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      03-05-2019, 07:58 AM   #67
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As far as I'm concerned PCA/BMACCA also prohibit timing devices. I know my students can't have one at all.
That doesn't change the fact that BMW markets the M timing app to be used with their M cars on track. Pretty sure that alone would help win a case against BMW for trying to deny warranty because a timing device was used at an HPDE.

""The BMW M Laptimer and GoPro integrations have both proven to be incredibly popular with driving enthusiasts," said Christian Schmid, senior development engineer at the BMW Group Technology Office USA, in a release. "From the time that we launched the first in-car integration for a GoPro camera, bringing that integration together with the BMW M Laptimer seemed like the natural way to really enhance the track driving experience. This allows us to provide BMW drivers the ability to safely capture and share their track experience."
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I don't know why everyone is afraid to own a car without a warranty. Just put some money aside for maintenance and keep driving it. Also, I'm confused how a new M2 will lower your monthly costs by $300.
Coming from someone that appears to have sold their out of warranty BMW for a warrantied car....


Let them eat cake!!!
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      03-14-2019, 10:17 AM   #69
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Coming from someone that appears to have sold their out of warranty BMW for a warrantied car....


Let them eat cake!!!
Exactly, but old BMW cars are much more reliable than now.
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      03-14-2019, 04:49 PM   #70
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I have driven multiple M2's and I am not sure why you guys are disappointed. It is different , but I would not use disappointed as a word to describe it. It is a great car in every aspect. I would not replace it with my E92 M3, but I sure would add it to the stable. The M2 has so much more potential with minor modifications. And the N55 sounds great.
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      03-17-2019, 09:31 AM   #71
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I have driven multiple M2's and I am not sure why you guys are disappointed. It is different , but I would not use disappointed as a word to describe it. It is a great car in every aspect. I would not replace it with my E92 M3, but I sure would add it to the stable. The M2 has so much more potential with minor modifications. And the N55 sounds great.
100% agree. It drives great, and even though the N55 isn't as guttural as the S65, it still sounds pretty damn good.

I'm still getting adjusted to the stubbier body style, but even that's growing on me.

A highly capable chassis, and an engine prepped for mods, I think it has lots of potential.

I think it's one of the best M cars produced in the last 10 years....especially since it's so tossable (almost Cayman tossable, ALMOST....but that's high praise).
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      03-17-2019, 11:12 AM   #72
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To be honest the N55 M2 felt slower than my E36 M3 euro being around 200kg heavier and not much power difference (321 vs 370ps). I guess M2 competition is a much better buy now with the S55 engine.
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To be honest the N55 M2 felt slower than my E36 M3 euro being around 200kg heavier and not much power difference (321 vs 370ps). I guess M2 competition is a much better buy now with the S55 engine.
Speaking abot M2 comp pack, did they work on the noise at all or same M4 fart?
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      03-18-2019, 04:09 PM   #74
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Speaking abot M2 comp pack, did they work on the noise at all or same M4 fart?
I drove the M2 Competition and was suitably impressed. BMW have listened to their customers and it sounds quite good. Here's my "Review in a Few"...

https://drivetribe.com/p/m2-competit...QLqMwHVHlt8Ekw
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      03-18-2019, 04:49 PM   #75
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I drove the M2 Competition and was suitably impressed. BMW have listened to their customers and it sounds quite good. Here's my "Review in a Few"...

https://drivetribe.com/p/m2-competit...QLqMwHVHlt8Ekw
Nice write up - cheers!
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      03-19-2019, 11:44 AM   #76
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Speaking abot M2 comp pack, did they work on the noise at all or same M4 fart?
I think the official name is "M2 Competition" rather than "M2 Comp pack" since it is quite a different car from the original N55 one.

With OPF standard since 2018, M2 comp sounds a lot more refined but I personally like the aggressive "fart" of M4s. M2 just sounds muffled to me. Maybe I am too JDM in taste..
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      03-22-2019, 09:57 AM   #77
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BMW doesn’t. I was denied warranty because they found videos of my car at hpde’s. The ONLY reason I was able to fight and win was because I bought like 6 new bmw’s in the past 8 years (at the time it happened) and had just bought a 7th when my m3 motor failed. Bmw just wants to maximize profits like most of the other car companies. They don’t care about your passion for Motorsports or bmws. If you have a good history of buying new bmws, they might help you in the end. You need to be a valuable customer. That’s all they care about.

Porsche is the only company I know of that truly warranties tracked cars without issues.
Just anecdotal but my experience suggests the opposite--BMW replaced a failed engine in my wife's out of warranty X3 but Porsche all but laughed in my face about replacing a failed engine in my barely out of warranty 911 before handing me a bill.

Not track related, but I actually trust BMW way more than Porsche. I didn't buy either car new or even from the dealers that replaced the engines.
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I owned multiple e92 m3 f80 m3 and an m2. apples and oranges.

m2 is a great DD w good torque around town and feels tossable. manual was great.

But lacks the emotion of the NA cars at higher revs. you only hear gushing wind as the turbo drowns out the motor. I had mpe and dinan.. so great daily but not really a weekend fun toy.
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      03-27-2019, 01:55 PM   #79
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I owned multiple e92 m3 f80 m3 and an m2. apples and oranges.

m2 is a great DD w good torque around town and feels tossable. manual was great.

But lacks the emotion of the NA cars at higher revs. you only hear gushing wind as the turbo drowns out the motor. I had mpe and dinan.. so great daily but not really a weekend fun toy.
Damage, that is one helluva list of past cars you have owned.

So, please tank your top 3, based on your own personal preference for speed, agility and comfort.
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The new M2 Competition has me thinking about finally letting go of my e92.
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      05-07-2019, 06:14 AM   #81
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The new M2 Competition has me thinking about finally letting go of my e92.
Is your E92 a daily or track car?
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      05-14-2019, 04:30 PM   #82
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Is your E92 a daily or track car?
Track / Mountain Roads car.
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      05-26-2019, 06:15 PM   #83
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I owned multiple e92 m3 f80 m3 and an m2. apples and oranges.

m2 is a great DD w good torque around town and feels tossable. manual was great.

But lacks the emotion of the NA cars at higher revs. you only hear gushing wind as the turbo drowns out the motor. I had mpe and dinan.. so great daily but not really a weekend fun toy.
Damage, that is one helluva list of past cars you have owned.

So, please tank your top 3, based on your own personal preference for speed, agility and comfort.
Kevin, good question.

out of 01 m3 manual, 05 zcp SMG, 08 m3 manual, 08 m6 SMG, 11 m3 zcp, 06 m5 SMG, 15 m3 manual, 17 m2 manual.

Top 3 are easy. 08 m3, 08 m6, and 05 m3 zcp.

from there it's harder. m6 w eisenmann race is just wicked. but overall m3 08 manual was splendid dd.

3. 05 m3 zcp. ripping that i6 was kick ass so high strung. if a track car then #1.

2. 08 m6. best motor of all time.

1. 08 m3 manual. something bad ass about a 4 door manual sedan with a race motor in it.

I only owned the f80 m3 for 4 months. numb cold no emotional connection. m2 for 2 months. good daily driver, and liked it better than the f80 m3 however not special enough.

is there life after e9x m? yes. I bought a 14 R8 V8 w Kline race exhaust. Exotic looks w NA race V8, sounds better than my M3 w MPE and Eisenmann race.

I'm still envious of you guys w S85 or S65 motors. thought to buy one but too similar to the R8 that fills my needs.

I have a 16 535 m sport for DD. but once the m2 falls to $30k i plan to pick one up for a daily.
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Kevin, good question.

out of 01 m3 manual, 05 zcp SMG, 08 m3 manual, 08 m6 SMG, 11 m3 zcp, 06 m5 SMG, 15 m3 manual, 17 m2 manual.

Top 3 are easy. 08 m3, 08 m6, and 05 m3 zcp.

from there it's harder. m6 w eisenmann race is just wicked. but overall m3 08 manual was splendid dd.

3. 05 m3 zcp. ripping that i6 was kick ass so high strung. if a track car then #1.

2. 08 m6. best motor of all time.

1. 08 m3 manual. something bad ass about a 4 door manual sedan with a race motor in it.

I only owned the f80 m3 for 4 months. numb cold no emotional connection. m2 for 2 months. good daily driver, and liked it better than the f80 m3 however not special enough.

is there life after e9x m? yes. I bought a 14 R8 V8 w Kline race exhaust. Exotic looks w NA race V8, sounds better than my M3 w MPE and Eisenmann race.

I'm still envious of you guys w S85 or S65 motors. thought to buy one but too similar to the R8 that fills my needs.

I have a 16 535 m sport for DD. but once the m2 falls to $30k i plan to pick one up for a daily.
Thanks, this is good insight for me.

I had an F82, lowered, full Active Auto exhaust, tuned...and it was beautiful (tanzanite blue with the white interior), and even had the CCBs. But after 6 months, sold it. I did track it 3 times, and loved it on the track, even though it could be handful with the traction control off.

But outside of the track, it just wasn't me. Loved the way it looked though, Ultimately I came to the realization that how the car sounded and "felt" as it wrapped around me was extremely important, especially since I tend to drive A LOT of miles, taking long trips and such.

Moved to a 2013 M3, no regrets. Actually, I wish I owned 2, and I likely will...the next one being an E90 or E92 manual, and supercharged.....my current one being a DCT E93 which I love.

If not another E9X, then maybe a Cayman/Boxster GTS with the old flat 6.

Or, if I keep saving, then an older GT3, or an older Audi R8.

It's slim pickins' though, now that I've been spoiled by the thrills (and comfort) of the E9X platform.
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BMW doesn’t. I was denied warranty because they found videos of my car at hpde’s. The ONLY reason I was able to fight and win was because I bought like 6 new bmw’s in the past 8 years (at the time it happened) and had just bought a 7th when my m3 motor failed. Bmw just wants to maximize profits like most of the other car companies. They don’t care about your passion for Motorsports or bmws. If you have a good history of buying new bmws, they might help you in the end. You need to be a valuable customer. That’s all they care about.

Porsche is the only company I know of that truly warranties tracked cars without issues.
That's a dealer problem then, not a BMW problem.

My dealer fixed several issues under warranty on M3, one of which was with the car when it still had numbers on it. They knew full well it was a tracked. Another friend has a brake service done under maintenance after cooking his X5M brakes at a track day. No questions asked.
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I tracked an M2 at the BMW Experience in Greenville, SC and it was so much fun on the track. It was rocking Continental ECS and they did not break grip under the most extreme punishment.
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The ///M2C is a bitchin' car, but I wouldn't trade my ///M4 for one. I would take an ///M2C over an E92 ///M3 though, and it would be a tough choice between an ///M2C and a clean ZCP E46 ///M3.
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