BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > E90/E92 M3 Technical Topics > Mechanical Maintenance: Break-in / Oil & Fluids / Servicing
 
Mporium BMW
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      03-18-2019, 07:12 AM   #23
commedeschatons
Second Lieutenant
commedeschatons's Avatar
120
Rep
221
Posts

Drives: 09 m3 6mt, 14 q5 tdi str8piped
Join Date: May 2018
Location: a2

iTrader: (4)

nobody asked, but I'm running Ravenol RRS 5W50 without issues.

Strangely, they also produce a 10W50 RSE which appears to match all of the specs of their 5W50 apart from a higher HTHS closest to OEM 10W60, but both though the cold and hot viscosity is lower than 10W60s and even redline 5w50. I will probably try this one next oil change.
Appreciate 0
      03-18-2019, 08:18 AM   #24
SYT_Shadow
///M Powered for Life
SYT_Shadow's Avatar
United_States
5147
Rep
6,795
Posts

Drives: E90M/E92M/F80CS/X5 35/MiniCS
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Greenwich, CT

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by aus View Post
What does he do when he rebuilds these motors?
Are they damaged/blown?
Or is he blue printing and boring/stroking them?
.
There are not 400 S85 strokers in the USA. Those numbers provided by his followers are pure bogus

Meanwhile, I've done three thousand rod bearings jobs. I started a couple years ago and BE has only made one thousand rod bearings since they started, but I've done 3000. Maybe it was 4000, it's so hard to keep count

Anyone who has actually had a stroker built knows this is pure bullscrap. Pistons from Mahle Motorsport? That will be 12 weeks please. A balanced stroker crank? Give it another 12. Honing and boring the block? Can only be done after you have the pistons. Etc etc etc

Buy the parts ahead of time? LOL. The working capital needs would be epic

Last edited by SYT_Shadow; 03-22-2019 at 07:12 PM..
Appreciate 4
aus642.50
Malek@MRF610.50

      03-22-2019, 05:36 PM   #25
Rcase
AW M Addict
Rcase's Avatar
33
Rep
197
Posts

Drives: BMW Collector
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Austin, Tx

iTrader: (4)

I only run Redline 5w50 on S65 and S85. Its brilliant compared to stock and I cannot understand even in high temp climates where you are not tracking it - why anything but maybe 0w50 would be better?
__________________
1988 Alpine White M3 || 1999 Alpine White M3 Cab
2000 Alpine White M5 || 2001 Alpine White M3"T"
2008 Alpine White M5 || 2008 Alpine White M3 Cab
2010 Alpine White X5M || 3 Pedals Sans X5M
alpinewhitem.com //coming soon
Appreciate 1
      03-22-2019, 06:25 PM   #26
Z K
Brigadier General
Z K's Avatar
United_States
1430
Rep
4,898
Posts

Drives: E90 M3, F30 328i
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: San Francisco

iTrader: (3)

I think Redline 5w50 should be fine. Redline tends to be a thicker oil than the rating. The Redline 10w60 is way too thick. I ran it once and it was like a gel at room temperature. I drained it after a few thousand miles and went back to OEM 10w60.
__________________
Auto Detailing Enthusiast!
Appreciate 0
      03-23-2019, 03:00 PM   #27
commedeschatons
Second Lieutenant
commedeschatons's Avatar
120
Rep
221
Posts

Drives: 09 m3 6mt, 14 q5 tdi str8piped
Join Date: May 2018
Location: a2

iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rcase View Post
I only run Redline 5w50 on S65 and S85. Its brilliant compared to stock and I cannot understand even in high temp climates where you are not tracking it - why anything but maybe 0w50 would be better?
The only 0W50 im aware of is made by ENEOS, and i dont think anyone would be better off with this over Redline or Amsoil. Its noack is double that of other 5w50s.

https://www.eneos.us/product/eneos-r...0USA&radius=50
Appreciate 0
      03-23-2019, 06:11 PM   #28
dparm
World's greatest HPDE driver
dparm's Avatar
United_States
2490
Rep
7,565
Posts

Drives: C7 Corvette Grand Sport
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Dallas, TX

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by commedeschatons View Post
The only 0W50 im aware of is made by ENEOS, and i dont think anyone would be better off with this over Redline or Amsoil. Its noack is double that of other 5w50s.

https://www.eneos.us/product/eneos-r...0USA&radius=50

Mobil 1 has a 0w50 racing oil but it's got insane ZDDP and will destroy your cats, among other things.
__________________
Now: 2017 Corvette Grand Sport
Past: 2011.5 M3 sedan ZCP
Appreciate 1
      03-24-2019, 12:14 AM   #29
commedeschatons
Second Lieutenant
commedeschatons's Avatar
120
Rep
221
Posts

Drives: 09 m3 6mt, 14 q5 tdi str8piped
Join Date: May 2018
Location: a2

iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by dparm View Post
Mobil 1 has a 0w50 racing oil but it's got insane ZDDP and will destroy your cats, among other things.
Curiosity already killed my cats
Appreciate 4
      03-24-2019, 09:17 PM   #30
6ixSpd
Save the manuals!
6ixSpd's Avatar
Canada
5268
Rep
6,287
Posts

Drives: '12 M3 6MT
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: 416

iTrader: (4)

Any info on using Castrol Edge 5W50? It's on sale locally at almost half price and I'm tempted to try out this summer.
__________________
'12 M3 6MT Alpine White + Fox Red Extended

@tailor.mad3
Appreciate 0
      03-24-2019, 09:47 PM   #31
dparm
World's greatest HPDE driver
dparm's Avatar
United_States
2490
Rep
7,565
Posts

Drives: C7 Corvette Grand Sport
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Dallas, TX

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 6ixSpd View Post
Any info on using Castrol Edge 5W50? It's on sale locally at almost half price and I'm tempted to try out this summer.
What do you want to know? It's a niche product (aimed at some Ford Performance vehicles that require 5w50) and isn't what BMW specifies.
__________________
Now: 2017 Corvette Grand Sport
Past: 2011.5 M3 sedan ZCP
Appreciate 0
      03-24-2019, 09:50 PM   #32
6ixSpd
Save the manuals!
6ixSpd's Avatar
Canada
5268
Rep
6,287
Posts

Drives: '12 M3 6MT
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: 416

iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by dparm View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by 6ixSpd View Post
Any info on using Castrol Edge 5W50? It's on sale locally at almost half price and I'm tempted to try out this summer.
What do you want to know? It's a niche product (aimed at some Ford Performance vehicles that require 5w50) and isn't what BMW specifies.
If it's comparable to the Redline stuff other members here use on their cars. In which case I'd try it out.
__________________
'12 M3 6MT Alpine White + Fox Red Extended

@tailor.mad3
Appreciate 0
      03-24-2019, 10:42 PM   #33
dparm
World's greatest HPDE driver
dparm's Avatar
United_States
2490
Rep
7,565
Posts

Drives: C7 Corvette Grand Sport
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Dallas, TX

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 6ixSpd View Post
If it's comparable to the Redline stuff other members here use on their cars. In which case I'd try it out.
Very different products. Red Line is a boutique oil targeted at the aftermarket and is heavy on the POE for basestock. Castrol is targeted at the broader market and is [likely] group III + IV.

I would not consider those two oils "comparable" except in their viscosity grade.
__________________
Now: 2017 Corvette Grand Sport
Past: 2011.5 M3 sedan ZCP
Appreciate 2
      03-24-2019, 10:55 PM   #34
6ixSpd
Save the manuals!
6ixSpd's Avatar
Canada
5268
Rep
6,287
Posts

Drives: '12 M3 6MT
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: 416

iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by dparm View Post

Very different products. Red Line is a boutique oil targeted at the aftermarket and is heavy on the POE for basestock. Castrol is targeted at the broader market and is [likely] group III + IV.

I would not consider those two oils "comparable" except in their viscosity grade.
Thank you for the feedback!
__________________
'12 M3 6MT Alpine White + Fox Red Extended

@tailor.mad3
Appreciate 0
      03-25-2019, 01:51 PM   #35
ItsGary
Colonel
ItsGary's Avatar
Canada
1391
Rep
2,327
Posts

Drives: 2009 E90 M3
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Vancouver

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 6ixSpd View Post
Any info on using Castrol Edge 5W50? It's on sale locally at almost half price and I'm tempted to try out this summer.
I put 1L of Castrol 5W50 a few months ago after I burned 1L of 10W60LM. Surprisingly I didn't have to add a litre again after 4k KMs, when I was using LM I had to add once every 1.5k-2k so I basically had a mix of 8L of 10W60LM and 1L of Castrol 5W50.

Though it could be purely coincidence that I didn't burn any oil again.
__________________
Instagram: @Namsaur
'09 ///M3 Sedan - Jerez Black/Fox Red Ext.
'09 335i Coupe - Alpine White/Black - SOLD
Appreciate 1
      03-28-2019, 08:29 AM   #36
kyrix1st
Major
kyrix1st's Avatar
Japan
877
Rep
1,115
Posts

Drives: E36 M3 Euro, E36/7, E92 M3
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Kyoto

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2004 BMW Z4  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Z K View Post
I think Redline 5w50 should be fine. Redline tends to be a thicker oil than the rating. The Redline 10w60 is way too thick. I ran it once and it was like a gel at room temperature. I drained it after a few thousand miles and went back to OEM 10w60.
Try 7:2 mix of 10w60 and 0w40 next time. Mine burned very little oil after 3 track days, runs like a champ.

Currently using Castrol 10w60 only because I am a bit concerned about oxidation of ester oils for I don't drive that often nowadays.
__________________
Pass me if you can.
Appreciate 0
      03-29-2019, 08:03 AM   #37
jeff@autocouture
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
jeff@autocouture's Avatar
736
Rep
13,737
Posts


Drives: 88 528e,02 Audi S6 avant
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: New Jersey

iTrader: (0)

When I had my e90 m3 I also ran Redline 5w50. While I am not a scientist, It warmed up much quicker for me in the winter months and never ran too hot in the summer.
Appreciate 1
      04-08-2019, 04:23 PM   #38
Shredicus
Major
Shredicus's Avatar
United_States
453
Rep
1,075
Posts

Drives: 09 SSII E92 M3
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Spokane, WA

iTrader: (12)

I quite like Amsoil 5w50. On my second fill now and plan to keep running it. Here is my last UOA on Amsoil. Certainly seems to get up to temp quickly and keeps engine noise at highway speeds minimal. Oh yeah and probably the best part is even over this longer interval I burned less than half quart!
Attached Images
 
Appreciate 1
      04-08-2019, 07:47 PM   #39
ItsGary
Colonel
ItsGary's Avatar
Canada
1391
Rep
2,327
Posts

Drives: 2009 E90 M3
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Vancouver

iTrader: (0)

installed this thermostat on my friends S85. He says hes getting better fuel economy already lol.
__________________
Instagram: @Namsaur
'09 ///M3 Sedan - Jerez Black/Fox Red Ext.
'09 335i Coupe - Alpine White/Black - SOLD
Appreciate 0
      04-10-2019, 02:53 AM   #40
kyrix1st
Major
kyrix1st's Avatar
Japan
877
Rep
1,115
Posts

Drives: E36 M3 Euro, E36/7, E92 M3
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Kyoto

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2004 BMW Z4  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsGary View Post
installed this thermostat on my friends S85. He says hes getting better fuel economy already lol.
Which thermostat?
__________________
Pass me if you can.
Appreciate 0
      04-10-2019, 06:14 AM   #41
pbonsalb
Major General
2699
Rep
7,205
Posts

Drives: 08 E90 M3, 99 E36 M3 Turbo
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Concord, NH

iTrader: (3)

There is another thread discussing Troy Jeupís recommendation for a hotter thermostat.
Appreciate 1
ItsGary1391.00

      04-21-2019, 04:16 PM   #42
oolas3
Captain
367
Rep
854
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: May 2015
Location: United States

iTrader: (0)

I’ve been using Mobil 5w50 FS and would recommend.
Appreciate 1
M3Post441.50

      04-24-2019, 06:08 AM   #43
VictorH
Major
327
Rep
1,217
Posts

Drives: '09 M3
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: SC

iTrader: (4)

The pictures in the original post clearly demonstrate that dipstick wear is significantly reduced by running RedLine oil. I'm really happy when I can get more than 100K miles out of my dipsticks before changing them out.
Appreciate 0
      07-15-2019, 01:13 AM   #44
E.Usaf
Private First Class
E.Usaf's Avatar
32
Rep
113
Posts

Drives: E90 M3
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Oahu

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Slight highjacking for an oil recommendation..

I was set on LM 10w-60 until recently. From the Blackstone thread it looks like most are running TWS 10w-60, but now this RL 5w-50 seems legit? I'm not too oil savvy, but shouldn't I be looking for LL-01? I need an adult.

Background info, I just bought an '08 M3 with 54k miles. Rod bearings supposedly done. No prior analysis, so I'm going to start a baseline with this. Thanks in advance.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:30 PM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST