M3 + X5???

KwlAznKid · 06-15-2018, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BOOF-M3

I was looking into an X5M today. But it turns out that it has been in three accidents (what?) third oneL made the suv a "Total Loss" on the Carfax. There have been zero, yes that is zero miles put on the vehicle since the total loss in 2015. And to add to the misery the "M" next to the "X5" on the rear bumper is faux. Although he has it listed as an X5M it is really an X5. When I asked the seller why does he state it is an X5M he said "it's the Big Daddy 4.4". Probably my fault for not knowing that.

LMFAO
big daddy 4.4

BOOF-M3 · 06-15-2018, 07:10 PM

Yea so this guy insists it's an X5M. He bought it at auction recently. Prior owner must have put the X5M emblem on there. Poor guy.

askjeeves · 06-15-2018, 07:53 PM

I bought an e70 x5m about a year ago that joined my m3, and to tow the my 330 to the track. It's very impressive what the x5m is capable of, but it's definitely not the same as driving the m3. Aside from bad gas mileage, it is nice as a daily. Highlight of the X has been passing people around Sebring. Some vette drivers probably weren't so happy after that weekend!

jiggz · 06-15-2018, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BOOF-M3

Yea so this guy insists it's an X5M. He bought it at auction recently. Prior owner must have put the X5M emblem on there. Poor guy.

If nothing else, at least he has it priced down in 50i territory, and not at X5M pricing.

Spun Crankhub · 06-16-2018, 01:24 AM

I have an 05 E53 4.4 that I daily, and it is trash. Gas mileage when new was 13mpg, and now hovers around 10. POS. I can drive the fck out of my M3 and still get better mileage.

dmk08 · 06-16-2018, 05:30 AM

Nope not even really interested in non-M BMWs(or M SUV). Love my 4Runner though.

BOOF-M3 · 06-16-2018, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jiggz

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Originally Posted by BOOF-M3

Yea so this guy insists it's an X5M. He bought it at auction recently. Prior owner must have put the X5M emblem on there. Poor guy.

If nothing else, at least he has it priced down in 50i territory, and not at X5M pricing.

Considering three accidents and the last one in 2015 having "totaled" it. It sat for three years without any miles being out on it. it is probably still high in price, my guess.

SYT_Shadow · 06-16-2018, 07:57 AM

I have an X5 35i Sport, 2012, to complement my two E9X M3s

I bought it with 30k miles. Since then:
-Retrofitted heated steering wheel with paddles
-jb4 piggyback, soon to be replaced for the ess flash tune
-b12 suspension

I have the 20" wheels with Continental ECS tires
I have a set of 19" with winter tires

The car has some nice things like the ventilated massaging seats, premium audio, etc so it's pretty nice to travel in.

That said, it is not reliable. I had to replace the water pump, then the oil block seal, then it started lurching when turning and I replaced the transfer fluid and re-learned the clutch point.

I keep it because I need something to carry 8 tires in and both M3s cannot see salt, so this is what I drive most of the time. I'll probably buy another M3 so I can use that in winter instead of the X5.

The X5 doesn't change my standard opinion that any mile not driven in an M3 is a mile wasted.

By the way, avoid the 50i like the plague. You can get the X5M but **not** the regular 50i badged car (N63 engine code)

deansbimmer · 06-16-2018, 08:58 AM

X5M and E93 M3 here... Hard combination to beat. I keep up with preventative maintenance and have not had any issues with the cars.

tooloud10 · 06-17-2018, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SYT_Shadow

By the way, avoid the 50i like the plague. You can get the X5M but **not** the regular 50i badged car (N63 engine code)

Ha, no joke there. My favorite info about the N63 V8 is that BMW recommends you replace the battery at every oil change, basically to cover up the high battery drain issues.

BPMSport · 06-17-2018, 11:26 PM

Just picked this up as the new daily in Colorado and making my way back to LA. Already did transmission and engine software and hit 165 mph at nearly 8000ft elevation. I absolutely love this car. It's a real blast. The E70 X5 more sporty feeling and more truck like, while the newer F15 is a softer more luxurious SAV.

The previous owner had valve stem seals, transfer case, and a whole ton of other repairs done. The N63 isn't a bad engine, but it does have its issues. It would definitely be advisable to have one under warranty. There was a customer care package which included checking the timing chain and replacing a bunch of components. Totaling the repair receipts on the one I purchased exceeds 20K. Putting in the research on a perspective car (analyzing previous history, etc) will reward you in the end.

Funny thing is that a new N63 can be purchased for around 4k these days. Many N63 engines with oil consumption and other issues will receive warranty replacements in a few months from BMW. It's not a bad move given this.

I have a big mod list planned for it. Nothing too crazy but shooting for 520 crank and 600ft/lbs torque. The X5 is a great second car. The N55 models will be a lot slower but more reliable, and the X5D is one of my favorites, although there are a few things that will come up covered after warranty expiration (SCR Tank, NOx sensors).

SohoE93 · 06-17-2018, 11:29 PM

I've got a 2012 X5 35i, and a 2011 M3. N55 is ok, but wish I had an Rx350 as a daily vs the X5 for ultimate reliability and cheap repair costs. Before owning the M3, it was fun having a sporty SUV as a daily...I could care less about having a sporty daily now.

jiggz · 06-18-2018, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SYT_Shadow

By the way, avoid the 50i like the plague. You can get the X5M but **not** the regular 50i badged car (N63 engine code)

Have had a great experience with my E70 50i (N63). A lot of stuff has been replaced, but all covered by BMW for free. Car never drove any different after BMW replaced all the stuff they wanted to replace

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Originally Posted by tooloud10

Ha, no joke there. My favorite info about the N63 V8 is that BMW recommends you replace the battery at every oil change, basically to cover up the high battery drain issues.

Fake news!

BMW does not recommend a new battery at every oil change.

I've had the N63 50i for 4 years now, battery replaced only once under the N63 campaign. Had a ton of oil changes...

tooloud10 · 06-18-2018, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jiggz

Fake news!

BMW does not recommend a new battery at every oil change.

I've had the N63 50i for 4 years now, battery replaced only once under the N63 campaign. Had a ton of oil changes...

Nah, they're just offering to replace N63 batteries every 12 months out of the goodness of their heart. Obviously you're familiar with the service campaign in question here. FWIW, you might as well have gotten your free annual battery replacement--the service bulletin specifically instructs the tech to not perform an energy diagnosis for the battery if it's been more than 12 months since last replacement.

BMW is the king of covering up problems by quietly changing the rules but admitting no fault.

admranger · 06-21-2018, 08:38 PM

E90M3 and F15 X5 40e.

In Vegas I had an E46M3 and E53 X5 4.4 in Imola, and the Melbourne E90M3. Unfortunately, F15 didn't come in red...<sigh>

2pntrsrv · 06-22-2018, 03:57 PM

YEP... wife has a '15 X5 as a daily and i have the M3. Amazingly, both fit in the garage (barely)

digitalpersona · 06-23-2018, 10:54 AM

'18 f15 x5 35i xdrive, mineral white/mocha nappa + 3rd row, no mods. fine the way it is

'12 e93 m3 black/black, eisenman race, test pipes, evolve stage 2 tune, eibach prokit springs

love both cars. keeping the m3 forever.
x5 is the wife's daily, no problems so far.

94jedi · 07-22-2018, 05:49 PM

it's been just over a month now with the X5 added to the stable and we love it. already had an oil leak from the oil cooler lol but had that fixed a couple of weeks ago. Aside from that the car is awesome. we've kept our Prius as a daily driver for me so that the M3 can go back to garage Queen status.

Rainer M · 07-23-2018, 07:10 AM

We just added a F15 35D that replaces a E53 30i.
The E53 was a 2006 with 220.000 miles on it.
The old X5 was not bad and over the years I only replaced the water pump and the expansion tank.
The car started to leak from the valve cover and the power steering lines.
The heating fan went out in about at abou 170k.
Otherwise a great ride.
For the new one we went with the diesel and I have to say it is a blast to drive.
Feels like a freight train. Plenty of power, it just moves. This coupled with a great gas (diesel) mileage makes for a great feeling.
Sticker price was 67 and we got 12.5k off since it was on the lot. We couldn't order a new car.

All in I plan to keep my E93 M for as long as I can keep it up. I don't plan on letting it go until I can't walk anymore. Lol. Hopefully another 30 years from now.
The plan on the X5 is to run it into the ground. My wife drives about 20k a year and we hope to get at least 300 k out of it. Shouldn't be a problem.

06-15-2018, 07:10 PM	#24
BOOF-M3 Brigadier General 4452 Rep 4,014 Posts Drives: 2011 M3 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Pasadena Florida iTrader: (1)	Yea so this guy insists it's an X5M. He bought it at auction recently. Prior owner must have put the X5M emblem on there. Poor guy.
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06-15-2018, 07:53 PM	#25
askjeeves Captain 147 Rep 957 Posts Drives: e92 m3/spece30 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Miami, FL iTrader: (1)	I bought an e70 x5m about a year ago that joined my m3, and to tow the my 330 to the track. It's very impressive what the x5m is capable of, but it's definitely not the same as driving the m3. Aside from bad gas mileage, it is nice as a daily. Highlight of the X has been passing people around Sebring. Some vette drivers probably weren't so happy after that weekend! __________________ 2011 e92 ///m3 zcp - jzb/fr ED 6/29/10
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Spun Crankhub Major General 964 Rep 5,032 Posts Drives: 15 F82 SOLD Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: San Jose, CA iTrader: (63)	I have an 05 E53 4.4 that I daily, and it is trash. Gas mileage when new was 13mpg, and now hovers around 10. POS. I can drive the fck out of my M3 and still get better mileage.
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06-16-2018, 05:30 AM	#28
dmk08 Gone Fishin’ 7318 Rep 12,125 Posts Drives: Walks Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Atlanta iTrader: (19)	Nope not even really interested in non-M BMWs(or M SUV). Love my 4Runner though.
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06-16-2018, 07:57 AM	#30
SYT_Shadow ///M Powered for Life 11480 Rep 10,328 Posts Drives: E90M/E92M/M4GTS/M4GT4/X5M Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Greenwich, CT iTrader: (2)	I have an X5 35i Sport, 2012, to complement my two E9X M3s I bought it with 30k miles. Since then: -Retrofitted heated steering wheel with paddles -jb4 piggyback, soon to be replaced for the ess flash tune -b12 suspension I have the 20" wheels with Continental ECS tires I have a set of 19" with winter tires The car has some nice things like the ventilated massaging seats, premium audio, etc so it's pretty nice to travel in. That said, it is not reliable. I had to replace the water pump, then the oil block seal, then it started lurching when turning and I replaced the transfer fluid and re-learned the clutch point. I keep it because I need something to carry 8 tires in and both M3s cannot see salt, so this is what I drive most of the time. I'll probably buy another M3 so I can use that in winter instead of the X5. The X5 doesn't change my standard opinion that any mile not driven in an M3 is a mile wasted. By the way, avoid the 50i like the plague. You can get the X5M but not the regular 50i badged car (N63 engine code) __________________ DIY: S65 Rod Bearings E9X PFC Z54 BBK on F8X BK harness bar + seats: fit 6 tires in an M3 do88 Cooling Goodies GTS Twins: GTMore project
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06-16-2018, 08:58 AM	#31
deansbimmer BimmerPost Supporting Vendor 3749 Rep 2,907 Posts Drives: 2011 E93 M3 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: DFW, Texas iTrader: (17) Garage List 1988 BMW M3 [0.00] 2013 BMW M3 [0.00] 2011 X5M [0.00] 2011 BMW M3 [0.00]	X5M and E93 M3 here... Hard combination to beat. I keep up with preventative maintenance and have not had any issues with the cars.
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06-17-2018, 11:26 PM	#33
BPMSport BimmerPost Supporting Vendor 3387 Rep 7,541 Posts Drives: Harrop M3 / F10 M5 / F82 M4 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SoCal iTrader: (9) Garage List 2000 BMW M5 [0.00] 1990 BMW 735i Turbo [0.00] 2008 BMW M3 [7.50] 2015 BMW M3 [0.00] 2015 BMW M5 [0.00]	Just picked this up as the new daily in Colorado and making my way back to LA. Already did transmission and engine software and hit 165 mph at nearly 8000ft elevation. I absolutely love this car. It's a real blast. The E70 X5 more sporty feeling and more truck like, while the newer F15 is a softer more luxurious SAV. The previous owner had valve stem seals, transfer case, and a whole ton of other repairs done. The N63 isn't a bad engine, but it does have its issues. It would definitely be advisable to have one under warranty. There was a customer care package which included checking the timing chain and replacing a bunch of components. Totaling the repair receipts on the one I purchased exceeds 20K. Putting in the research on a perspective car (analyzing previous history, etc) will reward you in the end. Funny thing is that a new N63 can be purchased for around 4k these days. Many N63 engines with oil consumption and other issues will receive warranty replacements in a few months from BMW. It's not a bad move given this. I have a big mod list planned for it. Nothing too crazy but shooting for 520 crank and 600ft/lbs torque. The X5 is a great second car. The N55 models will be a lot slower but more reliable, and the X5D is one of my favorites, although there are a few things that will come up covered after warranty expiration (SCR Tank, NOx sensors). Attached Images __________________ -----\| Like us on Facebook \| Instagram \|\| Tuning Information \| Remote Coding \|----- ----Visit us at www.BPMSport.com - Emotion. Driven. \| Toll Free: (888) 557-5133----
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06-17-2018, 11:29 PM	#34
SohoE93 #topdownS65 67 Rep 133 Posts Drives: 2011 E93 M3 Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Tampa FL iTrader: (0)	I've got a 2012 X5 35i, and a 2011 M3. N55 is ok, but wish I had an Rx350 as a daily vs the X5 for ultimate reliability and cheap repair costs. Before owning the M3, it was fun having a sporty SUV as a daily...I could care less about having a sporty daily now. Last edited by SohoE93; 06-17-2018 at 11:37 PM..
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06-21-2018, 08:38 PM	#37
admranger Retired Curmudgeon 2985 Rep 4,047 Posts Drives: ‘19 X3M40i, ‘18 m550i Join Date: May 2011 Location: Las Vegas, NV iTrader: (1)	E90M3 and F15 X5 40e. In Vegas I had an E46M3 and E53 X5 4.4 in Imola, and the Melbourne E90M3. Unfortunately, F15 didn't come in red...<sigh> __________________ '19 X3 M40 Carbon Black/Oyster, '23 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Summit, Past BMWs: '18 M550i, '18 330 GT, '16 X5 40e, '11 E90M3, '06 X5 4.4, '03 330i ZHP, '02 M3, '97 Z3 2.8, '95 M3 (2x), '94 530i (manual), '92 525i (manual), '88 M3, '87 325iS
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2pntrsrv 2pntsrsrv 47 Rep 36 Posts Drives: 2012 E93 M3 DCT Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: ATHENS, GA iTrader: (0)	YEP... wife has a '15 X5 as a daily and i have the M3. Amazingly, both fit in the garage (barely) __________________ In the Garage: 2012 BMW M3 'VERT 2015 BMW X5
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06-23-2018, 10:54 AM	#39
digitalpersona First Lieutenant 89 Rep 364 Posts Drives: 2012 E93 M3 Blk/Blk Join Date: May 2015 Location: Long Island, NY iTrader: (0)	'18 f15 x5 35i xdrive, mineral white/mocha nappa + 3rd row, no mods. fine the way it is '12 e93 m3 black/black, eisenman race, test pipes, evolve stage 2 tune, eibach prokit springs love both cars. keeping the m3 forever. x5 is the wife's daily, no problems so far. Attached Images
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07-22-2018, 05:49 PM	#40
94jedi Major 829 Rep 1,254 Posts Drives: 2009 e92 M3 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	it's been just over a month now with the X5 added to the stable and we love it. already had an oil leak from the oil cooler lol but had that fixed a couple of weeks ago. Aside from that the car is awesome. we've kept our Prius as a daily driver for me so that the M3 can go back to garage Queen status. Attached Images __________________ 2009 E92 M3 build thread: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1754875 Follow me on IG - www.instagram.com/the_driven_enthusiast
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07-23-2018, 07:10 AM	#41
Rainer M Private First Class 51 Rep 154 Posts Drives: E93 M3, 2018 X5 35D Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Santa Rosa, CA iTrader: (0)	We just added a F15 35D that replaces a E53 30i. The E53 was a 2006 with 220.000 miles on it. The old X5 was not bad and over the years I only replaced the water pump and the expansion tank. The car started to leak from the valve cover and the power steering lines. The heating fan went out in about at abou 170k. Otherwise a great ride. For the new one we went with the diesel and I have to say it is a blast to drive. Feels like a freight train. Plenty of power, it just moves. This coupled with a great gas (diesel) mileage makes for a great feeling. Sticker price was 67 and we got 12.5k off since it was on the lot. We couldn't order a new car. All in I plan to keep my E93 M for as long as I can keep it up. I don't plan on letting it go until I can't walk anymore. Lol. Hopefully another 30 years from now. The plan on the X5 is to run it into the ground. My wife drives about 20k a year and we hope to get at least 300 k out of it. Shouldn't be a problem.
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