Going to play with it a bit though

nycplumber · 01-30-2019, 08:03 PM

I think I'll be choosing Dinan again. Are you guys using stock end links?

01-12-2019, 03:17 PM	#1
nycplumber Major 685 Rep 1,230 Posts Drives: slow Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: nyc iTrader: (0)	Does anyone use an upgraded sway bar? This seems like it used to be a popular upgrade but not so much anymore. I had the Dinan tubular bar on my last e92 M and I'm second guessing whether I want it again. The car is mostly street driven and has Ohlins R&T as well. I'm considering getting the H&R bar due to issues with dinan last time. Any advice or information is appreciated. Thank you! Other suspension mods include: monoball spherical bushings on the control arms.
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SAMM3Y Colonel 3085 Rep 2,747 Posts Drives: 2008 m3 Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: NorCal iTrader: (2)	What were your issues with the Dinan? End link adjustments? __________________ 9ers
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01-12-2019, 03:37 PM	#4
SAMM3Y Colonel 3085 Rep 2,747 Posts Drives: 2008 m3 Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: NorCal iTrader: (2)	I have the Dinan with Ohlins road and track. I'm not partial to it and Ive never played with the adjustments for under/oversteer. I think if I were going to do it again, I'd eBay an e93 m3 one, I believe it's 3mm bigger then stock e92. I do like how the Dinan comes with the bush and fat endlinks though. __________________ 9ers
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01-12-2019, 04:00 PM	#5
nycplumber Major 685 Rep 1,230 Posts Drives: slow Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: nyc iTrader: (0)	Ok so our setup is similar. I remember when I had changed the settings from 10/10 to 13/13 it had a ton more grip but felt a lot more body roll. It took longer to change direction but would do so with more confidence mid corner. It took a bit of getting used to. I'm thinking that if I leave the stock bar and then go to the 10/10 setting I might achieve the best of both set ups; maybe better with camber plates.
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01-12-2019, 04:19 PM	#6
SAMM3Y Colonel 3085 Rep 2,747 Posts Drives: 2008 m3 Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: NorCal iTrader: (2)	Yeah that makes sense. I haven't tracked my car since I added the sway bar, so it'll be interesting to play with the setup a little. I added monoball FCAB's and a fixed camber plate too at the time. I decided I wouldn't use adjustable camber plates until I decided whether or not to Keep the Ohlins OEM style springs. So far, for the street, I love the setup. Steering feels fantastic. __________________ 9ers
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01-12-2019, 05:35 PM	#7
wyatth Colonel 3549 Rep 2,824 Posts Drives: E90 ZCP Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (0)	I have the tubular Dinan bar awaiting install on my mostly-stock ZCP (camber pins removed, 255/275s). The softest setting is only 10% stiffer, IIRC, which is where I’ll start. The end links better fit. FYI the E93 bar is only ~5% stiffer since it tapers down in the middle.
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01-13-2019, 08:24 PM	#8
Richbot Major General 2759 Rep 5,483 Posts Drives: Jerez Black E90 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: STL iTrader: (5)	Dinan plus Sachs coilovers here It doesn’t suck too bad
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amrazM mTekMods 2142 Rep 2,901 Posts Drives: like a granny. Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Manhatan iTrader: (1)	I’m running the eibach rsb with spl endlinks on kw cs 2w. It’s very easy to make the oversteer coming out of corners in 2nd but also I’m running stock tire sizes.
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01-15-2019, 06:38 AM	#12
dfwashere Second Lieutenant 62 Rep 232 Posts Drives: 2008 E90 M3 Sedan 6Spd Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: The Bay iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 BMW [0.00]	Running Vorshlag plates, swift springs, ohlins with Hotchkis front sway bar and Turner endlinks. For at least the way I drive, it feels fantastic. Do it
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01-15-2019, 11:27 PM	#13
kyippee Lieutenant Colonel 1073 Rep 1,617 Posts Drives: E92 M3, Supra MK5, F44 235GC Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: SF Bay Area iTrader: (0)	Love it on softest setting with JRZ RS One suspension. Adjusted softer because I wanted to let the shocks do more of the work, and increase front end grip. Very balanced. Amazing mid corner grip.
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01-17-2019, 07:12 PM	#15
dfwashere Second Lieutenant 62 Rep 232 Posts Drives: 2008 E90 M3 Sedan 6Spd Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: The Bay iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 BMW [0.00]	Yes.
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01-20-2019, 03:02 PM	#19
Todd0131 Lieutenant 380 Rep 530 Posts Drives: Yukon, stumpjumper, m3 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Tx iTrader: (0)	Dinan here. Dual purpose.
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Todd0131 Lieutenant 380 Rep 530 Posts Drives: Yukon, stumpjumper, m3 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Tx iTrader: (0)	I believe we put it in the first slot. Going to play with it a bit though
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01-30-2019, 08:03 PM	#22
nycplumber Major 685 Rep 1,230 Posts Drives: slow Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: nyc iTrader: (0)	I think I'll be choosing Dinan again. Are you guys using stock end links?
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