2012 GTR = Around the 'Ring in 7:20

[Nikolas]

Originally Posted by GhostRideTheWhip

My Soon to be Cayman S would own both the GT-R and the GT3 RS

The GT-R is an engineering marvel and a bargain for the performance you are getting. I still wouldn't pay that much for a Japanese car though.

Really? for the level of performance, they are a bargain. The Cayman S is really nice - you will like it. Obviously, it is nothing like a Gt3RS. Everyone should get a ride in one to really appreciate it. They are amazing machines.

[graider]

Originally Posted by Nikolas

Man, 26000 lbs! what a beast!

ahahaha. no, it is really 26000lbs.

[MediaArtist]

Originally Posted by MikeyV

I'm not mad, it's just that you can't accept that the GTR is a great car, personally I wouldn't own one, I wouldn't buy a 911 either for that matter, all your talk about no race history is rubbish, and yes I would say it too your face.

Well lucky for me, I don't usually hang out with Volvo drivers.

[MikeyV]

Originally Posted by MediaArtist

Well lucky for me, I don't usually hang out with Volvo drivers.

That's fine as I don't usually hang out with wankers

[TK-421]

Originally Posted by MikeyV

That's fine as I don't usually hang out with wankers

LAME comeback

[MikeyV]

Ah well I couldn't think of anything better.

[graider]

Originally Posted by GhostRideTheWhip

I'm joking, but the Cayman S in my opinion is the real bargain. No other street car has the balance it has or a mid-engine. The GT-R is an amazing machine, don't get me wrong, it's just too big.

miata and s2000.

[Skeptikal12]

Originally Posted by graider

miata and s2000.

Miata and S2000 are mid engined?

Both are balanced and awesome though.

[graider]

Originally Posted by Skeptikal12

Miata and S2000 are mid engined?

Both are balanced and awesome though.

what i mean is they all provide the same nimble sensation. it doesn't really to me if it is mid/rear/front as long as the driving sensation is there.

[MediaArtist]

Originally Posted by graider

what i mean is they all provide the same nimble sensation. it doesn't really to me if it is mid/rear/front as long as the driving sensation is there.

That's a weight issue, not an engine placement issue. Any car that is sub-2500 pounds is going to feel somewhat nimble.

[graider]

Originally Posted by MediaArtist

That's a weight issue, not an engine placement issue. Any car that is sub-2500 pounds is going to feel somewhat nimble.

yeah, i was just argue with him that the cayman s is not a performance bargain.